Opteron 165 (Same Thread Only New Name)

[eXx08]

OK, I have my specs posted below, but I'm thinking it may be too much money for my dad to spend on me for Christmas. So, should I toss the X2 and get a 3700+ or toss the 2GB and get 1 stick? Or what do you think I should do with the specs listed. I need to lower about 1 to 2 hundred but I need to stay with the LCD because my dad says that is the only one he will buy cause he likes it so much.

Monitor:
Acer A1751B @ TD $229.99

CPU:
AMD Opteron 165

HDD:
Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 SATA2 @ Newegg $102.50

Video Card:
eVGA GeForce 7800GT

Memory:
G. SKILL Extreme Series 1GB

Total comes to $1121.11 w/ shipping

Tha's a little mroe than I wanted to pay but for a 7800GT I think it's worth it.

 

[Lawrence3G]

would be my next upgrade...to the Athlon64 X2 dual core...I would like to know from people who have purchased this processor...about its features...what are the pros and cons?

 

[ChiBOY83]

well, to actually answeryour question, i would DEFENITLY get the dual core now....its so much easier to upgrade to an extra gig later, then upgrade the processors..... also, you are not really guna see a noticable hit not having ram run in dual channel...


...also, id consider lookin into dell, you cna get a 19 inch LCD for about 50$ more than what you have...its good quality, not top of the line for gaming, but its good. im not sure how it comparea to that choice that you have there.

 

[CalamitySymphony]

I don't think anything you listed would be my first choice:

LCD: I would get a 19inch like chibBOY said.
Mobo: ??
Memory: Absolutely NOT. Get value RAM for about $75 for a gig.
Processor: Fine, but check the HOT DEALS for the Dual Core Opteron, running for $299. 2x the Cache, better quality, and almost guaranteed to overclock better.
HD: fine
Win XP:?? You are sure you cannot find this anywhere else cheaper... or should I say MUCH cheaper?
GPU: Good choice

 

[eXx08]

Alright I Completely Changed My Mind I Am Going to Make A New Post

EDIT: Anandtech Moderators thought I was cluttering the Forums so they Locked it, Now I'm back to this one.

 

[ribbon13]

Get one stick of 1GB DDR500 and an Opteron 165 (or here)

YGPM

 

[ChiBOY83]

Originally posted by: thekillerjks
Alright I Completely Changed My Mind I Am Going to Make A New Post

HAHAHAHAHA...that was FAST......

however, let me add that i do like your hard drive choice. I have a hitachi t7K250 160 gig and its quite impressive.....

 

[Philippine Mango]

You do realize that your getting a 262,000 color monitor, right? Oh and the Dual core VS ram arguement, neither will benefit you significantly so you could technically just not get either and opt for a better LCD. And what are you talking about your dad liking the "LCD so much"? There are tons of LCD monitors that are better that look the same, I think hes just being stupid... Explain to him the problem with the monitor and why you should opt for a better monitor. I personally believe you should get by with a cheap athlon 64 and upgrade to an X2 when they get a bit faster...

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: ChiBOY83
well, to actually answeryour question, i would DEFENITLY get the dual core now....its so much easier to upgrade to an extra gig later, then upgrade the processors..... also, you are not really guna see a noticable hit not having ram run in dual channel...


...also, id consider lookin into dell, you cna get a 19 inch LCD for about 50$ more than what you have...its good quality, not top of the line for gaming, but its good. im not sure how it comparea to that choice that you have there.

bleh, it's 19 inch, 19 inch monitors look like shyt compared to 17" and 20" monitors...

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
You do realize that your getting a 262,000 color monitor, right? Oh and the Dual core VS ram arguement, neither will benefit you significantly so you could technically just not get either and opt for a better LCD. And what are you talking about your dad liking the "LCD so much"? There are tons of LCD monitors that are better that look the same, I think hes just being stupid... Explain to him the problem with the monitor and why you should opt for a better monitor. I personally believe you should get by with a cheap athlon 64 and upgrade to an X2 when they get a bit faster...

You mean cheaper right? 2.4GHz per core at the top models (Opteron 180 / X2 4800) is nothing to sneeze at. At all.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: ribbon13

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
You do realize that your getting a 262,000 color monitor, right? Oh and the Dual core VS ram arguement, neither will benefit you significantly so you could technically just not get either and opt for a better LCD. And what are you talking about your dad liking the "LCD so much"? There are tons of LCD monitors that are better that look the same, I think hes just being stupid... Explain to him the problem with the monitor and why you should opt for a better monitor. I personally believe you should get by with a cheap athlon 64 and upgrade to an X2 when they get a bit faster...

