By "meth" I'm assuming you mean Methadone (like the OP said) and not methamphetamine. Methadone is normally used to treat people with opiate addiction, but it's no slouch itself in terms of effects or addiction (some actually find it harder to quit methadone than heroin).
By "meth" I'm assuming you mean Methadone (like the OP said) and not methamphetamine. Methadone is normally used to treat people with opiate addiction, but it's no slouch itself in terms of effects or addiction (some actually find it harder to quit methadone than heroin).
any withdrawal from serious addiction can potentinally kill you, as your body is used to the substance and craves it, it can cause heart arrythmias (most common), breathing problems and multiple other organ failures. throwing t-waves was a pretty common occurrence on an ekg, which was always a nice trip to the er for them
But yeah suboxone/subutex is fairly helpful. The WD from them is much less.
One thing I find funny is that people will do oxy/methadone/fennies yet will hate on heroin and say "I'll never do that". I dont see much difference in them, and I've done most everything (no shooting though, thats a whole another road to go down).
But anyway, I've blabbed a lot, maybe cause I'm on a lil sum something
, but now you guys know where I got my username from heh.
One thing I find funny is that people will do oxy/methadone/fennies yet will hate on heroin and say "I'll never do that". I dont see much difference in them, and I've done most everything (no shooting though, thats a whole another road to go down).
But anyway, I've blabbed a lot, maybe cause I'm on a lil sum something
, but now you guys know where I got my username from heh.Originally posted by: duragezic
But yeah suboxone/subutex is fairly helpful. The WD from them is much less.
One thing I find funny is that people will do oxy/methadone/fennies yet will hate on heroin and say "I'll never do that". I dont see much difference in them, and I've done most everything (no shooting though, thats a whole another road to go down).
But anyway, I've blabbed a lot, maybe cause I'm on a lil sum something
my personal favorites are the people who pick up their duragesic/fentanyl patches from the pharmacy and proceed to tell us how to get the fentanyl out of the patch for direct injestion by the method of their choice....they seem to think that just cuz i can give them the patches, i abuse them and won't mind calling their docs to let them know how their patients are using the meds
never fails to amuse me
no worries, im not askin for sympathy just anyone who has gone through the same
ya i've seen my friend go thru xanax withdrawal a number of times when his script ran out, he would freak out a lot, panic to the point he could have gone into shock or something.
the opiates just really make my body hurt a lot, puke, diarea, really bad nausia all the time. my doctor scripted me xanax 0.50 mg two times a day, with about twice that dose at night i can go to sleep hah. oh well, im not touchin opiates ever again after this lol. a lot of it is in your head too.
yea the methadone was the worst, thats what i was taking for a while and i had to switch over to oxy for 2 weeks, b/c i figured the shorter the better.. immodium has helped me greatly, it is an opiate it self but only works peripherally, it took about 25% of the pain away somehow i feel too. the weed helps me a lot with nausea.
Originally posted by: duragezic
But yeah suboxone/subutex is fairly helpful. The WD from them is much less.
One thing I find funny is that people will do oxy/methadone/fennies yet will hate on heroin and say "I'll never do that". I dont see much difference in them, and I've done most everything (no shooting though, thats a whole another road to go down).
But anyway, I've blabbed a lot, maybe cause I'm on a lil sum something
i had heard about suboxone, but my never asked my doc for it... figured i just deserved to go through the withdrawal
enjoy that fent
You worked there. No offense, but you didn't experience it. I've experienced it both. I feel fully qualified to say benzo withdrawal was worse.
Methadone -- at least for me -- was the sh1ttiest high, and it made me entirely nauseous and fatigued for quite awhile. MSContin was nasty as well.
skyking
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- Nov 21, 2001
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Man, all I can say is I'm thankful to never have enough pain to get started on that stuff. <knocks on wood>.
The one time I took something strong, it was for wisdom teeth pain. I took one pill and it had nasty side affects, made me angry! I tossed the rest and took aspirin.
Best of luck to you OP. Get some gatoraide or other electrolyte replacement drink, it will help you feel better. All that running is taking a toll on your hydration and electrolytes.
The one time I took something strong, it was for wisdom teeth pain. I took one pill and it had nasty side affects, made me angry! I tossed the rest and took aspirin.
Best of luck to you OP. Get some gatoraide or other electrolyte replacement drink, it will help you feel better. All that running is taking a toll on your hydration and electrolytes.
MrDudeMan
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- Jan 15, 2001
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for telling the truth? you people are insane if this makes someone a complete and utter dickhead. there are tons of things that could have been said and would have sounded a lot worse. what would you call those people? uber total complete dickheads?
the OP said in the next post he doesnt care because it keeps him motivated, so obviously he agrees it wasnt a wise choice. you must be a drug addict or were in the past to get that offended by the blatant truth that drugs are stupid and people who do them are even more stupid.
