Orange stain second term results thread

[Fenixgoon]

Thanks for the tax cut I guess?

 

[NWRMidnight]

80% are probably unaware of what's even in this bill.

Try 100% of them. I say that after spending 5 days with my very conservative Aunt and Uncle, who had fox news running non stop when the tv was on. They where addicted to it, eating up the lies and manipulation like it was candy. The lies and disturbing mental programming that came out of that tv was discusting. In fact, it made me think of this from BatMan Forever (start at 2:50 time stamp):

 

[Pens1566]

We're gonna need another thread now, just for the rural hospital closures.

 

[you2]

We're gonna need another thread now, just for the rural hospital closures.

The rural population voted this turd into office let them deal with the hospital colosures.

 

[amenx]

US $ taking a beating.

The US dollar is on track for its worst year in modern history

The greenback is down more than 7% this year, and Morgan Stanley predicts it could fall another 10%.

www.semafor.com

 

[RalphTheCow]

The rural population voted this turd into office let them deal with the hospital colosures.

Yeah, except my mother unfortunately is one of the few blue people in a ruby red area, so she gets to suffer too.

 

[RalphTheCow]

So wtf just happened? Trump twisted just about all the arms of Republican politicians to vote for the worst bill ever. Hopefully most will get tossed out of office. I know I told my congressidiot that I sure hope that happens to him.

Who even wrote this stupid thing? It sure feels like Trump did it just to get revenge on us all, just because he can.

 

[brycejones]

So wtf just happened? Trump twisted just about all the arms of Republican politicians to vote for the worst bill ever. Hopefully most will get tossed out of office. I know I told my congressidiot that I sure hope that happens to him.

Who even wrote this stupid thing? It sure feels like Trump did it just to get revenge on us all, just because he can.

Key industries of the future have been effectively kneecapped by the government. Solar is fucked in the US, EVs are fucked, since EVs are fucked US automakers are really screwed. The Chinese are going to eat our lunch globally. We will borrow trillions of dollars to give directly to billionaires while making the poorest Americans poorer. Also they fucked higher education and the path to higher education for anyone not already upper middle class.

 

[cytg111]

Key industries of the future have been effectively kneecapped by the government. Solar is fucked in the US, EVs are fucked, since EVs are fucked US automakers are really screwed. The Chinese are going to eat our lunch globally. We will borrow trillions of dollars to give directly to billionaires while making the poorest Americans poorer. Also they fucked higher education and the path to higher education for anyone not already upper middle class.

Zeihan had a piece some time back, that if you were an foreign agent trying to dismantle America you would be hard pressed to do a better job than what Trump is doing.

 

[RalphTheCow]

I wish Murkowski had had the balls to stick her fingers in trumps eyes and vote no. She has to be well enough off to just say screw this job and if he primaried her, so what.

 

[HomerJS]

GOP MAGAt posted this

 

[Brainonska511]

I wish Murkowski had had the balls to stick her fingers in trumps eyes and vote no. She has to be well enough off to just say screw this job and if he primaried her, so what.

I think we should also stop acting like there are "moderate" Republicans. They're all bad and evil people for supporting the stuff they voted for. I don't care one bit for their theatrical and symbolic hand-wringing. They're all US Senators who were elected to office by their constituents. They aren't some smol bean nobodies. They could grow a spine and stand up for their beliefs, they could resign in protest, or they can vote how they're going to vote and show us their true colors.

As far as other theatrics: look at Susan Collins, who came to the Senate as a fairly right-wing person (for the time) and has watched the party shift further right under her (thus becoming a de facto "moderate" [LOL]). Sure, she didn't vote for the bill, but she was instrumental in voting to bring the bill to the Senate floor for consideration. I'd take a dozen Joe Manchins over the Murkowskis and Collinses.

 

[esquared]

van orden:

This coward can't even stand up for what he voted for/believes in.
Cowardly magarat deleted his post.
Fuck you for wanting to starve kids and their families.

 

[Brainonska511]

van orden:

This coward can't even stand up for what he voted for/believes in.
Cowardly magarat deleted his post.
Fuck you for wanting to starve kids and their families.

The other weird stuff they've been touting as an excuse to throw people off their insurance: imaginary 29-year-old men who are living at home playing video games all day and using tons of Medicaid. Because young, able-bodied men are known for paying close attention to their health and going to the doctor all the time.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The other weird stuff they've been touting as an excuse to throw people off their insurance: imaginary 29-year-old men who are living at home playing video games all day and using tons of Medicaid.

This is what's incredible about their claims. No one challenges them with calls to offer proof for their extraordinary claims. So playing videogames is now punishable by loss of medical insurance? Who are these mofos? Were they born after their moms were raped by Satan?

 

[igor_kavinski]

van orden:

Frickin' Virgo. Gets orgasms thinking about ways to save money, regardless of the consequences.

