Ordered new Athlon computer!!!

[WHipLAsh13]

My condolences on your new rig.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13
My condolences on your new rig.

Troll.....

Congrats, and enjoy your new rig !

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: sandorski
Doh! The ol' bait and switch!

Requesting clue in...

I read this thread last night and you had a P4 system listed. Read this morning and you had Athlon listed, but everyone else was talking as if you were getting a P4.

 

[FishTankX]

Hah. Well, whatever you say man. You seem like a swiftech loyalist though. How long have you been using swiftech stuff? They were big alpha competitors and then they got really expensive and then thermalright came on the same then blew them all out of the water for price performance. The heatsink industry is a very volatile one..

Have fun with your rig. You can always leave transcoding going overnight.

That all being said, I still don't understand why DV is your hobby but you haven't invested in a hardware sollution yet. Can't you get conversion cards that will do the job faster than a P4 3.2 can, while at the same time being carriable over to your next rig? That seems a far sounder investment than a new, upgrade use then toss kind of rig.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: FishTankX
Hah. Well, whatever you say man. You seem like a swiftech loyalist though. How long have you been using swiftech stuff? They were big alpha competitors and then they got really expensive and then thermalright came on the same then blew them all out of the water for price performance. The heatsink industry is a very volatile one..

Have fun with your rig. You can always leave transcoding going overnight.

That all being said, I still don't understand why DV is your hobby but you haven't invested in a hardware sollution yet. Can't you get conversion cards that will do the job faster than a P4 3.2 can, while at the same time being carriable over to your next rig? That seems a far sounder investment than a new, upgrade use then toss kind of rig.

The Matrox solutions are evily expensive...any cheaper ones that you know about?

 

[FishTankX]

What's your budget? Matrox has stuff in the 500$ rig, about as much as a CPU+Mobo+RAM+Videocard upgrade. If you could skip on one interval, you could probably get one and it'd make more sense since you could carry it over to your next system. Then again, when you build your next system, most rigs will probably be able to eclipse it.

But the RT2000 came out years ago. Still haven't bought one?

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: FishTankX
What's your budget? Matrox has stuff in the 500$ rig, about as much as a CPU+Mobo+RAM+Videocard upgrade. If you could skip on one interval, you could probably get one and it'd make more sense since you could carry it over to your next system. Then again, when you build your next system, most rigs will probably be able to eclipse it.

But the RT2000 came out years ago. Still haven't bought one?

Now my budget is $0. I don't have a lot of money.

 

[fredtam]

WTF? You castrated the great system you had listed last night.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: fredtam
WTF? You castrated the great system you had listed last night.

The additional price for that 30-30% encoding advantage isn't worth it to me. Besides, the Athlon 3200+ hold it's ground very well for most of the other benchmarks.

 

[FishTankX]

I guess that's why you went Athlon. Good choice for the short run. And that 150$ will make whatever choices you make in the long run, better.

 

[adams828]

so ok, i was thinking about doing the whole p4 2.6c/ic7 route.. but now i'm thinking about going with a similar athlon setup and using the $ i save for a video card.

if i'm not going to overclock (at least in the near future), how big of a performance difference is there between the two? with and without the better video card i can get w/the athlon (otherwise i'll be using a radeon7000 i have already)

edit: just noticed the price diff would only be around $80.. i can't really get much of a vid card for that can i? i mean, prob better than radeon7000, but i might as well wait until have more and get like a radeon9600 pro

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: adams828
so ok, i was thinking about doing the whole p4 2.6c/ic7 route.. but now i'm thinking about going with a similar athlon setup and using the $ i save for a video card.

if i'm not going to overclock (at least in the near future), how big of a performance difference is there between the two? with and without the better video card i can get w/the athlon (otherwise i'll be using a radeon7000 i have already)

edit: just noticed the price diff would only be around $80.. i can't really get much of a vid card for that can i? i mean, prob better than radeon7000, but i might as well wait until have more and get like a radeon9600 pro

You might have to wait on the Radeon yes but in the meantime you would have a Barton 2500+, which easily hits 3200+ speeds (2.2GHz) on stock voltage stably.

