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O'Reilly: "I want [a public option]".

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Syringer

Lifer
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...ealth-insurance-option

O?REILLY: But you know, I want that, Ms. Owcharenko. I want that. I want, not for personally for me, but for working Americans, to have a option, that if they don?t like their health insurance, if it?s too expensive, they can?t afford it, if the government can cobble together a cheaper insurance policy that gives the same benefits, I see that as a plus for the folks.
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Wow, ol' Bill making sense here and is favor of the evil Obambacare plan? Has hell frozen over yet?
 
Originally posted by: OCguy
Of course O'Reilly will now be held up as a shining example of intellect by the Left.
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Which, it just so happens, is significantly more often than O'Reilly is right.
 
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: OCguy
Of course O'Reilly will now be held up as a shining example of intellect by the Left.
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Do people still acknowledge OCguy?
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Arent you that spider guy from Off Topic?


Wait, arent you doing exactly what I said? Using someone who you would normally disagree with (Oreilly) as proof that your opinion on healthcare is correct?
 
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: OCguy
Of course O'Reilly will now be held up as a shining example of intellect by the Left.
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Do people still acknowledge OCguy?
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Spider?

O'Reilly tries too hard by being a centrist blowhard, so he pisses off both the left and right. Ask any true conservative, most think he's a spiderbag.
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.

Fern
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No, O'Reilly is conservative all the way down the line and in no universe does he support gay marriage. He's just not batshit crazy like Beck or Hannity.
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.

Fern
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Let's not fool ourselves here. O'Reilly is EXTREMELY right wing. What he is not however, is some make believe right wing caricature like Sean Hannity. I find it extremely unlikely that Sean Hannity believes what he says, but I am almost certain that Bill O'Reilly does. So, when he comes out in support of a public option, or gay marriage, or whatever, he does it because he's a human being that doesn't have views that fit perfectly into a Republican/Democrat box (unlike Hannity).

Still, despite the fact that he has some viewpoints that are associated with the left, the vast, vast majority of his opinions are heavily conservative. I also think that quite a bit of the dislike for him is his tendancy to scream and shout down people he disagrees with, and the fact that he's an egomaniac. Not exactly super-attractive attributes.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.

Fern
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Let's not fool ourselves here. O'Reilly is EXTREMELY right wing. What he is not however, is some make believe right wing caricature like Sean Hannity. I find it extremely unlikely that Sean Hannity believes what he says, but I am almost certain that Bill O'Reilly does. So, when he comes out in support of a public option, or gay marriage, or whatever, he does it because he's a human being that doesn't have views that fit perfectly into a Republican/Democrat box (unlike Hannity).

Still, despite the fact that he has some viewpoints that are associated with the left, the vast, vast majority of his opinions are heavily conservative. I also think that quite a bit of the dislike for him is his tendancy to scream and shout down people he disagrees with, and the fact that he's an egomaniac. Not exactly super-attractive attributes.
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That's pretty much how I see him. My main reason is not that he has opinions which may different than mine, but because he is a dick.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: OCguy
Of course O'Reilly will now be held up as a shining example of intellect by the Left.
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I doubt it.
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I am on the left and I have always said I like O'Reilly. How could I not like somebody who is Irish. And the reason I like him is because of his moral outrage. I love his outrage, I just don't have to much faith in many of his morals. They are too simplistic. But I love his outrage because I feel it. The fact that millions of Americans have no health care is fucking outrageous and in my opinion, one I would never ever act on, the right should die if they don't get out of the way. Why do we as a society tolerate people whose political ideology, partisanship, and general lack of critical thinking, that kills innocent people, why, oh why, do we allow them to live. It is outrageous that your stupidity is killing people.
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.

Fern
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/14/oreilly-prop-8/

Gay marriage just the beginning. Other cultural war issues will also be in display very shortly. These include limiting gun possession, legalizing narcotics, unrestricted abortion and the revocation of the Patriot Act.
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Doesn't sound like a supporter to me..
 
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.

Fern
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/14/oreilly-prop-8/

Gay marriage just the beginning. Other cultural war issues will also be in display very shortly. These include limiting gun possession, legalizing narcotics, unrestricted abortion and the revocation of the Patriot Act.
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Doesn't sound like a supporter to me..
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I heard say him say it on TV. Now he's opposed to adoption rights for gay couples, but he says he's NOT opposed to gay marriage.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.

Fern
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/14/oreilly-prop-8/

Gay marriage just the beginning. Other cultural war issues will also be in display very shortly. These include limiting gun possession, legalizing narcotics, unrestricted abortion and the revocation of the Patriot Act.
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Doesn't sound like a supporter to me..
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I heard say him say it on TV. Now he's opposed to adoption rights for gay couples, but he says he's NOT opposed to gay marriage.

