One good lawyer and he is in Iraq! (Jessica Lynch)

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Iraqi informer angered by treatment of POW

MARINE COMBAT HEADQUARTERS, Iraq - The Iraqi man who tipped U.S. Marines to the location of American POW Jessica Lynch said Thursday he did so after he saw her Iraqi captor slap her twice as she lay wounded in a hospital.

"A person, no matter his nationality, is a human being," the tipster, a 32-year-old lawyer whose wife was a nurse at the hospital, said in an interview at Marines' headquarters, where he, his wife and daughter are being treated as heroes and guests of honor.

"He is an extremely courageous man who should serve as an inspiration to all of us to do the right thing," said Lt. Col. Rick Long, spokesman for the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force.

After he saw Lynch slapped, the lawyer slipped into her room at the Saddam Hospital in Nasiriyah and told her, "Don't worry." Then he walked six miles to the nearest U.S. Marines and told them where she was.

He later returned to the hospital, at the request of U.S. commanders, to map the facility and count how many Saddam Hussein loyalists were there.

A U.S. commando force whose name remains secret rescued Lynch early Wednesday local time. She was taken Thursday to Germany for treatment of injuries she suffered when she was captured.

The lawyer, whose first name is Mohammed and who asked that his last name not be published, smiled between every sentence as he recounted in broken but expressive English how he helped the Americans. He learned English at Basra University.

Wearing Marine hand-me-downs after fleeing with only the clothes on their backs, Mohammed, his wife Iman, 32, a nurse at Saddam Hospital, and 6-year-old daughter Abir, seemed surprisingly cheerful for a family on the run.

Grateful Leathernecks showered them with Marine unit patches, a commemorative coin and an American flag on their way to a refugee center near the port of Umm Qsar, where they hope to ride out the war.

"I love America. I like America. Why, I don't know," Mohammed said as he recounted the critical role he played in Lynch's rescue.

Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has long repressed Iraq's people with such a brutal grip that even with American troops at the gates to Baghdad many refuse to rise up against him out of fear that he will outlast the Americans.

But Mohammed's tale is one of a man who didn't like what he saw when he walked into the Saddam Hospital last Friday to visit his wife and was told by a doctor friend that an American woman POW was in the emergency ward.

The friend walked him to the ground-floor ward, taken over by the feared Saddam Fedayeen at the start of the war, and past a window where he saw Lynch, an Army private first class captured after her convoy became lost near Nasiriyah in the opening days of the war.

Her head was bandaged, her right arm was in a sling over a white blanket and she had what Mohammed thought was a gunshot wound to a leg. But her real problem then was the black-uniformed Fedayeen commander who everyone addressed as "colonel."

The man slapped her, Mohammed said. "One, two," he added, making single slapping and back slap motions with his right hand. She was very brave, he recalled.

"My heart cut," Mohammed added, meaning stopped, putting his hand over his chest and grimacing. "There, I have decided to go to Americans to give them important information about the woman prisoner."

He walked into her room with his doctor friend. "I said 'Good morning.' She thought I was a doctor. I say, 'Don't worry.' She smiled," he recalled.

Doctors treating Lynch wanted to amputate her leg, Mohammed said, but his doctor friend persuaded them not to. His friend, he said, "hates Saddam Hussein and hates security of Saddam Hussein."

Mohammed said he told his wife to take their daughter to his father's house for safety, and then set off on foot to find the American troops he had heard were occupying the edges of Nasiriyah.

"This was very dangerous for me because American soldiers shoot," he said, throwing up his hands in the air to show how he carefully approached what turned out to be the U.S. Marines.

He told them about the woman prisoner, and about a U.S. military uniform he had also seen, presumably of a U.S. soldier killed in the fighting in and around Nasiriyah, some of the heaviest of the war.

They asked him to return to the six-story, 234-bed hospital to gather information on its layout, its hallways, stairways and doors, its basement and whether a helicopter could land on its roof.

He walked back, with no taxis in sight, even as U.S. jets bombed parts of the city of more than 500,000 people. "Boom, boom. I walked under bombs. Fire, Fire," Mohammed recalled.

He did the same thing the next day to report back to the Marines.

There were 41 Fedayeen based at the hospital, with four guarding Lynch's room in civilian clothes but armed with AK-47 assault rifles and carrying radios.

"I drew them a map. I drew them five maps," he said, plainly relishing his cloak-and-dagger missions into the heart of Saddam's terror network.

Fedayeen raided his house the next day, he said, taking away all his possessions and even his car, a Russian-made Muscovitch Brazilia 680. He said a neighbor was shot and her body dragged through the streets just for waving at a U.S. helicopter.

"Very bad people," he said. "There is no kindness in my heart for them."

He got his family out of Nasiriyah on Tuesday night, hours before a task force of U.S. commandos rescued Lynch in a raid so noteworthy that the U.S. Central Command in Qatar called a 4:30 a.m. news conference to announce it.

Four American journalists who have had regular access to the Marines' combat operations center in southern Iraq were asked to stay away from the COC as the rescue operation was getting underway.

Mohammed and his family are now officially "temporary refugees."

