Opinons on Ford and its future

[PricklyPete]

Did anyone see that Lincoln Sales were not only better than expected..but actually better than May last year? I get the feeling that a lot of older conservatives are "rewarding" ford for not needing bailout money.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Did anyone see that Lincoln Sales were not only better than expected..but actually better than May last year? I get the feeling that a lot of older conservatives are "rewarding" ford for not needing bailout money.

their product line is also better. i see mark, er, MKSes all over the place

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Did anyone see that Lincoln Sales were not only better than expected..but actually better than May last year? I get the feeling that a lot of older conservatives are "rewarding" ford for not needing bailout money.

their product line is also better. i see mark, er, MKSes all over the place

Agreed..it is much better than before (although that crossover based on the FLEX that is coming out soon looks hideous in my eyes).

 

[sandorski]

An interesting developement regarding GM's Opel in Europe is likely to help Ford. The Canadian Auto Parts giant that has purchased a large portion of Opel will be designing an Electric Vehicle with Ford. That's what I've heard anyway. Not sure how that will work as GM is still a Major Shareholder of Opel

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: sactoking
Ford is in a pretty good position to compete, but every Ford product I've ever driven has been a steaming pile of garbage, so it looks like I'll be a Toyota guy for a while.

The 2009 Fusion(what I own) is good car. The 2010 is a spectacular car. Still glad I bought my '09 in Jan as I got a far better deal on it than I could have gotten on any for since that time.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Pulsar
Ford is already starting to have difficulty competing against GM and Chrysler. How, you might ask?

Well, one way is that GMAC, (owned by Cerberus and now the gov. as well) has been designated a 'bank'. That means they can get loans from the gov. around prime. Which means they get charged 2-3% interest right now, while Ford Finance is getting nailed with 7-9%.

Another way: You now have the UAW invested in both GM and Chrysler. How, exactly is Ford going to manage to get a fair Union bargain in the next negotiations when the UAW has a vested interest in GM and Chrysler beating Ford?

HOWEVER, Ford is doing fine. We have more powertrain launches in the next year than every before. Our new small engines (boosted and turboed) kick absolute ass - 350+ horsepower at 25+ mpg... yeah we can do that. On non-premium fuel.

Our cars are looking better than ever. The new Taurus in 2010 is totally kick-ass and looks it (finally). The other new vehicles, like the hybrids and the new Fusion Plug-In in 2011 with a 100 mile range is going to rock too.

We're doing better. Thank god for Bill Ford, Alan Mulally, and Mark Fields. Thank Bill for knowing he was in over his head and getting Mark and Alan. Thank Mark and Alan for seeming knowing how to place product ahead of quanity.

There is nothing stopping Ford from applying to become a bank holding company.
They are free to do that and will get approval from the FED.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: sactoking
Ford is in a pretty good position to compete, but every Ford product I've ever driven has been a steaming pile of garbage, so it looks like I'll be a Toyota guy for a while.

The 2009 Fusion(what I own) is good car. The 2010 is a spectacular car. Still glad I bought my '09 in Jan as I got a far better deal on it than I could have gotten on any for since that time.

I saw a new Fiesta on the road a few days ago, it's a good looking car. The Focus also shouldn't be missed. The Escape is one of the top small SUVs out there.

Ford is producing nice products right now.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
I will say this about Ford. Before this whole bailout mess, I would have never considered buying a Ford. Now, they are the only American car company I will ever consider purchasing from.

I was and am a big fan of ford, but this bailout mess does make me respect them more as a company.

 

[nitrousninja]

Ford seems to be doing really well. I bought a 2009 Ford Fusion with my X-Plan and got 0% for five years and extended the full warranty. My buddy who sold me the car said they sold 18 cars that day and 22 the saturday before. Thats double what they used to do. Things are really picking up for them.

If you make cars people want to buy they will buy them. It's crazy I know.

 

[piasabird]

Everyone should consider buying a foreign car.

I think it is totally illegal to force dealerships down. I think instead we should separate the dealerships from manufacturers and let them all sink or swim on their own. I think we should also separate these other entities like GM Credit from the car dealerships. This all smacks of Collusion and monopolistic power.

 

[Arkaign]

Ford is definitely making vast strides. I've got an '08 Focus S, basic stripped model, had it since last February, and I've put 26k miles on it, zero problems and outstanding fuel economy. Drives really nice too.

 

[PingSpike]

I see a ton of Fusions around now. They do look like pretty nice sedans.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I see a ton of Fusions around now. They do look like pretty nice sedans.

I don't love the huge chrome grill on the new one...but overall I think it is one of the better cars in its segment looks-wise.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I see a ton of Fusions around now. They do look like pretty nice sedans.

I have had 2-3 rentals this past year with the vehicle. Not a complaint
On one, I put 400 miles in 2 days - not a sore butt at all.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I see a ton of Fusions around now. They do look like pretty nice sedans.

I don't love the huge chrome grill on the new one...but overall I think it is one of the better cars in its segment looks-wise.

At first I was the same, but I warmed to it. It looks pretty sharp in person(atleast on black). Ford really does need to to a better redesign of the rear though. The '10 isnt much of an improvement on the '09.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I see a ton of Fusions around now. They do look like pretty nice sedans.

I don't love the huge chrome grill on the new one...but overall I think it is one of the better cars in its segment looks-wise.

I'll take that grille over the old tail lights