Oregon college shooting

[Atomic Playboy]

How soon before a 'first person' computer shooting game about this comes out?

You think that a company is going to attempt to code and sell a video game specifically about shooting up a school as seen from the perspective of the shooter? Individuals have already made mods for existing games that do this, but an actual company attempting to sell such a game will never happen. Who would you market that to? Budding psychopaths aren't actually an enormous market segment.

 

[Kaido]

You can't be serious. Obozo just said states with gun laws have fewer shootings. LMAO! Yeah buddy, your own home town

I don't think we're ever going to get rid of the right to be arms, and even if we did, then only the bad guys would have guns (illegally). What we need to focus on is better mental health care. People don't go around shooting other people up unless they have serious issues. In every single recent case of mass shootings I've read, it's always a guy with a mental health problem, and most people around them knew that they had serious issues that needed to be addressed. I've read some heartbreaking stories of parents with kids who have these issues & we just don't have a strong enough system in this country to deal with them. Throw in the issues of having a private healthcare system & there you go, a recipe for disaster.

 

[waggy]

You can't be serious. Obozo just said states with gun laws have fewer shootings. LMAO! Yeah buddy, your own home town Shitcago?

BTW, some 45 died in Shitcago last week. Where's the outrage?

You will NEVER see it.

the fact 45 died and many of those kids won't spark outrage. nope. they will take the 13-16 that died today for politics.

The fact that 45 died (nearly all black) won't come up. why? nothing to be gained from it.

 

[John Connor]

I thought about that, but then I thought about Adam Lanza. He had access to his mother's arsenal.

Bat shit crazy. http://static2.businessinsider.com/...as-a-vegan-recluse-who-didnt-seem-violent.jpg

I don't think we're ever going to get rid of the right to be arms, and even if we did, then only the bad guys would have guns (illegally). What we need to focus on is better mental health care. People don't go around shooting other people up unless they have serious issues. In every single recent case of mass shootings I've read, it's always a guy with a mental health problem, and most people around them knew that they had serious issues that needed to be addressed. I've read some heartbreaking stories of parents with kids who have these issues & we just don't have a strong enough system in this country to deal with them. Throw in the issues of having a private healthcare system & there you go, a recipe for disaster.

 

[waggy]

I don't think we're ever going to get rid of the right to be arms, and even if we did, then only the bad guys would have guns (illegally). What we need to focus on is better mental health care. People don't go around shooting other people up unless they have serious issues. In every single recent case of mass shootings I've read, it's always a guy with a mental health problem, and most people around them knew that they had serious issues that needed to be addressed. I've read some heartbreaking stories of parents with kids who have these issues & we just don't have a strong enough system in this country to deal with them. Throw in the issues of having a private healthcare system & there you go, a recipe for disaster.

i agree. WE should be doing more for mental health care anyway. but as a nation we tend to just cut them loose and them do whatever.

 

[maddogchen]

This is what bothers me - people anonymously encouraging the guy to do it via social media:

yeah that was disappointing to hear.

 

[John Connor]

yeah that was disappointing to hear.

You and I know people, especially young punks are idiots. Their brain isn't developed until 25.

 

[waggy]

You and I know people, especially young punks are idiots. Their brain isn't developed until 25.

sure. but even at 14 i knew not to run into a school and shoot people up

 

[John Connor]

Don't take my word for it. According to Dr. Phil your brain doesn't develop until 25. But I digress, you know that adolescents don't have a good sense of judgement. I could probably convince one to ride on top of a car for a pack of smokes.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Thanks for the explanation! I was beginning to worry we had a gun culture problem in our country. While you're busy minimizing this, please minimize the Holocaust for us, too. Hey, it only happened once on that scale, right?

lol. Complaining about these kinds of spree killings is like saying "Hey, why just mention the Holocaust, we had Germans in intern camps during WW2 as well!" But go ahead and keep ignoring that violent gun crime is more an urban youth problem than anything else.