 

[you2]

Making America Beautiful Again by Improving Our National Parks

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Policy.

www.whitehouse.gov

And in exchange for this propaganda we will take the budget from national parks to publish it:

(d) The costs for publication of this order shall be borne by the Department of the Interior.

 

[pmv]

I always get the same tired it's an urban/rural divide - it won't work. Well shit, these are the same people that were also sure Biden was the best candidate to put forward and that the Dem establishment would be a good opposition party. And they were horribly wrong about those crucial issues. And they are wrong about this.

But it's probably true, though, that it's an urban/rural thing, and hence splitting by state won't work. And I think that, even though I didn't think Biden was the best candidate.

I was depressed that the Dems went with Biden. Heck, I was depressed they opted for him in 2020 - arguably he proved me wrong by winning, but then again, he only lasted one term, because he could win, but couldn't seriously change anything...I felt even before the last election here that Starmer is going to go the same way, and so far that seems to be looking very likely, as he's bloody useless. I hate the sight of him at this point. Simultaneously grey and macho, he looks like John Major after he's been overinflated with a bicycle pump.

I sometimes fantasize about a split here, I wish the provincial rural and small-town types would sail off into their Brexity future under whichever public-school toff they prefer to doff their caps to. But it's not remotely a realistic idea - I don't see London surviving as a city state (where would it get food and water from? And anyway, I'd then be stuck with all the City banker types) and still less can I see how you could make a nation out of London plus the other major urban areas, with a different country in between.

I don't see any solutions, either here or in the US. Just have to hang on and try and survive while the world goes where it wants to go. Kind of echoes how I don't see any solution to any of my personal problems either (such as my multitude of health issues that I can't get any good treatment for). Some problems just don't have solutions in this world.

 

[IronWing]

The two national park orders from yesterday were a whole lot of words to say that snowmobiles will be allowed in Yellowstone again with no restrictions.

 

[DZero]

The two national park orders from yesterday were a whole lot of words to say that snowmobiles will be allowed in Yellowstone again with no restrictions.

RIP National parks, some species will be extinguished or even captured for private zoos.

 

[MrSquished]

But it's probably true, though, that it's an urban/rural thing, and hence splitting by state won't work. And I think that, even though I didn't think Biden was the best candidate.

I was depressed that the Dems went with Biden. Heck, I was depressed they opted for him in 2020 - arguably he proved me wrong by winning, but then again, he only lasted one term, because he could win, but couldn't seriously change anything...I felt even before the last election here that Starmer is going to go the same way, and so far that seems to be looking very likely, as he's bloody useless. I hate the sight of him at this point. Simultaneously grey and macho, he looks like John Major after he's been overinflated with a bicycle pump.

I sometimes fantasize about a split here, I wish the provincial rural and small-town types would sail off into their Brexity future under whichever public-school toff they prefer to doff their caps to. But it's not remotely a realistic idea - I don't see London surviving as a city state (where would it get food and water from? And anyway, I'd then be stuck with all the City banker types) and still less can I see how you could make a nation out of London plus the other major urban areas, with a different country in between.

I don't see any solutions, either here or in the US. Just have to hang on and try and survive while the world goes where it wants to go. Kind of echoes how I don't see any solution to any of my personal problems either (such as my multitude of health issues that I can't get any good treatment for). Some problems just don't have solutions in this world.

But then you're just ignoring the fact there is blue States and Red states too, there's also that divide. You work with what you have and the blue state red State separation is a very solid thing to work with. In what world are you going to have a perfect split where everybody all supports the same party in one geographic region. It's a stupid measurement.

If you want a side with those people you're basically saying, well there's nothing we can do we're all going to have to live under fascism because the states cannot resist the federal government for too long.

I think that's terrible.

 

[gothuevos]

Happy 4th

 

[manly]

I think we should also stop acting like there are "moderate" Republicans. They're all bad and evil people for supporting the stuff they voted for. I don't care one bit for their theatrical and symbolic hand-wringing. They're all US Senators who were elected to office by their constituents. They aren't some smol bean nobodies. They could grow a spine and stand up for their beliefs, they could resign in protest, or they can vote how they're going to vote and show us their true colors.

As far as other theatrics: look at Susan Collins, who came to the Senate as a fairly right-wing person (for the time) and has watched the party shift further right under her (thus becoming a de facto "moderate" [LOL]). Sure, she didn't vote for the bill, but she was instrumental in voting to bring the bill to the Senate floor for consideration. I'd take a dozen Joe Manchins over the Murkowskis and Collinses.

and yet there were dudes here that swore they'd rather have the absolute certainty of a GOP Senator than having to horse-trade with Joe Manchin to get legislation across the line. 🤣 Mind-boggling buffoonery.

 

[esquared]

And from the Atlantic.
The syphilitic orange menace's flat out bribes.

Welcome to the Mafia Presidency​

That’s a nice business you’ve got there.

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[iRONic]

Steal a little & they throw you in jail steal a lot and they make you king.