After showers, Mohammed put on an oversized green Marine pullover, his wife put on one of the gray T-shirts that MTV donated to the Leathernecks and his daughter was covered to her knees in a green T-shirt from a Marine chemical warfare unit.

But Mohammed did not appear despondent, as his wife smiled and stayed shyly in the background and daughter Abir played with a neon-green illumination stick given to her by a Marine.

"I am very happy," he said, adding that his wife wants to work in a hospital helping Americans and that he is eager to help the Marines any way he can until he can return home to Nasiriyah and resume his normal life.

"In future, when Saddam Hussein down, I will go back to Nasiriyah because my house and office are there," he said. As for the Fedayeen, he said, "when Saddam Hussein down, I sure they go away."

"Believe me, not only I, all the people of Iraq, not the people in the government, like Americans," Mohammed said. "They want to help the Americans, but they are all afraid."

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RyanM

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F*ck you, Morph. If you got slapped, you'd likely collapse to the ground in a heap of good-for-nothing dung. That woman has larger cajones than you could ever wish to possess, and every freaking American, no matter what their stance on the war, should be overjoyed to know not only that we got one of our own out of enemy hands, but that the Iraqi people, truly, really want Saddam out of there, and what we're doing is the right thing.

But people like you don't care about what's right, only what makes sense in your f*cking narrow uninformed worldview. Do us all a favor and don't disgrace this forum with your presence.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: MachFive
F*ck you, Morph. If you got slapped, you'd likely collapse to the ground in a heap of good-for-nothing dung. That woman has larger cajones than you could ever wish to possess, and every freaking American, no matter what their stance on the war, should be overjoyed to know not only that we got one of our own out of enemy hands, but that the Iraqi people, truly, really want Saddam out of there, and what we're doing is the right thing.

But people like you don't care about what's right, only what makes sense in your f*cking narrow uninformed worldview. Do us all a favor and don't disgrace this forum with your presence.

I was about to post something alot more harsh;) but I likely would have gotten myself a vacation. Thanks for saving me MachFive - your assesment of Morph and his trolling is right on target.

CkG

Edit - Morph you make me sick. I pity the dark cold world you immerse yourself in.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MachFive
F*ck you, Morph. If you got slapped, you'd likely collapse to the ground in a heap of good-for-nothing dung. That woman has larger cajones than you could ever wish to possess, and every freaking American, no matter what their stance on the war, should be overjoyed to know not only that we got one of our own out of enemy hands, but that the Iraqi people, truly, really want Saddam out of there, and what we're doing is the right thing.

But people like you don't care about what's right, only what makes sense in your f*cking narrow uninformed worldview. Do us all a favor and don't disgrace this forum with your presence.

I was about to post something alot more harsh;) but I likely would have gotten myself a vacation. Thanks for saving me MachFive - your assesment of Morph and his trolling is right on target.

CkG

Edit - Morph you make me sick. I pity the dark cold world you immerse yourself in.

I'd like to bash the sick little troll but I don't need the vacation. Let it suffice to say, he just ain't worth the trouble.

 

Corn

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F*ck you, Morph. If you got slapped, you'd likely collapse to the ground in a heap of good-for-nothing dung. That woman has larger cajones than you could ever wish to possess, and every freaking American, no matter what their stance on the war, should be overjoyed to know not only that we got one of our own out of enemy hands, but that the Iraqi people, truly, really want Saddam out of there, and what we're doing is the right thing.

But people like you don't care about what's right, only what makes sense in your f*cking narrow uninformed worldview. Do us all a favor and don't disgrace this forum with your presence.

Ditto.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: MachFive
F*ck you, Morph. If you got slapped, you'd likely collapse to the ground in a heap of good-for-nothing dung. That woman has larger cajones than you could ever wish to possess, and every freaking American, no matter what their stance on the war, should be overjoyed to know not only that we got one of our own out of enemy hands, but that the Iraqi people, truly, really want Saddam out of there, and what we're doing is the right thing.

But people like you don't care about what's right, only what makes sense in your f*cking narrow uninformed worldview. Do us all a favor and don't disgrace this forum with your presence.

It's worth a vacation...

Can we break his legs & an arm & then slap him?

 

RyanM

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Vacation me. I don't mind. It'd be nice to have a break from being beaten over the head with misconceptions spouted by idiots who couldn't find their asshole with both hands. Really.

These people make me sick to my stomach. I wish upon them nothing less than a nice, cold glass of SARS to shut them the hell up.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: Morph
They slapped her eh? Monsters!

That is the most ignorant post of the day. And by this, I would like to motion for the addition of an Ignore option button that can be clicked on beside someones screen name. Thank you.
 

jazzhound

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That courageous man and his family just guarunteed themselves an American citizenship (if they so wish)
 

Kadarin

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That guy deserves some kind of civilian medal for that; to go back into the place, map it, and count the number, positions, and armament of fedayeen guarding Pvt. Lynch required extraordinary bravery and humanity.
 

