Ordered new Athlon computer!!!

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Athlon XP 2500+ from NewEgg
Asus A7N8X-X from NewEgg
Corsair XMS Platinum PC3200 512MB from NewEgg
Swiftech MCX-462V from NewEgg
Koutech 2-Port IEEE1394 Card from NewEgg
Panaflo M1A 92mm from Sidewinder Computers

I was going to get Kingston but the PC3200 model had lots of problems so I settled on Corsair since everyone here seems to think well of it. Not to mention that it has fairly low latencies but I might be able to get it lower.
And of course the Athlon 2500+ will be going to 2.2GHz once it gets here. :)

Should be arriving Monday or Tuesday! Drool...

-Por
 

FishTankX

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Ah. So you're just upgrading your core.

What made you choose this 2.6C system over the 2500+ you seem to be advertising everywhere, if it can hit 3200+ speeds for a fraction of the price?
 

fredtam

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AMD is fine for other peoples rigs (most are on a tight budget) he just doesn't want it in his;). I'm the same way. Besides a 2.6c outperforms even a 3200.
 

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Originally posted by: fredtam
AMD is fine for other peoples rigs (most are on a tight budget) he just doesn't want it in his;). I'm the same way. Besides a 2.6c outperforms even a 3200.

Yes. Plus I am encoding which is the P4's world.
 

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....Not in all benchmarks. In games, the 3200+ seems more equal to a 2.8C, while in video it seems more equal to a 2.4-5C and in scientific benchmarks the two are utterly incomparible. But if he was trying to play the 2500->3200+ gamble and won, he could get something close in performance to his current upgrade with much less money. The only consideration being his upgrade path.
 

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Originally posted by: FishTankX
....Not in all benchmarks. In games, the 3200+ seems more equal to a 2.8C, while in video it seems more equal to a 2.4-5C and in scientific benchmarks the two are utterly incomparible. But if he was trying to play the 2500->3200+ gamble and won, he could get something close in performance to his current upgrade with much less money. The only consideration being his upgrade path.

You also have to take into consideration that a 3.2GHz P4 will literally crush an Athlon XP 3200+ in every benchmark, synthetic or real-world.
 

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Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Originally posted by: FishTankX
....Not in all benchmarks. In games, the 3200+ seems more equal to a 2.8C, while in video it seems more equal to a 2.4-5C and in scientific benchmarks the two are utterly incomparible. But if he was trying to play the 2500->3200+ gamble and won, he could get something close in performance to his current upgrade with much less money. The only consideration being his upgrade path.

You also have to take into consideration that a 3.2GHz P4 will literally crush an Athlon XP 3200+ in every benchmark, synthetic or real-world.


Also ihow much is an AMD mobo with a comparable feature set and performance to an IS7 ($100) cost? I know the stock intel HSF is very efficient and will cool well at higher OCs (my 2.8c is at 3.5 on stock) would I need additional cooling to run the 2500 at 3200 speeds? Also if you look at the benches from Anantech the test was on an intel board which doesn't match the performance of the IS7 and as stated before a 2.6 @ 3.2 would crush a 2500 @ 3200 speeds.
 

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Yes. But that doesn't matter.

You constantly talk about using the 2500+ because it can hit 3200+, but don't use it yourself? :confused:

It certainley seems that if you didn't have the cash to upgrade video, you could have saved some cash by going 2500+. A spectacular 150$ by my recokning.

Are you going to overclock your 2.6?
 

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Originally posted by: FishTankX
....Not in all benchmarks. In games, the 3200+ seems more equal to a 2.8C, while in video it seems more equal to a 2.4-5C and in scientific benchmarks the two are utterly incomparible. But if he was trying to play the 2500->3200+ gamble and won, he could get something close in performance to his current upgrade with much less money. The only consideration being his upgrade path.

You also have to take into consideration that a 3.2GHz P4 will literally crush an Athlon XP 3200+ in every benchmark, synthetic or real-world.


Also ihow much is an AMD mobo with a comparable feature set and performance to an IS7 ($100) cost? I know the stock intel HSF is very efficient and will cool well at higher OCs (my 2.8c is at 3.5 on stock) would I need additional cooling to run the 2500 at 3200 speeds? Also if you look at the benches from Anantech the test was on an intel board which doesn't match the performance of the IS7 and as stated before a 2.6 @ 3.2 would crush a 2500 @ 3200 speeds.

The 2500+'s advantage is being 90$ cheaper. Combined with the fact that most Nforce2 boards can be had under 75$ (Without SATA ofcourse..) with some under 60$. That totals up to a shocking 150$, money which could be invested in a videocard upgrade.

If he had a 9800 or 9800 pro I could understand this purchase much more readily.
 

fredtam

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He said he intended to OC to 3.2. He would only save <$90 by my count. Certainly not enough to buy a vid card that would outperform his OCd 9600 pro.
 

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Ah. I did not read the entire post clearly.

My recokning is this.

P4: 171$ AthlonXP 2500+ 86$ difference - About 90$

Abit AI7: 120$ Asus Nforce2 400 Ultra: 71$. Difference - Around 50$.

That's about 140$.

Enough to buy a swap for his videocard.

Then again, it's not always all about the videocard.

Sorry about misreading your post. Your purchase seems reasonable, but I would not spend that much on a heatsink.

 

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What kind of encoding are you doing, may I ask? And also, is it a large part of this rig's workload?
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: FishTankX
What kind of encoding are you doing, may I ask? And also, is it a large part of this rig's workload?

Now I'm not reading. He got the AI7 not the IS7.
 

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I find it difficult to believe prescott will go very far on socket 478. But it'll buy him another year or so on Socket478.

At any rate, good luck with your rig. But the benchmarks ionizer and justly posted are some convincing proof that the 3200+ is not the wimp you make it out to be.
 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: FishTankX
I find it difficult to believe prescott will go very far on socket 478. But it'll buy him another year or so on Socket478.

At any rate, good luck with your rig. But the benchmarks ionizer and justly posted are some convincing proof that the 3200+ is not the wimp you make it out to be.

I never said that. It is a potent processor however for encoding it falls miserably behind and that is a major part of what I plan to do with this rig.

I would be encoding video off of my MiniDV camcorder to put on DVD's.

Not to mention that I am tired of my AthlonXP rigs freezing up when I am working on them...
 

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That's intriguing. Which chipset are you using for your AXP?

Anyways.. I can see the logic in your purchase. It seems like a very reasonable rig for transcoding.

I would not overclock if your tired of lockups, though.
 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: FishTankX
That's intriguing. Which chipset are you using for your AXP?

Anyways.. I can see the logic in your purchase. It seems like a very reasonable rig for transcoding.

I would not overclock if your tired of lockups, though.

Acutually I just bought the AthlonXP. I was thinking on it and though, "professional may need the extra power but this is a hobby and I don't need the fastest." Besides, I couldn't justify the $150-200 just for the extra 45% on encoding. And I also decided that I would like a beefed Athlon rig instead of a more base Intel one.