Orange stain second term results thread

[ivwshane]

https://www.euronews.com/2022/06/30...der-wall-with-belarus-after-migration-dispute

Well shit, Poland doesn't fuck around either with their border and bad actors. You think they might be on to something?

Those people in Latvia didn't check with you before building a border fence?

https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/...ce-on-latvia-russia-border-completed.a557847/

No.

There have been repeated attempts to saw through sections of the fence. Brigadier General Robert Bagan, the commander-in-chief of the Polish Border Guard, picked up a small thin saw that had been confiscated at the border and explained that if larger battery-operated devices were used, the fence could be cut in six to eight minutes.

Last year, almost 30,000 people tried to cross the border into Poland from Belarus, despite the ongoing modernization of the barriers and fences.

Poland's Belarus border fence: A controversial deterrent – DW – 01/18/2025

Since 2021, Poland has established a border fence equipped with modern surveillance technology to prevent people from entering from Belarus. Rights activists accuse border guards of practicing a "pushback" strategy.

amp.dw.com

Treating symptoms doesn’t fix the problem.

 

[Brovane]

No.

Poland's Belarus border fence: A controversial deterrent – DW – 01/18/2025

Since 2021, Poland has established a border fence equipped with modern surveillance technology to prevent people from entering from Belarus. Rights activists accuse border guards of practicing a "pushback" strategy.

amp.dw.com

Treating symptoms doesn’t fix the problem.

A border fence is just one layer of deterrence. It is meant to slowdown attempted illegal entry so border guards can intercept.

But all the more power to you if you think you know more than the Finland, Poland and Latvia governments and how to control their borders.

 

[ivwshane]

A border fence is just one layer of deterrence. It is meant to slowdown attempted illegal entry so border guards can intercept.

But all the more power to you if you think you know more than the Finland, Poland and Latvia governments and how to control their borders.

But they don’t control their border any better than they did before. You think border crossings are down because of X policy without understanding the many reasons why border crossings fluctuate in the first place. It’s a feel good solution for idiots with zero critical thinking skills. It’s why you use logical fallacies like appealing to authority because it’s a shortcut to actually looking into the problem and the solutions that are offered.

 

[Brovane]

But they don’t control their border any better than they did before. You think border crossings are down because of X policy without understanding the many reasons why border crossings fluctuate in the first place. It’s a feel good solution for idiots with zero critical thinking skills. It’s why you use logical fallacies like appealing to authority because it’s a shortcut to actually looking into the problem and the solutions that are offered.

What specific metrics are you looking at to make that determination?

 

[ivwshane]

What specific metrics are you looking at to make that determination?

Interesting. So you want me to answer a question you couldn’t bother answering, let alone asking yourself, when you made the claim that because other countries are doing it that must mean it works.

 

[Brovane]

Interesting. So you want me to answer a question you couldn’t bother answering, let alone asking yourself, when you made the claim that because other countries are doing it that must mean it works.

You are claiming they don't work, so you must have some metric you have looked at to make that determination, right?

 

[igor_kavinski]

You know a country sucks big time when so many people are trying to get out of that country...

 

[outriding]

Or saws. Or shovels. Or rust.

Don’t forget erosion

 

[IronWing]

A border fence is just one layer of deterrence. It is meant to slowdown attempted illegal entry so border guards can intercept.

But all the more power to you if you think you know more than the Finland, Poland and Latvia governments and how to control their borders.

How does a border wall prevent visa overstays?

 

[IronWing]

You are claiming they don't work, so you must have some metric you have looked at to make that determination, right?

According to fascist propaganda, tens of millions came right through Trump’s previous wall. Which is it?

 

[brycejones]

Things are getting real in Springfield Ohio.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/18/us/springfield-ohio-haitian-immigrants-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.f08.Le4g.kMSYEM1Tfpwv&smid=url-share

Gifted article good for 2 weeks.

Just a reminder the Trump admin isn’t just going after “criminal illegals” which really means any undocumented person. But is also going after legal immigrants it can find ways to kick out of the country. You know the people who have “done it the right way” that Republicans constantly claim to want immigrants to do. A war on immigrants is what folks like @Greenman voted for.

Also the impacts on the economy in Springfield Ohio are going to be profound .

 

[pmv]

Is this as unprecedented as people seem to consider it? I mean, I don't know, have no idea if any past Presidents have done this sort-of-thing...I guess it's not unknown to do so for those who are long-dead, e.g. the big pic of Lincoln up there as well, but is this a completely new thing to honour the "Great Leader" while they are still alive (well, just about, and technically, in Trump's case) and in office?.

The Internet Is Responding After A Giant Banner Of Trump's Face Was Placed On A Government Building

"This is deeply fascist."

www.buzzfeed.com

 

[brycejones]

Is this as unprecedented as people seem to consider it? I mean, I don't know, have no idea if any past Presidents have done this sort-of-thing...I guess it's not unknown to do so for those who are long-dead, e.g. the big pic of Lincoln up there as well, but is this a completely new thing to honour the "Great Leader" while they are still alive (well, just about, and technically, in Trump's case) and in office?.

The Internet Is Responding After A Giant Banner Of Trump's Face Was Placed On A Government Building

"This is deeply fascist."

www.buzzfeed.com

This is not normal in the US. Just another sign that the so called party of small government is really just a personality cult at this point. If Obama had done this the right would have been in the streets.

 

[gothuevos]

Teflon Don, truly.

Live updates: N.Y. appeals court tosses 'excessive' civil fraud judgment against Trump

Trump administration live updates and latest news as Zelenskyy seeks security guarantees and California plans to vote on a new congressional redistricting plan.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[igor_kavinski]

The Internet Is Responding After A Giant Banner Of Trump's Face Was Placed On A Government Building

"This is deeply fascist."

www.buzzfeed.com

Reminds me of Half Life 2.

Now he just needs video walls:

 

[outriding]

Things are getting real in Springfield Ohio.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/18/us/springfield-ohio-haitian-immigrants-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.f08.Le4g.kMSYEM1Tfpwv&smid=url-share

Gifted article good for 2 weeks.

Just a reminder the Trump admin isn’t just going after “criminal illegals” which really means any undocumented person. But is also going after legal immigrants it can find ways to kick out of the country. You know the people who have “done it the right way” that Republicans constantly claim to want immigrants to do. A war on immigrants is what folks like @Greenman voted for.

Also the impacts on the economy in Springfield Ohio are going to be profound .

1) fuck ohio
2) from the article. It says trump removed protections. That seems like that in a normal world because things are normally grandfathered in
3) if it says undocumented…. The Haitians are documented but illegal soooo I bet a crafty lawyer can get it thrown out because it says undocumented…

But anyways it is just another day with this shitty administration

 

[Brovane]

How does a border wall prevent visa overstays?

It doesn't.

According to fascist propaganda, tens of millions came right through Trump’s previous wall. Which is it?

They came through incomplete sections that Biden Administration refused to fix.



Are you old enough to remember the "Border Rushes" in the San Diego area in the 1990's?