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Lifer
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Didn't see this one posted yet (hard to keep track). Hard to shed any tears over John Bolton losing his security clearance - in-fighting among the right is both amusing and intriguing, though.

President Trump took executive action Monday to start revoking the security clearances of his former national security adviser, John Bolton, and dozens of intelligence officials who signed a letter in 2020 claiming emails found on a laptop owned by Hunter Biden bore the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign.

 
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Well, he wasn't, and he didn't exactly improve on his popularity in the intervening years either, even with an initially fractured 2020 primary.
Well now that we see how inept the Democratic leadership is with how they go with nominees I think it's fair to say at this point those emails were probably just the tip of the iceberg.

They were clearly against Bernie in 2016 and clearly against him in 2020. I don't know if he could have won a 20/20 but he could have won in 2016.

The Democrats leadership is inept and corrupt. I can't wait till the primaries are over this year so I can leave the party. Can't stand these fuckers
 
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Federal Judge blocked the Birthright Citizenship EO. Reagan appointee Judge Coughenour.

"I've been on the bench for over 4 decades. I can’t remember another case where the question presented is as clear as this one. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order" - Judge Coughenour
 
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Well now that we see how inept the Democratic leadership is with how they go with nominees I think it's fair to say at this point those emails were probably just the tip of the iceberg.

They were clearly against Bernie in 2016 and clearly against him in 2020. I don't know if he could have won a 20/20 but he could have won in 2016.

The Democrats leadership is inept and corrupt. I can't wait till the primaries are over this year so I can leave the party. Can't stand these fuckers
Uh... Bernie ran in 2 open primaries and didn't improve on his vote share. It's pretty clear he wasn't resonating enough with the electorate. The leadership isn't choosing the winners and losers - it's voters in the primaries doing all the selecting.
 
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Uh... Bernie ran in 2 open primaries and didn't improve on his vote share. It's pretty clear he wasn't resonating enough with the electorate. The leadership isn't choosing the winners and losers - it's voters in the primaries doing all the selecting.
It was pretty clear in the emails that were released that there was brainstorming about how to defeat Bernie, including one about him being Jewish.

Now I didn't think it went much farther than that at first but considering what I've seen in the last 8 years from Democrats, I wouldn't put it past them at all at this point. It fits their style
 

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The idea that billionaires are a huge policy mistake that demands rectification really growing on me a lot these days.

They're definitely pushing too far too fast. A resulting "eat the rich" blowback is so easy to predict ... and Dimon's comments yesterday didn't exactly help.

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It was pretty clear in the emails that were released that there was brainstorming about how to defeat Bernie, including one about him being Jewish.

Now I didn't think it went much farther than that at first but considering what I've seen in the last 8 years from Democrats, I wouldn't put it past them at all at this point. It fits their style
But but but...

Where were the votes? If he was so popular, why didn't he win?

You can't pull the Trump defense by calling it rigged.
 
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MrSquished

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But but but...

Where were the votes? If he was so popular, why didn't he win?

You can't pull the Trump defense by calling it rigged.
Do you want me to post the verbiage of the emails that were released. Are you denying they showed intent to harm Bernie in the primary?

After seeing how the Democrats were deferential to Biden to screw us over this election, and seeing how they choose leadership positions such as screwing AOC for this guy who said well it was my turn!

It's pretty clear that Democratic party likes to control who gets into what positions.

I can post the emails and you can try to obfuscate if you want
 
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Do you want me to post the verbiage of the emails that were released. Are you denying they showed intent to harm Bernie in the primary?

After seeing how the Democrats were deferential to Biden to screw us over this election, and seeing how they choose leadership positions such as screwing AOC for this guy who said well it was my turn!

It's pretty clear that Democratic party likes to control who gets into what positions.

I can post the emails and you can try to obfuscate if you want
Great, you have some emails about shadowy conspiracies. Now where are the votes for Bernie? He's so popular, surely he could have gotten more votes in the primary, right?
 

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NBC Report - Emails sent to government workers at numerous agencies gave employees 10 days to report if a colleague's job relates to diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.
 

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NBC Report - Emails sent to government workers at numerous agencies gave employees 10 days to report if a colleague's job relates to diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.

Confirmed yesterday. DHS/DoS/DoD/DoJ/NASA ... almost exact wording across them all. You have 10 days to snitch, or else.
 
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NBC Report - Emails sent to government workers at numerous agencies gave employees 10 days to report if a colleague's job relates to diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.
The neo-segrationists are taking charge and trying to use people's petty grievances to rat each other out so that they can enforce their arbitrary firings to come.
 

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NBC Report - Emails sent to government workers at numerous agencies gave employees 10 days to report if a colleague's job relates to diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.
Damn, it must be wonderful to be a lawyer these days.
 

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Great, you have some emails about shadowy conspiracies. Now where are the votes for Bernie? He's so popular, surely he could have gotten more votes in the primary, right?
We can not know the effect of what the Democrats did to hurt Bernie, since it's clear they were brainstorming ways to hurt him in the primary. After seeing the Democrats in action the last eight years, I strongly believe they definitely did.
 
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We can not know the effect of what the Democrats did to hurt Bernie, since it's clear they were brainstorming ways to hurt him in the primary. After seeing the Democrats in action the last eight years, I strongly believe they definitely did.
The idea that "Dems in Disarray" could feasibly run some kind of hit job on Bernie is kind of laughable given how inept they've allegedly been in many other areas.

If Bernie was so popular, he would have gotten more votes.
 

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NBC Report - Emails sent to government workers at numerous agencies gave employees 10 days to report if a colleague's job relates to diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.
Every single federal employee’s job includes those things because the Civil Rights Act is the f’ing law.
 
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Great, you have some emails about shadowy conspiracies. Now where are the votes for Bernie? He's so popular, surely he could have gotten more votes in the primary, right?
The Bernie election truthers are almost as tiresome as the Trump election truthers.

Bernie lost fair and square both times and in both cases it wasn't close. As you say Bernie's problem was with the voters, not the DNC.
 

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The Bernie election truthers are almost as tiresome as the Trump election truthers.

Bernie lost fair and square both times and in both cases it wasn't close. As you say Bernie's problem was with the voters, not the DNC.
Yup, the majority of Americans fear the violent riots and the loss of freedom seen in most of the European countries, which Bernies policies promotes /s
 

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One of Trumps executive actions was to pretty much shut down the Health and Human Services department including the US Food and Drug Administration, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Institutes of Health.


The gag order is on and only "Godly goodthink" will be allowed? Science disagrees with his ‘gut’ feeling lol!

The attack on public health is so weird to me. Education, sure - stupid people are easily manipulated. Stupid people can still work and make money to send to Trump and his minions. Stupid, unhealthy people, not so much. How does a nation of sick people help them achieve their goals? Especially since the precious children they always talk about will suffer the most?

Maybe the pathology is sick people can’t fill the streets, protesting you creating embarrassing photos that the entire world will see?

Changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico because he doesn’t like Mexico or Mexicans is weird too. Not surprising when you think about it I guess.