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Optical (semi-invisible) camouflage footage!

True active camouflage won't work. Each pixel would have to be 3d, with a different image shown to every angle that looks at it.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
think we'll have cloaking devices (visual at least, if not radar, etc) by 2050?
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the problem with good cloaking device is that you coudn't see whats going on
 
Originally posted by: ndee
if this guys holds this ball. Why isn't HE shown if the ball is "semi-invisible"?
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saw this yesterday. my guess is the ball/clothing/block is made up wutever it is to make the 'camouflage'... it wouldnt make sense if someone was wearing clothing that you could see through that but also see his skin...
 
I saw this a long time ago. US military is experimenting with this sort of thing. They have entire suits, armored tanks wrapped in Optical Fibers. With small cameras around the object in the suit/armor that's actively taking pictures and project the image through the optical fiber. Final product makes the camoflaged object look like a heatwave. How they got opticle fiber to be that flexible or how they actually dispatched the fiber to show continuous image, i'm not certain. But i remember a support pack was needed if it was on the suit version. The pack processed the image and provided power and was about 10" by 15" by 8". Pretty good. It was a special on Non Leathal Weapons and Technology.
 
Originally posted by: johneetrash
Originally posted by: ndee
if this guys holds this ball. Why isn't HE shown if the ball is "semi-invisible"?
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saw this yesterday. my guess is the ball/clothing/block is made up wutever it is to make the 'camouflage'... it wouldnt make sense if someone was wearing clothing that you could see through that but also see his skin...
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but how can it display the cupboard behind the person? Why doesn't it show the wall?
 
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: johneetrash
Originally posted by: ndee
if this guys holds this ball. Why isn't HE shown if the ball is "semi-invisible"?
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saw this yesterday. my guess is the ball/clothing/block is made up wutever it is to make the 'camouflage'... it wouldnt make sense if someone was wearing clothing that you could see through that but also see his skin...
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but how can it display the cupboard behind the person? Why doesn't it show the wall?
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Because it can't see the wall. It works by showing the image read from a camera on the cloth.
 
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: johneetrash
Originally posted by: ndee
if this guys holds this ball. Why isn't HE shown if the ball is "semi-invisible"?
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saw this yesterday. my guess is the ball/clothing/block is made up wutever it is to make the 'camouflage'... it wouldnt make sense if someone was wearing clothing that you could see through that but also see his skin...
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but how can it display the cupboard behind the person? Why doesn't it show the wall?
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it doesn't "see" through things. it merely reflects what's behind the person.

i wonder if this will be able to be done w/o so much equipment.
 
My cousin is not impressed. He said, "it looks someone with a film projector is shining on him thats all."
Looking at it again. He got a point.
 
Originally posted by: Jgtdragon
My cousin is not impressed. He said, "it looks someone with a film projector is shining on him thats all."
Looking at it again. He got a point.
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If this were true then the projection would also be on the guys face, which it isn't, check out the videos if you haven't.
 
If the projection wasn't very bright, it might be masked by the room lights, until it hit something reflective, like the shiny material.
 
Originally posted by: Jgtdragon
My cousin is not impressed. He said, "it looks someone with a film projector is shining on him thats all."
Looking at it again. He got a point.
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That is essentially what is going on, but the background image is projected onto the display the viewer is wearing.


To everyone else in the room, the guy is just wearing a silverish jacket.
 
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
True active camouflage won't work. Each pixel would have to be 3d, with a different image shown to every angle that looks at it.
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It can be done, but active camo will still work just fine, even if it isn't perfect. It is still worlds apart from the standard army issue camo the troops use nowdays.
My cousin is not impressed. He said, "it looks someone with a film projector is shining on him thats all."
Looking at it again. He got a point.
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That's what i thought, but then i noticed that his glasses don't reflect it. Not to mention the rest of his body.
 
Originally posted by: Placer14
I saw this a long time ago. US military is experimenting with this sort of thing. They have entire suits, armored tanks wrapped in Optical Fibers. With small cameras around the object in the suit/armor that's actively taking pictures and project the image through the optical fiber. Final product makes the camoflaged object look like a heatwave. How they got opticle fiber to be that flexible or how they actually dispatched the fiber to show continuous image, i'm not certain. But i remember a support pack was needed if it was on the suit version. The pack processed the image and provided power and was about 10" by 15" by 8". Pretty good. It was a special on Non Leathal Weapons and Technology.
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Yep, military is researching into these camouflage suits. Think of the possibilities that can be done if your enemies cannot see you.
 
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