 

[BoomerD]

i agree. WE should be doing more for mental health care anyway. but as a nation we tend to just cut them loose and them do whatever.

What do you do for the mentally damaged? At what point to "we" intervene and take them off the streets? Who pays for their "treatment?" Do we merely warehouse them in asylums like we did 100 years ago? Do we lobotomize them? Giving them meds doesn't always work...often, they revolt against taking those meds. (anarchist420?)

You and I know people, especially young punks are idiots. Their brain isn't developed until 25.

Yep...this place is a daily example of the truth in that...

 

[CraKaJaX]

This is what bothers me - people anonymously encouraging the guy to do it via social media:

Did you see the link that was posted in this thread?? A ton of anonymous people were egging him on thinking the person (who I assume is the alleged shooter) wouldn't do it.

 

[Kaido]

Did you see the link that was posted in this thread?? A ton of anonymous people were egging him on thinking the person (who I assume is the alleged shooter) wouldn't do it.

I know there have been some cases where people have done suicide encouragement via webcam & stuff, and of course are shocked when it happens. Then you have messed-up people like this:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/teen...ter-for-encouraging-friend-to-commit-suicide/

It's easy to be an anonymous jerk on the net, but every hateful thing you post online is affecting someone somewhere. A lot of people don't realize that or just don't care. I wonder how guilty those people feel after encouraging him to do something horrible & then he actually did it...why would you even encourage that behavior in the first place? Granted, a lot of those people were probably young teenagers who don't hesitate to cuss you out on Xbox with all sorts of hateful things, so you have a pretty wide range of audiences online I guess.

 

[Kaido]

Did you see the link that was posted in this thread?? A ton of anonymous people were egging him on thinking the person (who I assume is the alleged shooter) wouldn't do it.

That sentence just blows my mind tho - "hey, let's encourage him because he probably won't do it!" I can't find the article, but there was a dude who jumped off a NYC building to his death & was talking to the crowd before hand. The cops & a bunch of people were tell him not to, but a ton of people were actually yelling for him to jump and encouraging him & had their smartphones out ready to capture the video & photos.

Those kinds of people are the ones we need to lock away

 

[BoomerD]

That sentence just blows my mind tho - "hey, let's encourage him because he probably won't do it!" I can't find the article, but there was a dude who jumped off a NYC building to his death & was talking to the crowd before hand. The cops & a bunch of people were tell him not to, but a ton of people were actually yelling for him to jump and encouraging him & had their smartphones out ready to capture the video & photos.

Those kinds of people are the ones we need to lock away

"Hurry up and jump, you bastard. I'm gonna miss my bus!"

 

[sdifox]

Guns are the legal residents of America. The people that live there are just vessels.

 

[videogames101]

Why do people feel the need to commit mass shootings? Is it because they have access to guns? I'm thinking probably not. I do not own a gun.

Guy should've lit up some mj...

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Guy should've lit up some mj...

Paranoid schizophrenia tho

 

[CraKaJaX]

Why do people feel the need to commit mass shootings? Is it because they have access to guns? I'm thinking probably not. I do not own a gun.

They need help, They won't seek it themselves, Terrible parents, Bad childhood, Can't handle 'bullying', Can't handle life in general, Etc. If you look at each fairly recent mass shooting (Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc) it always boils down to something like that. These people (kids) have problems and the only solution to fixing it is taking other people's lives and potentially their own. They won't seek any guidance in a humane way. Stupid but true.

 

[Brian Stirling]

I know there have been some cases where people have done suicide encouragement via webcam & stuff, and of course are shocked when it happens. Then you have messed-up people like this:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/teen...ter-for-encouraging-friend-to-commit-suicide/

It's easy to be an anonymous jerk on the net, but every hateful thing you post online is affecting someone somewhere. A lot of people don't realize that or just don't care. I wonder how guilty those people feel after encouraging him to do something horrible & then he actually did it...why would you even encourage that behavior in the first place? Granted, a lot of those people were probably young teenagers who don't hesitate to cuss you out on Xbox with all sorts of hateful things, so you have a pretty wide range of audiences online I guess.