 

[FishTankX]

Originally posted by: adams828
so ok, i was thinking about doing the whole p4 2.6c/ic7 route.. but now i'm thinking about going with a similar athlon setup and using the $ i save for a video card.

if i'm not going to overclock (at least in the near future), how big of a performance difference is there between the two? with and without the better video card i can get w/the athlon (otherwise i'll be using a radeon7000 i have already)

edit: just noticed the price diff would only be around $80.. i can't really get much of a vid card for that can i? i mean, prob better than radeon7000, but i might as well wait until have more and get like a radeon9600 pro

The difference would be larger.

The difference between a 2.6C and a 2500+ is just 90$ in itself.

Combine that with a 75$ NForce motherboard and you've saved enough money to buy yourself a Ti4200, which has many times the performance of your Radeon 7000.

The Radeon 7000 performs equivalently to a TNT2. It's an absolutley horrid gaming sollution.



This is a bit old, but look at the chart. Your card is the Radeon VE

 

[Boonesmi]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Athlon XP 2500+ from NewEgg
Asus A7N8X-X from NewEgg
Corsair XMS Platinum PC3200 512MB from NewEgg
Swiftech MCX-462V from NewEgg
Koutech 2-Port IEEE1394 Card from NewEgg
Panaflo M1A 92mm from Sidewinder Computers

I was going to get Kingston but the PC3200 model had lots of problems so I settled on Corsair since everyone here seems to think well of it. Not to mention that it has fairly low latencies but I might be able to get it lower.
And of course the Athlon 2500+ will be going to 2.2GHz once it gets here.

Should be arriving Monday or Tuesday! Drool...

-Por

looks like a killer system to me

but why get a swiftech hsf? it cost $10 more and is less efficent then the thermalright slk900a
http://www.pcabusers.com/reviews/swiftech/mcx462v/p3.html

 

[FishTankX]

Good question

 

[adams828]

Originally posted by: FishTankX


The difference would be larger.

The difference between a 2.6C and a 2500+ is just 90$ in itself.

Combine that with a 75$ NForce motherboard and you've saved enough money to buy yourself a Ti4200, which has many times the performance of your Radeon 7000.

Hm ok, I was looking at the price for the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe, not the A7N8X-X.. whoops.

Thanks for the link.. no wonder the card wouldn't really play games (got it as a hand-me-down from dad, previous card I used was a voodoo3 3000 )

So if I get the 2500+ and OC it do 2.2 GHz, can I use the retail HSF? If not, what are some good OCing ones for AMD?

Oh, and is the 400MHz fsb on the A7N8X worth the $15 more than A7N8X-X?

Sorry for all the questions.. was doing hw on a P4 setup until this thread made me change my mind! Hehe

 

[FishTankX]

Haha. That's funny. I'm not sure which card is better.

Anyways, a Ti4200 or Radeon 9600 would walk all *over* your Radeon 7000.

A good logical choice would be to just forgoe upgrading your CPU/Mobo and buy a Radeon 9800 NP or a a FX5900.

These two cards would give you an astranomical boost in most games and I don't think you'd be too terribly CPU limited. Then again, you could possibly be. In that case, a Radeon 9600 pro or something would probably be more fitting.

Just make sure not to buy anything with an SE after it. It's ATI lingo for $hitty Edition.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: Boonesmi

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Athlon XP 2500+ from NewEgg
Asus A7N8X-X from NewEgg
Corsair XMS Platinum PC3200 512MB from NewEgg
Swiftech MCX-462V from NewEgg
Koutech 2-Port IEEE1394 Card from NewEgg
Panaflo M1A 92mm from Sidewinder Computers

I was going to get Kingston but the PC3200 model had lots of problems so I settled on Corsair since everyone here seems to think well of it. Not to mention that it has fairly low latencies but I might be able to get it lower.
And of course the Athlon 2500+ will be going to 2.2GHz once it gets here.

Should be arriving Monday or Tuesday! Drool...

-Por

looks like a killer system to me

but why get a swiftech hsf? it cost $10 more and is less efficent then the thermalright slk900a
http://www.pcabusers.com/reviews/swiftech/mcx462v/p3.html

It's because I didn't do my research on that. However it still performs well and I would be using a fan that is a little more then twice the CFM.