Oregon State Troopers....are they all ......?

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WelshBloke

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While true, who's going to pay for it? The US is a very spread out country, the cost of installing them at enough frequency for it to actually work would be immense at best. It's not really going to cut down on the amount of law enforcement you going to employ either. They would be effective in areas that have chronic issues but in general they just won't work in this country. If you just put up a handful it will take a week for everyone to know where they are and they'll just slow down in those areas.

Dont the police there already have cameras in their cars that record the speed?
 

alkemyst

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The problem with speed cameras is who is to say only speed is being monitored.

People are too quick to give up our liberties and freedoms to try and punish the 'other guy'.

Yet in another thread they are all crying out that some marine that didn't know the gun laws is facing a mandatory 2 year minimum sentence for trying to check his gun and doing the 'right thing'.
 

boomhower

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Dont the police there already have cameras in their cars that record the speed?

They record our speed, but not the offenders. I've never seen a radar device that is portable that has a camera built into it. I'd be all for it if it was an option, it would make my life a lot easier.

i believe you are mistaken

It may vary from location to location but here all the money goes to the school system and the courts. The city and department get squat, there is no financial incentive to write tickets.
 

jlee

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If they want to stop you speeding then they wouldn't hide the cameras and traps with such a effort.

Never been to AZ? They have signs warning of photo enforcement.

I was pulled over the other week because the officer noticed that the license plate frame on my car was partially covering up the license plate tag - he couldn't tell if they were expired.

I'd bet if you look up the laws, you'd see that there's something stating that the license plate cannot be covered or otherwise obstructed. ;)
 

WelshBloke

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They record our speed, but not the offenders. I've never seen a radar device that is portable that has a camera built into it. I'd be all for it if it was an option, it would make my life a lot easier.

OP said the police tailed him for 13 miles. Thats enough time to match speeds with him and keep a constant distance, or at least good enough to give an accurate speed check.
 

reallyscrued

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Obviously a troll thread, (are you trying to prove a point to your gf or just plain bored?)

but I want to ask, she didn't look in her rear view once in over 13 miles to see a cop tailing her? No need for fancy GPSes and cameras and shit, use the mirrors and get a sense of the cars that surround you.
 

EagleKeeper

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OP said the police tailed him for 13 miles. Thats enough time to match speeds with him and keep a constant distance, or at least good enough to give an accurate speed check.

How would he know that the LEO was following for 13 miles. Unless the LEO stated so.

Speeds can be easily matched within a mile if the LEO was moving; 2 miles if starting from a dead stop.

Most likely scenario:
The GF was moving well past the speed limit
Caught the LEO attention
He caught up and paced her
She continued driving in what was considered a reckless manner.
 

LookBehindYou

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He was driving undercover in a black dodge charger. No visible lights or anything. When the lights did come on, they were located INSIDE his car.

Well then you and/or you're girlfriend are idiots for not noticing it. If you make the decision to break the law it's on you to try and not get caught. I know if I decide to speed (usually 5-10 over, conditions permitting) I am very careful about slowing down when I see any type of black/blue/grey dodge charger, crown vic, taurus, or mustang. It is not that hard to spot an unmarked, whether they are behind, beside, or in front of you. Any decent driver is always scanning the road.

Don't know what the point of this thread is. You do the crime, you pay the price. I'm no angel myself, but I am very aware of the possible consequences of my actions. I get caught, its my fault and I won't be looking for sympathy or help on fighting it.
 

Zargon

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Most states have reciprocal agreements where violations are sent back to the drivers home state. Depending on the where the OP is from that may work. The downside is if they go back and the OP is driving and gets stopped there could be an big issue if the GF's name is checked for any reason, she will be going to jail for skipping court.

yes but likely only in the county it happened it.

could be worth the risk...... ():)

you can always refuse to ID yourself if you are not the driver, which is perfectly legal, but most officers don't know that
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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OP claims it was an undercover vehicle

I find undercover cops to be easy to spot, just look for suspicious antennas and an unusually low hanging rear.

The inside lights can also be easy to spot because they tend to give themselves away by having a large profile on the windshield.

Yes I actually pay attention to cop cars, which is why I've been warned 4 times for different things in the same town without any tickets to my name.
 
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Gerle

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Or you can drive the way you are supposed to and not get any warnings, nor tickets.
 

BoomerD

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Or you can drive the way you are supposed to and not get any warnings, nor tickets.

SHUT YOUR FUCKING WHORE MOUTH!! Do NOT EVER attempt to post a common sense answer in an ATOT traffic thread again.


You have been warned.







:D
 

EagleKeeper

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Or you can drive the way you are supposed to and not get any warnings, nor tickets.

SHUT YOUR FUCKING WHORE MOUTH!! Do NOT EVER attempt to post a common sense answer in an ATOT traffic thread again.


You have been warned.







:D

Do it again and a ticket will be issued for illegal distribution of common sense. :cool:
 

Narse

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You can just not pay for it. They can't do anything to you since you don't live in Oregon. Just make sure when you come back to the state, your GF is no longer driving. :)

Yea do that, they will just suspend your GF license and the next time she gets pulled over she will goto jail.


Ask me how I know.......
 

coloumb

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I'd bet if you look up the laws, you'd see that there's something stating that the license plate cannot be covered or otherwise obstructed. ;)

Probably so. I found it odd it took a police officer 7 years to finally notice it. :D
 

Zenmervolt

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For the record, I made my statement AFTER he gave us the citations...so I didn't influence his decision.

Because the fact that you were willing to say that to him at all totally doesn't provide very strong evidence that you were less than polite throughout the remainder of the encounter. :rolleyes:

ZV
 

JPS35

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So your GF was exceeding the speed limit by 10mph in the rain and you feel she bears no responsibility? What a load of crap. She did speed, she did change lanes without signaling and those are only the offenses you admit to. There were probably others. If she had been driving the speed limit there would have been no trouble and likely if she signaled before changing lanes she would not have stood out enough to attract attention. Thinking cops are out to get you is childish and pathetic. If you think troopers are dicks don't give them anything to pull you over for. Simple enough, you fail to comprehend it and your GF failed to follow it. Pay the ticket and learn how to drive.

This, enough said.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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i thought AZ got rid of those?

The *state* let its contract lapse, so all the fixed cameras are gone from the interstates. What remains are the fixed cameras on city streets owned by the cities as well as a few mobile vans. In any case they tend to be fairly well marked in the Phoenix area. The Tucson ones are not nearly as well marked.