Morph

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You guys are like a pack of rabid dogs, just waiting to pounce on anyone that isn't patriotic enough. Not that I need to explain myself to the likes of you, but I wasn't trying to diminish what this girl has been through. I'm sure she's been through a trying ordeal. Then again, I don't know what happened and neither do any of you. But you are all so quick to demonize her captors, assuming that they've committed all these hideous acts of torture and other evil.

She could have been worse off. Look at the way POWs were treated in Vietnam. That's what happens when you wreak such devastation on an enemy that is near-helpless against you because of all your superior war machinery. They will retaliate in any way they can. I definitely feel bad for her and I'm glad she was rescued. But I keep it in perspective when i think about all the coalition soldiers who have lost their lives, along with the thousands of Iraqis who have been slaughtered.
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: MorphBut I keep it in perspective when i think about all the coalition soldiers who have lost their lives, along with the thousands of Iraqis who have been slaughtered.

Are you referring to the tens of thousands slaughtered by Saddam's regime, or the 500 or so that have been casualties in our fight to free them from him?

I feel really awful for the Iraqi casualties, I do. They were put in that awful situation by Saddam and his followers.
 

exp

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Holy crap, that guy must have balls like coconuts!!! :Q I hope the U.S. government gives that man the highest civilian medal that can possibly be awarded to a foreigner. I can't imagine how much guts it must take to do something like that even though you know firsthand what fate awaits those who cross Saddam's regime. I sure hope that nothing happens to him in retaliation.

I'm guessing he may want to stay in Iraq at this point and see what life after Saddam is like, but if he wants it I say give his whole family American citizenship and a plane ride over here.

 

rufruf44

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Funny, I don't hear Morph complaining when thousands of Iraqis getting killed by Saddam's regime, but once the US enter the fray and civilian casualties occurs, he critizes and blames the US govt non-stop.
 

conjur

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Let me help you out here, Morph:

Originally posted by: Morph
You guys are like a pack of rabid dogs, just waiting to pounce on anyone that isn't patriotic enough. Not that I need to explain myself to the likes of you, but I wasn't trying to diminish what this girl has been through. I'm sure she's been through a trying ordeal. Then again, I don't know what happened and neither do any of you. But you are all so quick to demonize her captors, assuming that they've committed all these hideous acts of torture and other evil because of their history of doing such things to their own people

She could have been worse off. Look at the way POWs were treated in Vietnam. That's what happens when you are dealing with barbaric animals. They will abuse innocents in any way they can. I definitely feel bad for her and I'm glad she was rescued. But I keep it in perspective when i think about all the coalition soldiers who have lost their lives, along with the thousands of Iraqis who have been slaughtered by the Iraqi military and by Saddam Hussein over the last few decades

 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Morph
You guys are like a pack of rabid dogs, just waiting to pounce on anyone that isn't patriotic enough. Not that I need to explain myself to the likes of you, but I wasn't trying to diminish what this girl has been through. I'm sure she's been through a trying ordeal. Then again, I don't know what happened and neither do any of you. But you are all so quick to demonize her captors, assuming that they've committed all these hideous acts of torture and other evil.

She could have been worse off. Look at the way POWs were treated in Vietnam. That's what happens when you wreak such devastation on an enemy that is near-helpless against you because of all your superior war machinery. They will retaliate in any way they can. I definitely feel bad for her and I'm glad she was rescued. But I keep it in perspective when i think about all the coalition soldiers who have lost their lives, along with the thousands of Iraqis who have been slaughtered.
Nice attempt at a save....not buying it though. You're an asshole and need to go on a vacation. Better yet you need to go somewhere far far away where the rest of the gutless, spineless, sub-humans live. Maybe there you can surround yourself with other morons who have nothing better to do than come into a thread about an incredibly brave man doing his best to save an American, an American by the way who is 10000 times the person you will ever be, life and make an amazingly insensitive and stupid comment. Compared to her you are nothing more than the lowest form of scum on the Earth.

Mods send me on vacation if you must....but it cannot be argued that morph is not a worthless puddle of donkey piss. He's proven it time and again in these forums and by God he needs to be taken to task for it.
 

StormRider

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What a great story (although it breaks my heart thinking what Jessica Lynch went through). In such violent times, here we see an act of great kindness.
 

Bignate603

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That man is amazing. He risked his life to get her out. Morph, however is not amazing. 'Nuff said.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Morph
You guys are like a pack of rabid dogs, just waiting to pounce on anyone that isn't patriotic enough. Not that I need to explain myself to the likes of you, but I wasn't trying to diminish what this girl has been through. I'm sure she's been through a trying ordeal. Then again, I don't know what happened and neither do any of you. But you are all so quick to demonize her captors, assuming that they've committed all these hideous acts of torture and other evil.

She could have been worse off. Look at the way POWs were treated in Vietnam. That's what happens when you wreak such devastation on an enemy that is near-helpless against you because of all your superior war machinery. They will retaliate in any way they can. I definitely feel bad for her and I'm glad she was rescued. But I keep it in perspective when i think about all the coalition soldiers who have lost their lives, along with the thousands of Iraqis who have been slaughtered.

Your momma didn't slap you hard enough, it looks like. You pathetic, not because your not patriotic enough, just because your reasoning sucks.

KK