I really believe that a substantial number of those that egg disturb people to kill themselves or others are in fact sociopaths/psychopaths. The internet is a wonderful tool for sick people to involve themselves in death without fear of being caught or prosecuted. If you're into killing people the internet gives you the opportunity to do so vicariously and with little chance of being stopped.


Brian

 

[OverVolt]

I don't think we're ever going to get rid of the right to be arms, and even if we did, then only the bad guys would have guns (illegally). What we need to focus on is better mental health care. People don't go around shooting other people up unless they have serious issues. In every single recent case of mass shootings I've read, it's always a guy with a mental health problem, and most people around them knew that they had serious issues that needed to be addressed. I've read some heartbreaking stories of parents with kids who have these issues & we just don't have a strong enough system in this country to deal with them. Throw in the issues of having a private healthcare system & there you go, a recipe for disaster.

Yea but I've always thought people who are drugged up are alot more likely to do this kind of shit. In my experience people who are heavily medicated are really hard to reason with. I don't think anybody has ever been talked down or out of something like this. Like just break down in tears and turn themselves in. Nope. Never happens. They have to put the guy down every time. Can't be reasoned with, totally emotionless. Only drugs do that. Just like the pilot who dove the plane into the ground despite everyone pleading with him and he just went on with it like he couldn't even hear them.

All they are gonna do is drug them up and then there will be even more of this shit. This is actually fairly predictable with the push for more people to be in psychiatric treatment. My opinion anyway. And I know its not a popular one and some people consider it crazy talk, but its just the experience I've had as I get older and having to deal with difficult people who turn out to be on alot of drugs. And I've had the joy of seeing people who I used to get along with go the drugged up route and turn into the same thing.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Yeah, this shit again. Prez Obozo is speaking now. Can't wait for when he talks about the 2nd Amendment.

Instead of paying a professor 200,000 dollars a year install some damn security. Arm the teachers! If you want to stop it on the street enforce stop and frisk!

Every week we hear about this shit.

What shall we arm them with? Sounds like a really great learning environment....make sure the teachers are strapped with shotguns while teaching. I also think we need turrets and armed drones at schools. America, f*ck yeah.

 

[OverVolt]

That sentence just blows my mind tho - "hey, let's encourage him because he probably won't do it!" I can't find the article, but there was a dude who jumped off a NYC building to his death & was talking to the crowd before hand. The cops & a bunch of people were tell him not to, but a ton of people were actually yelling for him to jump and encouraging him & had their smartphones out ready to capture the video & photos.

Those kinds of people are the ones we need to lock away

Its actually very easy to put an idea into someones head who is on alot of psych drugs. Then convincing them out of it is the hard part. Alot of times they misunderstand, but they already adopted the way of thinking and there is no way to undo it.

Head cases mang.

You can try again but they will misunderstand that, too. Then its like ermagard the more I try and fix it the worse it gets.

 

[Mai72]

Why would you expect something that's so rare?

Why do we put up with it in the first place? I don't care if it only happens oncell in a blue moon.

It should never happen. That's the problem in America today. We've gotten so used to these things that we just shrug our shoulders.

 

[OverVolt]

Why do we put up with it in the first place? I don't care if it only happens oncell in a blue moon.

It should never happen. That's the problem in America today. We've gotten so used to these things that we just shrug our shoulders.

These cases always have like no motive, or motive that is out of proportion to the bullying involved. Just like their emotions, they aren't quite right.

At this point people who aren't emotionally balanced give me the heebie jeebies.

Social awkwardness is actually a good sign, its understandable to be shy at times like when meeting new people, or if you don't give many presentations, or whatever. Its the people who are always in the wrong emotional context that you have to pay special attention to.