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[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Phluxed
RussianSensation, dual core isn't useless for gaming? It's been proven that running the background processors off the one core and a primary application (game for instance) off another certainly increases performence. In about every benchmark I've seen the dual core is dominating the single core.

That is correct -- But only if your graphics card is fast enough to handle the game in the first place. X800GTO isnt. That's my whole point.

The problem is with most current games, graphics card is far more bottlenecked than the cpu. In fact it is so bottlenecked, I will go as far as to say CPU speed for current first person shooters does not matter as long as you are not chugging on a P4 1.6ghz.

FEAR - A64 2.8ghz vs. 1.4ghz - 15% difference (not noticeable)
Battlefield 2 - P4 3.8ghz vs. 2.8ghz - 1 frame difference (not noticeable)
Quake 4 - A64 2.8ghz vs. A64 1.8ghz - less than 1 frame difference (not noticeable)

I can't think of 1 game where even having dual core will all of a sudden give respectable framerates, but prior to having dual core, the game is unplayble (not while multitasking). Now you might say...whoa...that's the whole point of dual core - it provides advantages of multitasking and playing a game. Sure, but why even bother until you have maximized your graphics card? It would only make sense if you have a very good card, or a game takes advantage of dual core - which at this point doesnt exist to substantially take any advantage.

The point is A64 3000+ with 7800GTX will be much faster than A64 4800+ X2 and X800GTO at any speed even unlocked. The original poster decided to spend $300 on a processor and $245 on 2 gigs of ram and $179 on the graphics card = $724

What about?
A64 3200+ Retail Box - $152
EVGA 7800GTX - $460
Rosewill 1GB (2 x 512MB) $78 x 2 = $156
= $768 total. Ok $44 difference, but the performance difference will be massive. Plus A64 3200+ will easily overclock to 2.5-2.6ghz.

Again, I do not understand the importance of getting Gskill extreme memory? Memory speed hardly affects A64 - latency is often more important Hardly worth the extra $ in my opinion.

 

[ribbon13]

The monitor is indeed 6bit/channel, which in reality is limited to 262k colors (6 bits = 64 choices per color, so total == 64 * 64 * 64 = 262144)

But don't worry, this is common for ALL lcds with fast G2G ratings. Anything reporting less than 16ms is definately 6-bit. Change the settings to 16-bit color in your game, and tell me if you can really notice right away.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: Phluxed
RussianSensation, dual core isn't useless for gaming? It's been proven that running the background processors off the one core and a primary application (game for instance) off another certainly increases performence. In about every benchmark I've seen the dual core is dominating the single core.

That is correct -- But only if your graphics card is fast enough to handle the game in the first place. X800GTO isnt. That's my whole point.

um, yes it is. the primary reason why people get the gto is because it has a near 100% success rate on softmodding to x850xt pe. its the best bang for the buck video card you can get nowadays.

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: Phluxed
RussianSensation, dual core isn't useless for gaming? It's been proven that running the background processors off the one core and a primary application (game for instance) off another certainly increases performence. In about every benchmark I've seen the dual core is dominating the single core.

That is correct -- But only if your graphics card is fast enough to handle the game in the first place. X800GTO isnt. That's my whole point.

um, yes it is. the primary reason why people get the gto is because it has a near 100% success rate on softmodding to x850xt pe. its the best bang for the buck video card you can get nowadays.

Incorrect! That's Sapphire GT02 w/100% success on 16 pipes, and 90% on X850 XT speeds and somewhat of a chance for XT PE

While the Connect3D GTO can be modded, to X850 XT PE is completely out of the question. It's only an R423 core while GTO2 is R480

 

[eXx08]

BUMP

Exchaged 2GB for 7800GT now with 1GB RAM

 

[ribbon13]

Anyways, since this is an xmas present, when is it going to be ordered? You realize prices will probably changed by the time actually do order it right?

 

[Phluxed]

If they haven't already changed

The change to the 7800GT is a very good choice. It is the card I'm planning on getting. I recommend the CO version from EVGA. Comes overclocked out of the box and gets some decent speeds. Plus the black heatsink looks sexy

 

[eXx08]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Anyways, since this is an xmas present, when is it going to be ordered? You realize prices will probably changed by the time actually do order it right?

Yea hopefully black friday I can order them

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
The monitor is indeed 6bit/channel, which in reality is limited to 262k colors (6 bits = 64 choices per color, so total == 64 * 64 * 64 = 262144)

But don't worry, this is common for ALL lcds with fast G2G ratings. Anything reporting less than 16ms is definately 6-bit. Change the settings to 16-bit color in your game, and tell me if you can really notice right away.

Hmm, the 2005fpw reports 12ms gtog and 16ms btow and it's a 9-bit panel as far as I know (based on web reports and reviews)

-spike

 

[w00t]

I think you had the right choice going in the 1st place the only thing i would of changed is that monitor other than that your specs are good the reason why he is getting that ram is to oc guys that is the main point of getting that opteron it oc's like crazy its a higher grade quality than the athlon and x2's.

if you are looking into monitors here are a couple you might like:
2405fpw
2005fpw
2001fp

 

[eXx08]

Originally posted by: w00t


if you are looking into monitors here are a couple you might like:
2405fpw
2005fpw
2001fp

I WISH!

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: thekillerjks

Originally posted by: w00t


if you are looking into monitors here are a couple you might like:
2405fpw
2005fpw
2001fp

I WISH!

what monitor do you have right now?

 

[w00t]

if your going to get a 7800gt there is no point of getting that monitor its a waste max res is 1280 x 1024.