Fern
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Sure you did.
 
Lately Fox News has been trending Left, with O'Reilly, Shephard Smith, and their "respectful attitude" toward America's "President," racist dictator Hussein Obama. Thank God for Glenn Beck to keep the network somewhat fair and balanced.
 
Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Lately Fox News has been trending Left, with O'Reilly, Shephard Smith, and their "respectful attitude" toward America's "President," racist dictator Hussein Obama. Thank God for Glenn Beck to keep the network somewhat fair and balanced.
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100% agre......wait wah?
 
Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Lately Fox News has been trending Left, with O'Reilly, Shephard Smith, and their "respectful attitude" toward America's "President," racist dictator Hussein Obama. Thank God for Glenn Beck to keep the network somewhat fair and balanced.
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Hannity and Beck are still as psycho as ever.
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.
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It's the standard tactic of the left, especially seen by example through Phokus, all people to the "right" of themselves are a singular entity with a singular mind. If there are ever two people on "the right" who disagree, that just means the collective "right" is wrong in _all_ of their views.

Bill O'Reilly is Bill O'Reilly. Sean Hannity is Sean Hannity. Rush Limbaugh is Rush Limbaugh. Mark Levin is Mark Levin. I am me. You are you. Phokus is Phokus. Keith Olbermann is Keith Olbermann. Rachel Maddow is Rachel Maddow. They are all individuals with their own differing sets of views and opinions.

But the "progressives" do not view the world this way. They believe Bill O'Reilly _is_ Sean Hannity _is_ Rush Limbaugh _is_ Mark Levin _is_ I and _is_ you.

And hence all the stupidity that gets spewed across AT P&N on a daily basis 😛

It doesn't matter to the "progressives" where O'Reilly stands, he is to the right of themselves and thus lumped into their perceived right-wing nut job collective.
 
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Fern
Contrary to what you see around here O'Reilly is not some uber right-wing neocon conservative.

Like many people he's a bit eclectic in his views. E.g., O'Rielly supports gay marriage.

However from reading posts by lefties here you'd think he was right of Atilla the Hun.
Click to expand...

It's the standard tactic of the left, especially seen by example through Phokus, all people to the "right" of themselves are a singular entity with a singular mind. If there are ever two people on "the right" who disagree, that just means the collective "right" is wrong in _all_ of their views.

Bill O'Reilly is Bill O'Reilly. Sean Hannity is Sean Hannity. Rush Limbaugh is Rush Limbaugh. Mark Levin is Mark Levin. I am me. You are you. Phokus is Phokus. Keith Olbermann is Keith Olbermann. Rachel Maddow is Rachel Maddow. They are all individuals with their own differing sets of views and opinions.

But the "progressives" do not view the world this way. They believe Bill O'Reilly _is_ Sean Hannity _is_ Rush Limbaugh _is_ Mark Levin _is_ I and _is_ you.

And hence all the stupidity that gets spewed across AT P&N on a daily basis 😛

It doesn't matter to the "progressives" where O'Reilly stands, he is to the right of themselves and thus lumped into their perceived right-wing nut job collective.
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Do you realize how ironic your post is?

Your point is 'every person is their own man with their own opinions that can't be lumped into a singular entity'.

You then follow this up by lumping progressives into a singular entity and telling us how they all think this way.

Might want to rethink your hypothesis on this one.
 
Originally posted by: Syringer

O'Reilly backs government health insurance option

O?REILLY: But you know, I want that, Ms. Owcharenko. I want that. I want, not for personally for me, but for working Americans, to have a option, that if they don?t like their health insurance, if it?s too expensive, they can?t afford it, if the government can cobble together a cheaper insurance policy that gives the same benefits, I see that as a plus for the folks.
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WORLD ENDS!!! Film at 11!!! :shocked:

I foresee the possibility that his Faux overlords may demand some olympic grade back peddling. 😛
 
Here is my take on Health Care Plan.

You can not have the option to mandatory coverage of pre-existing conditions without the requirement for mandatory enforced insurance coverage. They discussed this concept on CNBC last night. If there is mandatory coverage for preexisting conditions then anyone that gets some kind of catastrophic illness like MS, Parkinsons, Cancer, etc., that gets sick can just wait till they get sick then go get insurance. So they only recourse is to force everyone to have insurance. This means there are a lot of people who at this time have chosen not to pay for insurance because they are spending that money on buying a house, or paying off their school loans. If you force those people to pay for insurance than they will have to stop paying for something else, causing a lot of people to file for bankruptcy.

Manadatory insurance coverage just will not work. It is not financially pheasable without raising taxes 10% on everyone in the nation.
 
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