Ouch, party got busted tonight

DrumminBoy

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Had a party tonight at my house, around 50 people, and the cops showed up. I got a possession of alcohol by a minor charge and everyone else went free. On the citation it says that the charge took place at "5030 X Street" but my address, where I got busted, is "2050 X Street." I clearly told him that my address was 2050, and its correct at the top of the ticket where my personal information goes, and I signed the ticket saying that the information I gave him was true. Think I could fight the charge on the grounds that the place it says it took place doesnt exist, therefore I couldnt have been there at X time? Just wondering, I'll probably get flamed for this.
 

Crusty

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Heh, I had a party of 350+ people and when the cops showed only got a ticket for noise....mind you i'm 18 ;)
 

brxndxn

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You're gonna get flamed by a bunch of 'law-abiding' zealots who have never sipped alcohol under the age of 21, driven over the speed limit, or argued with any form of error in reasoning.

You could fight the charge saying you were not drinking the alcohol. The cops have the burden of prooving that you consumed alcohol. You can state that the current bottle in your hand was being given to a friend over the age of 21 and you were merely serving him. No matter how unlikely it is, they must proove beyond a reasonable doubt.
 

beer

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
You're gonna get flamed by a bunch of 'law-abiding' zealots who have never sipped alcohol under the age of 21, driven over the speed limit, or argued with any form of error in reasoning.

You could fight the charge saying you were not drinking the alcohol. The cops have the burden of prooving that you consumed alcohol. You can state that the current bottle in your hand was being given to a friend over the age of 21 and you were merely serving him. No matter how unlikely it is, they must proove beyond a reasonable doubt.

possession, not consumption ;)
 

Crusty

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He only got a possession tickey..not a comsumption ticket. IIRC in most states you can't "serve" alcohol(ie. be in possession) if you are under 21
 

FelixDeCat

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Im a law-abiding 'zealot' who has never sipped alcohol under the age of 21, driven over the speed limit, or argued with any form of error in reasoning - whatever the hell that means.

You are an idiot ha ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha-ha-haaaaa......
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
You're gonna get flamed by a bunch of 'law-abiding' zealots who have never sipped alcohol under the age of 21, driven over the speed limit, or argued with any form of error in reasoning.

You could fight the charge saying you were not drinking the alcohol. The cops have the burden of prooving that you consumed alcohol. You can state that the current bottle in your hand was being given to a friend over the age of 21 and you were merely serving him. No matter how unlikely it is, they must proove beyond a reasonable doubt.

Actually, he's a dumbass for 1) being caught and then 2) comes here and whines about it.
 

In Michigan, your body serves as a 'container.' So an MIP is the standard cite given, whether you're just holding a beer or actually have drank it.

As for the address thing, it's worth a shot, but don't try and pull a fast one on the judge. Just say, "Your Honor, the address written on the ticket is wrong. It's clearly posted on the house, and the officers asked me for it and I gave them my actual address, but the address where this MIP allegedly took place doesn't exist."

See what he or she says.
 

mflacy

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
You're gonna get flamed by a bunch of 'law-abiding' zealots who have never sipped alcohol under the age of 21, driven over the speed limit, or argued with any form of error in reasoning.

You could fight the charge saying you were not drinking the alcohol. The cops have the burden of prooving that you consumed alcohol. You can state that the current bottle in your hand was being given to a friend over the age of 21 and you were merely serving him. No matter how unlikely it is, they must proove beyond a reasonable doubt.

You must mean those crazy people who actually take responsibility for their actions. What a bunch of fvckers.
 

brigden

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Dec 22, 2002
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How is he an idiot? He had a party, something very likely to be interrupted by the police, and is simply asking for advice on avoiding paying the fine. I hope he does find away around it.
 

Colt45

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was the booze on your person or just in the house?

if its just in the house say it isn't yours.. right?
 

Originally posted by: Colt45
was the booze on your person or just in the house?

if its just in the house say it isn't yours.. right?
The (most senior and currently present) resident of the house usually holds responsibility for things that occur or are contained inside it.
 

EXman

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Judges love to let people off on techicalities but since you signed it I think you are stuck just pay what you deserve to pay. have some personal resposibility that is what is wrong with this country people like you ;)

I'm kidding but I'm not.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: MCrusty
Heh, I had a party of 350+ people and when the cops showed only got a ticket for noise....mind you i'm 18 ;)
want a cookie
 

Red Dawn

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If you feel it's worth your time and effort to fight it then go for it. The worse that can happen is that you end up paying the maximum fine that can be levied for the offense.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: MCrusty
Heh, I had a party of 350+ people and when the cops showed only got a ticket for noise....mind you i'm 18 ;)



Same thing happeneed to me ;)

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Mermaidman

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Isn't it true that in some states, if one of your guests is caught for DUI after your party, you are also legally responsible?

As for the OP, cut the cop some slack for getting the address wrong, OK? I'm sure he had a long day fighting crime, so transposing some numbers ain't no big deal.

;)
 

Ness

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
You're gonna get flamed by a bunch of 'law-abiding' zealots who have never sipped alcohol under the age of 21, driven over the speed limit, or argued with any form of error in reasoning.

You could fight the charge saying you were not drinking the alcohol. The cops have the burden of prooving that you consumed alcohol. You can state that the current bottle in your hand was being given to a friend over the age of 21 and you were merely serving him. No matter how unlikely it is, they must proove beyond a reasonable doubt.


He needs to just pay the ticket. Yes, I have broken rules before, and when I get caught, I face the consequences of my actions. On a subject like alcohol, a judge probably isn't very likely to just "let it slide" over some small technicality. I mean, think about it for a second.. "Yea, you're right, this isn't the right address. They must have broken up the wrong party or a party at another house and someone must have forged your signature, huh?"

Stop whining. You did it, you didn't get away with it, and now you pay for it.
 

kami333

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Dec 12, 2001
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Be happy you got off with just possesion.

Is it just a fine? If it is it might be easier just to pay it off.

I usually don't drink whenever I have a party at my house. Too busy keeping people from trashing my place, plus dealing with cops when they do show up is easier when you are sober. That and driving people who drank too much home since my house is about 10min walking distance from the dorms.
 

KarenMarie

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Sep 20, 2003
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If you try to fight it on a technicality, you will piss off the judge (or whomever) and get no sympathy or leniency whatsoever.

Own it, pay it and move on.
:)
 

geno

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Why did you sign the ticket if you knew it had a false address on there?