Oregon vs Oklahoma

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alexjohnson16

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I'm all down for voiding the game and having them replay at the end of the year. The officials made bad calls throughout the game (not just near the end).

I don't understand why ESPN is saying Oklahoma recovered the ball on the onside kick. Whoever clearly has possession FIRST (Oregon) and is seen, will be awarded the ball. Just because a pile-up resulted and an Oklahoma player came up with the football does not mean they have it.

In any case, there would have been a re-kick if a procedure call was made...and Oregon could have easily gotten that.
 

thereds

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'm all down for voiding the game and having them replay at the end of the year. The officials made bad calls throughout the game (not just near the end).

I don't understand why ESPN is saying Oklahoma recovered the ball on the onside kick. Whoever clearly has possession FIRST (Oregon) and is seen, will be awarded the ball. Just because a pile-up resulted and an Oklahoma player came up with the football does not mean they have it.

In any case, there would have been a re-kick if a procedure call was made...and Oregon could have easily gotten that.

You actually saw Oregon gain possession first? Please.
 

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Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'm all down for voiding the game and having them replay at the end of the year. The officials made bad calls throughout the game (not just near the end).

I don't understand why ESPN is saying Oklahoma recovered the ball on the onside kick. Whoever clearly has possession FIRST (Oregon) and is seen, will be awarded the ball. Just because a pile-up resulted and an Oklahoma player came up with the football does not mean they have it.

In any case, there would have been a re-kick if a procedure call was made...and Oregon could have easily gotten that.

You actually saw Oregon gain possession first? Please.

exactly what i was thinking...touching the ball first does not equal possessing the football.

and your comment about 'easily' getting an onside kick...lol
 

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Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: KLin
Oklahoma President wants game voided.

Interesting.

I'm interested in the NCAA response. I'm wondering if they will ever admit to the wrong calls, and if so, whether or not they will actually take away the loss.


PAC-10 suspends crew for one game

So that pretty much shows that the officials were wrong, which is what I've been trying to say for a while. People just want to argue though.

Updated: Sep. 18, 2006, 7:36 PM ET
Pac-10 suspends officials for errors that cost OklahomaESPN.com news services


NORMAN, Okla. -- The Pacific-10 Conference suspended for one game the officiating crew and the instant replay officials that worked Saturday's Oklahoma-Oregon football game after finding mistakes were made in calls near the end of the contest.

Pac-10 Commissioner Tom Hansen said Monday that a review by conference officials of video of the game revealed that both the instant replay officials and the game officials assigned by the conference made errors in the final minute and 12 seconds of the game.

Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops argues with a referee following Oregon's onside kick in the fourth quarter on Saturday.

Oklahoma lost the game 34-33 after Oregon scored two touchdowns near the end of the game.
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Since they are admitting such blatent errors "cost Oklahoma the game" how can they let the game stand???

 

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"Errors clearly were made and not corrected, and for that we apologize to the University of Oklahoma, coach Bob Stoops and his players. They played an outstanding college football game, as did Oregon, and it is regrettable that the outcome of the contest was affected by the officiating."

University of Oklahoma president David Boren sent a letter Monday to Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg, saying the officiating problems was beyond an "outrageous injustice," and asking him to pursue having the game eliminated from the record books and having the officials involved in the game suspended for the remainder of the season.

Weiberg responded with a statement saying the result of the game would stand.

"There is no provision under NCAA or conference rules for a game result to be reversed or changed as a result of officiating errors, nor do I believe there should be," he said.
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That's a shame.

An apology but tough sh!t in the same breathe.
 

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Originally posted by: G Wizard
Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'm all down for voiding the game and having them replay at the end of the year. The officials made bad calls throughout the game (not just near the end).

I don't understand why ESPN is saying Oklahoma recovered the ball on the onside kick. Whoever clearly has possession FIRST (Oregon) and is seen, will be awarded the ball. Just because a pile-up resulted and an Oklahoma player came up with the football does not mean they have it.

In any case, there would have been a re-kick if a procedure call was made...and Oregon could have easily gotten that.

You actually saw Oregon gain possession first? Please.

exactly what i was thinking...touching the ball first does not equal possessing the football.

and your comment about 'easily' getting an onside kick...lol

Yeah, no kidding they're tough.

I see a successful onside kick about as often as I see someone give up two touchdowns in under three minutes to a sissy Pac 10 team
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'm all down for voiding the game and having them replay at the end of the year. The officials made bad calls throughout the game (not just near the end).

I don't understand why ESPN is saying Oklahoma recovered the ball on the onside kick. Whoever clearly has possession FIRST (Oregon) and is seen, will be awarded the ball. Just because a pile-up resulted and an Oklahoma player came up with the football does not mean they have it.

In any case, there would have been a re-kick if a procedure call was made...and Oregon could have easily gotten that.

You actually saw Oregon gain possession first? Please.

Yeah, before the pile-up an Oregon player got it from what I saw. The officials also quickly signaled Oregon ball (as they have a much clearer view than the cameras) because I'm sure they saw it in the hands of a Duck. As soon as they see that, it's Oregon's ball. A pile-up can happen and stuff goes on and then an Oklahoma guy comes up with the ball...but it doesn't mean anything.
 

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'm all down for voiding the game and having them replay at the end of the year. The officials made bad calls throughout the game (not just near the end).

I don't understand why ESPN is saying Oklahoma recovered the ball on the onside kick. Whoever clearly has possession FIRST (Oregon) and is seen, will be awarded the ball. Just because a pile-up resulted and an Oklahoma player came up with the football does not mean they have it.

In any case, there would have been a re-kick if a procedure call was made...and Oregon could have easily gotten that.

You actually saw Oregon gain possession first? Please.

Yeah, before the pile-up an Oregon player got it from what I saw. The officials also quickly signaled Oregon ball (as they have a much clearer view than the cameras) because I'm sure they saw it in the hands of a Duck. As soon as they see that, it's Oregon's ball. A pile-up can happen and stuff goes on and then an Oklahoma guy comes up with the ball...but it doesn't mean anything.

There are a couple videos from different angles that clearly show that no one ever had control of the football. In fact, it was between an Oklahoma player's legs as he tried to get into the pile. An Oklahoma player walks up and picks the ball up off the ground before anyone else gets posession.