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Better than Gitmo or El Salvador, I guess?


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David J. Bier (@davidjbier.bsky.social)

Unreal. The US government is dumping Asian and African families and children in random countries that they have no connection to. Dumping, not "deporting." Deportation implies the return of a person to their home country. This is treating people like toxic waste...
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Elon Musk thinks protecting nuclear weapons is "government waste".
Suppose he'll personally seize control of them soon enough.

Mass layoffs now paused at US nuclear weapons agency​

NNSA held an all-staff meeting Friday morning, announcing the DOE had agreed to pause the layoffs, due to the agency's national security mission.​
NNSA staff tell ABC News they are in a holding pattern. They're still bracing for firings, but possibly not as widespread.​
 
purbeast0 said:
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Aaaaaaaaah fucking dumbasses... err geniuses... nah idiots
 
You know it occurred to me that Musk and Trump are acting like typical CEO at an american company. Fire a bunch of people no matter the long term impact to the company (in this case the company is USA) so they can get a larger bonus.
 
I won't be surprised when the administration illegally fires the wrong people who feel they've been grievously wronged, might be loners with little support, know how to use firearms, and feel like they have nothing left to lose. They're certainly creating a lot of opportunity as they board up the government, fire people, and cut back on services.
 
So what is going to be the longer term effect of this indiscriminate, apparently rather random, downsizing of the Federal workforce? That they are firing every probationer (becuase, I guess, that gets round employment protection laws?) surely means there are going to be growing staff shortages across the entire Federal government? I would imagine that would accelerate over time as the increased workloads would lead to more older staff taking retirement (especially with these weird dodgy 'volunteer to quit' incentive schemes they are also offering), and thus the lack of staff would only get worse.

What puzzles me is that it appears to be pretty indiscriminate and untargetted, meaning there are going to be staffing problems in areas like "looking after nuclear materials and keeping them out of the hands of terrorists" as well as "collecting plutocrats' taxes" and "watching out for dodgy financial scams". It's that indiscriminate aspect of it that I don't get. Surely even Musk and his fellow plutocrats need some parts of government to be functional?

It's like some wild leap of neoliberal faith, that the market/private sector will always provide, so you just remove the government services and trust in God/The Private Sector, to step up and deal with the next pandemic, say. Or is there some other gameplan here, some 4d chess move that I'm missing?
 
pmv said:
So what is going to be the longer term effect of this indiscriminate, apparently rather random, downsizing of the Federal workforce? That they are firing every probationer (becuase, I guess, that gets round employment protection laws?) surely means there are going to be growing staff shortages across the entire Federal government? I would imagine that would accelerate over time as the increased workloads would lead to more older staff taking retirement (especially with these weird dodgy 'volunteer to quit' incentive schemes they are also offering), and thus the lack of staff would only get worse.

What puzzles me is that it appears to be pretty indiscriminate and untargetted, meaning there are going to be staffing problems in areas like "looking after nuclear materials and keeping them out of the hands of terrorists" as well as "collecting plutocrats' taxes" and "watching out for dodgy financial scams". It's that indiscriminate aspect of it that I don't get. Surely even Musk and his fellow plutocrats need some parts of government to be functional?

It's like some wild leap of neoliberal faith, that the market/private sector will always provide, so you just remove the government services and trust in God/The Private Sector, to step up and deal with the next pandemic, say. Or is there some other gameplan here, some 4d chess move that I'm missing?
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It's going to destroy state capacity to solve problems for years, and people are going to get ripped off or hurt in the meantime. The cruelty is the point. They have no grand plan. They're just assholes who got upset about being told to do a little self sacrifice during COVID and absolutely flipped their shit about bedtime.
 
pmv said:
So what is going to be the longer term effect of this indiscriminate, apparently rather random, downsizing of the Federal workforce? That they are firing every probationer (becuase, I guess, that gets round employment protection laws?) surely means there are going to be growing staff shortages across the entire Federal government? I would imagine that would accelerate over time as the increased workloads would lead to more older staff taking retirement (especially with these weird dodgy 'volunteer to quit' incentive schemes they are also offering), and thus the lack of staff would only get worse.

What puzzles me is that it appears to be pretty indiscriminate and untargetted, meaning there are going to be staffing problems in areas like "looking after nuclear materials and keeping them out of the hands of terrorists" as well as "collecting plutocrats' taxes" and "watching out for dodgy financial scams". It's that indiscriminate aspect of it that I don't get. Surely even Musk and his fellow plutocrats need some parts of government to be functional?

It's like some wild leap of neoliberal faith, that the market/private sector will always provide, so you just remove the government services and trust in God/The Private Sector, to step up and deal with the next pandemic, say. Or is there some other gameplan here, some 4d chess move that I'm missing?
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They just want to break shit, point at the broken shit, and say "WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN FIX THIS!"
Oh, also, they're going to blame all the broken things on Biden, Obama, and Clinton.
 
nakedfrog said:
They just want to break shit, point at the broken shit, and say "WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN FIX THIS!"
Oh, also, they're going to blame all the broken things on Biden, Obama, and Clinton.
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The US is going to collapse if they even do 50% of what they want. Eventually it will be too much to blame on anyone but them, save for the cultists.
 
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