Osama Bin Laden is Dead. President to make a speech soon.

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PottedMeat

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What funding do you think we give them, and how is it spent? What actions would you specifically want us to take, and how would they help US interests?

aren't we responsible for securing their nukes ( some article i read a long time ago, can't find it )
 

fskimospy

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aren't we responsible for securing their nukes ( some article i read a long time ago, can't find it )

Yes, reports say that we provide them aid to secure their nuclear weapons against falling into the hands of terrorists. It's a secret program so it's not a sure thing though.

Apparently our good friends on this board would like us to stop helping Pakistan secure its nuclear weapons against terrorists if that's what we are in fact doing however.
 

fskimospy

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No, liberals were against anything relating to the war, anything relating to an activity where somebody might get hurt, and anything in which they could find a way to lambaste the previous administration. Now that those same things are being used by Obama, the results are to be lauded, and the means to be ignored.

You're either willfully ignorant, or purposefully stupid. Either way, facts are facts, and you ain't got them.

You know what the difference is? I can say that I am glad the president authorized our soldiers to ignore the sovereignty of Pakistan, to enter and assassinate Bin Laden with a bullet through the brain. No arrest, no Miranda rights, no trial in NYC. My principals allow me to say that. The left cannot say that without ignoring every principal they have claimed to have for the last 10 years.

I'm going to take this time to note that you were unable to come up with even a single specific. When I called you on your delusional ravings, you just responded with more of them.

You can't really argue with someone that's this disconnected from reality.
 

techs

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zinfamous

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Zer0 said the op was today, so they wouldn't have DNA confirmation yet.

it can be done in about 18 hours--purification can take as little as 30 minutes-3 hours. need to cut the bands based on known bin Laden markers. that takes about 3-4 hours, iirc (been a while since I did that stuff), then PCR takes no more than 3 hours for their needs. then run on a gel to separate bands.

boom

of course, nowadays they should be able to do some Q-PCR and have everything in about 3-4 hours.
 

bfdd

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I did not ask how much you THOUGHT we should give them, I asked if people here knew how much we DO give them and how it is spent.

It doesn't really fucking matter. They should get zero dollars and if they want dollars they can grovel at our feet for it. Pakistan has been nothing but our enemy for years and this just stacks it up against them higher.
 

fskimospy

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It doesn't really fucking matter. They should get zero dollars and if they want dollars they can grovel at our feet for it. Pakistan has been nothing but our enemy for years and this just stacks it up against them higher.

That's just bad US policy and I'm glad no one will ever follow it.
 

PeshakJang

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You can't really argue with someone that's this disconnected from reality.

You've proven that quite aptly in your complete denial of 10 years of sentiment.

If you are going to say with a straight face, that the unilateral action of invading a foreign country, and assassinating a man without trial or arrest, based on information that wouldn't have been obtained but for the existence of Guantanamo, doesn't fly in the face of every principal put forth by the left over the last 10 years, then you're a clueless dupe.

Good for you though, again, I'm glad you can so quickly change your mind about the ends justifying the means.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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You've proven that quite aptly in your complete denial of 10 years of sentiment.

If you are going to say with a straight face, that the unilateral action of invading a foreign country, and assassinating a man without trial or arrest, based on information that wouldn't have been obtained but for the existence of Guantanamo, doesn't fly in the face of every principal put forth by the left over the last 10 years, then you're a clueless dupe.

Good for you though, again, I'm glad you can so quickly change your mind about the ends justifying the means.

Please stop misspelling the word principle.
 

werepossum

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wow. exactly why Assange needs to be fucked by a goat.

This is exactly why this intel is kept under wraps.
:D Well said.

..says the guy that thinks foreign aid to North Korea is a good idea.
Eskimospy is a true progressive believer. Since the USA is the greatest world evil, it follows that we should send wealth to every other country, no matter how evil or twisted, for whatever reason. It's only logical.
 

zinfamous

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NSFW Photo at the top. Supposedly Osama after the fire fighter, the photo that was confirmed to be him by CIA and others

http://www.indiablooms.com/NewsDetailsPage/newsDetails020511a1.php


edit: NSFL http://web.naharnet.com/data/tempimages/big-EFAC99473CD4CC0FC2257884001D94F7.jpg

the photo, enlarged.

god damn, wtf do you people keep posting the fake photo?

I mentioned yesterday that I was certain I had seen the same photo a few years earlier when one of the Osama Dead" hoaxes was going around.
 

bfdd

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That's just bad US policy and I'm glad no one will ever follow it.

Oh my bad. You're right paying them to lie and drag on a search that has cost us tons of resources and people is much better way of running things.
 

fskimospy

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You've proven that quite aptly in your complete denial of 10 years of sentiment.

If you are going to say with a straight face, that the unilateral action of invading a foreign country, and assassinating a man without trial or arrest, based on information that wouldn't have been obtained but for the existence of Guantanamo, doesn't fly in the face of every principal put forth by the left over the last 10 years, then you're a clueless dupe.

Good for you though, again, I'm glad you can so quickly change your mind about the ends justifying the means.

The only way I've changed my mind would be for you to invent wrong opinions for me to hold that you can then argue against. It's sort of your MO though, because you can't compete any other way.

I think it's pretty clear at this point that you've had ample opportunity to provide specifics, but you can't. You can only argue against a childish cartoon.
 

fskimospy

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..says the guy that thinks foreign aid to North Korea is a good idea.

Yeah, just me and every US administration for the last two decades.

I'm sure you're right though, you're pretty knowledgeable about these things.
 

fskimospy

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Eskimospy is a true progressive believer. Since the USA is the greatest world evil, it follows that we should send wealth to every other country, no matter how evil or twisted, for whatever reason. It's only logical.

Do you actually believe this?
 

bfdd

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Yeah, just me and every US administration for the last two decades.

I'm sure you're right though, you're pretty knowledgeable about these things.

Yea because everyoneknows they were right. It's not like we aren't experiencing any ill due to previous idiots running this country. Honestly if that's you're argument just sit this one out.
 

Zebo

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Sad, but true. The guy could be George Washington, Albert Einstein, and Jesus Christ all rolled up into one and never get reelected unless the economy picks up. Even producing a miracle and balancing the budget probably won't help.

As much as a debbie downer I am the economy is picking up tho. I don't know how and it seems like a miracle but most positive matrices are up

Obama will win in a landslide IMO.
 
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HybridSquirrel

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No, liberals were against anything relating to the war, anything relating to an activity where somebody might get hurt, and anything in which they could find a way to lambaste the previous administration. Now that those same things are being used by Obama, the results are to be lauded, and the means to be ignored.

You're either willfully ignorant, or purposefully stupid. Either way, facts are facts, and you ain't got them.

You know what the difference is? I can say that I am glad the president authorized our soldiers to ignore the sovereignty of Pakistan, to enter and assassinate Bin Laden with a bullet through the brain. No arrest, no Miranda rights, no trial in NYC. My principals allow me to say that. The left cannot say that without ignoring every principal they have claimed to have for the last 10 years.

Generalizing. Not all liberals are against war. Just like not all conservatives are against universal single payer health care. Not all liberals are against guns, just like not all conservatives are gun toting bible lovers.
 

fskimospy

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Nah, just tweaking your nose. I'm sure you have valid, well-reasoned arguments why each individual nation is entitled to dollars from Uncle Sam.

Do you actually believe that I think other nations are entitled to money from America?