You mean cheaper right? 2.4GHz per core at the top models (Opteron 180 / X2 4800) is nothing to sneeze at. At all.

? I'm not sure if this will answer your question but I thought the OP should just get like a 3000+, overclock it and then later, get a DUAL CORE and his 2GB of ram tho he will likely have to bump this thread again and ask the question BECAUSE the following could happen in the future first; Either Dual core will be utilized greatly in games or 2GB of ram will be required, but ATM neither is really needed except 2GB of ram for Battle Field 2 under specific settings like highest for example. I run battle field 2 on relatively high settings with 1GB of ram and I've got no problems.

 

[Vegito]

memory doesn't drop as fast as processor price... because they dont introduce new memory type every 2 month...

 

[eXx08]

alright will a opteron 165 work in my MSI K8N-Neo4/SLI

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: thekillerjks
alright will a opteron 165 work in my MSI K8N-Neo4/SLI

No, you need a socket 939 processor and thats socket 940. Opteron is not a gaming processor/platform. Get a better LCD monitor dude, you can get a used LCD monitor thats better than that one, although the timings won't be as good, it will at least display 16.7 million colors...

 

[Markfw]

The Opteron 165 IS a 939 pin chip.

 

[eXx08]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: thekillerjks
alright will a opteron 165 work in my MSI K8N-Neo4/SLI

No, you need a socket 939 processor and thats socket 940. Opteron is not a gaming processor/platform. Get a better LCD monitor dude, you can get a used LCD monitor thats better than that one, although the timings won't be as good, it will at least display 16.7 million colors...

Opteron 165 is 939, not 940

I will look for a better LCD

 

[RussianSensation]

What's this machine for? If you are aiming for a gaming rig, dual core is useless, and 2 gig of ram is useless with that videocard. Plus 17 inch monitor is not optimal for gaming either.

I'd look into:

$100 mobo like DFI Infiniti or something along those lines, no SLI
A64 3200+ or 3500+ and overclock that
19 inch monitor
2 gig of value ram (but 1 gig is sufficient for now)
7800GT and overclock that
I am sure you can get a hard drive for cheaper with a mail in rebate too.

If you are not looking for gaming, then your setup is pretty good. But i'd buy a $50 videocard then.

 

[eXx08]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
You do realize that your getting a 262,000 color monitor, right?

Were did you get this idea from? On the Acer site it say up to 16.7 million colors.

http://us.acer.com/acerpanam/page9.do?d...&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&crc=1212147826

 

[Phluxed]

RussianSensation, dual core isn't useless for gaming? It's been proven that running the background processors off the one core and a primary application (game for instance) off another certainly increases performence. In about every benchmark I've seen the dual core is dominating the single core.

 

[eXx08]

Originally posted by: Phluxed
RussianSensation, dual core isn't useless for gaming? It's been proven that running the background processors off the one core and a primary application (game for instance) off another certainly increases performence. In about every benchmark I've seen the dual core is dominating the single core.

^^^^^EXACTLY^^^^^

Plus they said I can get a 2.6GHz overclock on stock cooling!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[eXx08]

EDIT: NEW CHOICES ON FIRST POST

 

[eXx08]

Any opinions on the new chioces?

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: thekillerjks
Any opinions on the new chioces?

I know nothing about the monitor you chose (I'm more of a 2005FPW man but that's obviously out of your price range ), but everything else looks good to me.

 

[aatf510]

Originally posted by: Phluxed
RussianSensation, dual core isn't useless for gaming? It's been proven that running the background processors off the one core and a primary application (game for instance) off another certainly increases performence. In about every benchmark I've seen the dual core is dominating the single core.

Show me the benchmark? (Plz don't show Quake4 benchmark since it's SMP).
Also, could someone tell me what's the differences between a s939 Opteron and s939 A64?

 

[eXx08]

Originally posted by: toattett

Originally posted by: Phluxed
RussianSensation, dual core isn't useless for gaming? It's been proven that running the background processors off the one core and a primary application (game for instance) off another certainly increases performence. In about every benchmark I've seen the dual core is dominating the single core.

Also, could someone tell me what's the differences between a s939 Opteron and s939 A64?

Opteron overclocks a ton better, the one I am getting is dual core with 2x 1MB Cache @ 1.8GHz and I will overclock it to 2.2GHz on stock cooling.