Thanks you for your insightful and original views on drug use, which none of us have ever heard from anyone before. I'm going to go out right now and tell everyone I know that drugs are stupid and people who take them are stupid. Maybe then people will see how morally superior I am to them, and they will finally like me.
I feel your pain man.....literally. I was up to 20 to 24 10mg (10/325) Hydrocodone (Norco) a.k.a. Lortab, some call it Vicodin I suppose. I'd been on the stuff for a little under 5 years. 12 10mg pills a day was a "good" day where I could "control" it.
On top of that I was going through a divorce/ugly custody battle and got pretty depressed so this one doc started me on Xanax. I wish to God I had NEVER taken one of those. I seriously thought I was dying one weekend when I ran out of those. My mom came by my place and literally broke in because I couldn't even get to the door and took me to the ER where they pumped me full of Vallium and such. Only then did I realize how close to death I actually was. My BP and pulse topped out at highly dangerous levels and untreated I likely would have had at least a stroke, maybe worse.
What most people fail to realize (Mr. Dude Man *ahem*) is that these pain meds aren't usually made for long term use yet some people never recover from their pain and have to be on them for longer periods of time. The Dr.'s are MORE than happy to keep handing you the scripts but condemn you if you abuse them (i.e. take more than they say you need to actually make them work against the pain). What they fail to think of (but know for fact) is that your body only compensates for this stuff over time. So where as the OP might take 120 to just feel normal again, not even acheiving a "high", that same size dose would kill someone like you Mr. Dude Man.
The OP didn't come here and say, "I'm hooked on ILLEGAL drugs" did he??? No. He's hooked on a legally manufactured and sold drug that, in my opinion, is worse than most street drugs out there.
I'm not defending the OP for seeking out that extra 40mg on the side, but having lived that life I can understand why he would. That's one thing I never had to do though thankfully because THERE WAS ALWAYS A DR. WILLING TO WRITE A SCRIPT.
It also sounds as if the OP knows this was wrong and is remorseful of it.
So to those who automatically say "I'll never understand you drug users".....no I suppose you never will. There's no way you can until you walk in their shoes. I pray to my God and whatever you may believe in that you never even once have to go down that road. Because if you did, and you asked for help, the last thing I'd do is point at you and call you weak or mock you.
On top of that I was going through a divorce/ugly custody battle and got pretty depressed so this one doc started me on Xanax. I wish to God I had NEVER taken one of those. I seriously thought I was dying one weekend when I ran out of those. My mom came by my place and literally broke in because I couldn't even get to the door and took me to the ER where they pumped me full of Vallium and such. Only then did I realize how close to death I actually was. My BP and pulse topped out at highly dangerous levels and untreated I likely would have had at least a stroke, maybe worse.
What most people fail to realize (Mr. Dude Man *ahem*) is that these pain meds aren't usually made for long term use yet some people never recover from their pain and have to be on them for longer periods of time. The Dr.'s are MORE than happy to keep handing you the scripts but condemn you if you abuse them (i.e. take more than they say you need to actually make them work against the pain). What they fail to think of (but know for fact) is that your body only compensates for this stuff over time. So where as the OP might take 120 to just feel normal again, not even acheiving a "high", that same size dose would kill someone like you Mr. Dude Man.
The OP didn't come here and say, "I'm hooked on ILLEGAL drugs" did he??? No. He's hooked on a legally manufactured and sold drug that, in my opinion, is worse than most street drugs out there.
I'm not defending the OP for seeking out that extra 40mg on the side, but having lived that life I can understand why he would. That's one thing I never had to do though thankfully because THERE WAS ALWAYS A DR. WILLING TO WRITE A SCRIPT.
It also sounds as if the OP knows this was wrong and is remorseful of it.
So to those who automatically say "I'll never understand you drug users".....no I suppose you never will. There's no way you can until you walk in their shoes. I pray to my God and whatever you may believe in that you never even once have to go down that road. Because if you did, and you asked for help, the last thing I'd do is point at you and call you weak or mock you.
My pain tolerance is pretty high, but the many stories of drug addiction I've seen (example - see MisterJackson's post above) have given me a strong (perhaps partially irrational) fear of most any meds, especially those which aren't absolutely, positively necessary to save my life. I know I tend toward an addictive personality anyway, so I'd rather not board that train, for fear of never getting off. I had the wisdom teeth pulled earlier this year, and when the dentist give me presciptions for painkillers, I just threw them in the trash as soon as I got home. Same thing when I broke my collarbone in a bike accident a few years back - wouldn't take painkillers in the ER, and wouldn't fill the prescriptions when I was released.
rudder
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I don't think I could have recovered from shoulder surgery as fast without lortabs. Physical therapy was very painful. Luckily I had a great doctor that monitored my usage and stepped me down over time. But really I could have another prescription by the end of today if I wanted.
from now on if I have any issues with bad pain (still suffer from arthritis) I usually request ultracet (tramadol). This is a non-narcotic, but from what I understand can still be addicting but no where near as bad as lortabs.
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