One dead, more wounded at Houston area High School

[corwin]

Many people would try to post stories like this to try to prove that "guns don't kill people, people kill people."

While that may be true, guns are definitely the cause of mass rampage killings - the same can't be said for knifes/cars/etc

Uhh...guns are the tool not the cause, the person is still the cause, but nice try

 

[waggy]

Uhh...guns are the tool not the cause, the person is still the cause, but nice try

/this.

I don't care what the weapon they use is. its the person with the weapn that kills people.

 

[corwin]

/this.

I don't care what the weapon they use is. its the person with the weapn that kills people

The voice of reason is seldom heard

 

[Sunburn74]

There is no way you can stab 22 people. Have you guys ever stabbed a piece of thick raw steak? Its like stabbing dry wall. The knife goes in smoothly and takes quite a bit of force to get out. England is the place to look at as its the champion of public stabbings and really only outside of mass gang action do you >4 to 5 people stabbed. There is no way a single person can stab 22 people.

Slash 22 people is a different story, though likely the injuries won't be that threatening unless if he's truly just trying to slash.

 

[Fenixgoon]

There is no way you can stab 22 people. Have you guys ever stabbed a piece of thick raw steak? Its like stabbing dry wall. The knife goes in smoothly and takes quite a bit of force to get out. England is the place to look at as its the champion of public stabbings and really only outside of mass gang action do you >4 to 5 people stabbed. There is no way a single person can stab 22 people.

Slash 22 people is a different story, though likely the injuries won't be that threatening unless if he's truly just trying to slash.

have you ever stabbed a human? we're pretty squishy.

edit: for clarification purposes, no, i have not stabbed another human.

 

[trenchfoot]

Well, as to the statistics comparing firearm caused deaths to knife killings, let's just say that if there were as many firearms in every home as there are knives and if firearms were as easy to get as knives, then I think the stats would look a lot different. Just say'in.

 

[corwin]

Well, as to the statistics comparing firearm caused deaths to knife killings, let's just say that if there were as many firearms in every home as there are knives and if firearms were as easy to get as knives, then I think the stats would look a lot different. Just say'in.

So basically people aren't to be trusted with anything that can cause harm to another...right? So let's just take away everything that could cause harm to another by force right? Let stupidity rule?

 

[Zaap]

guns are definitely the cause of mass rampage killings

Who knew guns were such evil schemers?

the same can't be said for knifes/cars/etc

Or even pressure cookers.

Maybe those inanimate objects just aren't as devious as guns are?

 

[corwin]

Or even pressure cookers.

Maybe those inanimate objects just aren't as devious as guns are?

LOL

 

[trenchfoot]

So basically people aren't to be trusted with anything that can cause harm to another...right? So let's just take away everything that could cause harm to another by force right? Let stupidity rule?

LOL, I'm scratching my head wondering how you could ever get that out of my post.

Anyway, how 'bout I just say this instead then: Let's ruminate on what the stats look like when we compare how many accidental gunshot deaths there are compared to how many accidental stabbing deaths there are. K?

 

[Zaap]

N/M

 

[corwin]

LOL, I'm scratching my head wondering how you could ever get that out of my post.

Anyway, how 'bout I just say this instead then: Let's ruminate on what the stats look like when we compare how many accidental gunshot deaths there are compared to how many accidental stabbing deaths there are. K?

And how many auto accident deaths there are compared to gunshot deaths? Lets do some comparisons shall we

 

[irishScott]

There is no way you can stab 22 people. Have you guys ever stabbed a piece of thick raw steak? Its like stabbing dry wall. The knife goes in smoothly and takes quite a bit of force to get out. England is the place to look at as its the champion of public stabbings and really only outside of mass gang action do you >4 to 5 people stabbed. There is no way a single person can stab 22 people.

Slash 22 people is a different story, though likely the injuries won't be that threatening unless if he's truly just trying to slash.

Unless you happen to be slashing throats, or your stab victims are almost all children and are cornered in, say, a classroom with only one exit.

Also, here's a Chinese guy who killed 8 and wounded 5, with a knife. So yeah, mass stabbings have happened, and they have been mass-lethal. The situation isn't something you can dismiss with an internet hypothetical.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/china-knife-attack_n_1731760.html

 

[StrangerGuy]

Yes, but NOT ONE of those kids died. Just injuries.

Ah yes, knife attacks couldn't possibly be fatal right, genius?

 

[sandorski]

Uhh...guns are the tool not the cause, the person is still the cause, but nice try

Nukes are a tool too...

 

[corwin]

Nukes are a tool too...

And your point is?

 

[sandorski]

And your point is?

...i think you are fully aware what the point is....

 

[Zaap]

Umm... I'm not. Please elaborate.

 

[OGOC]

While that may be true, guns are definitely the cause of mass rampage killings - the same can't be said for knifes/cars/etc

I think a car + a large crowd could = mass rampage killing.

We should probably ban cars.

323 murders by rifles in 2011. 1,694 murders due to knives in 2011. Which one is more dangerous?

Even lightning is more dangerous than rifles.

For some reason, Obama wants to ban certain rifles. It would actually make a little sense if he wanted to ban handguns. But he doesn't. He says those are good for self-defense. I think an AR-15 is better at self-defense than a handgun, Mr. Obama. In fact, that's why DHS gets them and is why they call them "personal defense weapons."

 

[irishScott]

For some reason, Obama wants to ban certain rifles. It would actually make a little sense if he wanted to ban handguns. But he doesn't. He says those are good for self-defense. I think an AR-15 is better at self-defense than a handgun, Mr. Obama. In fact, that's why DHS gets them and is why they call them "personal defense weapons."

Because his goal, like all gun grabbers, isn't to stop gun crime or prevent gun deaths. It's to chase some quixotic notion of eliminating guns from society.

The only reason they aren't going after handguns is because they can't, SCOTUS has declared them as a weapon "in common use" for self defense and thus protected under the 2nd amendment.

 

[dank69]

I learned two things in this thread:

One casualty = multiple casualties

and

Sneaking a Katana into school can happen

 

[TerryMathews]

There is no way you can stab 22 people. Have you guys ever stabbed a piece of thick raw steak? Its like stabbing dry wall. The knife goes in smoothly and takes quite a bit of force to get out. England is the place to look at as its the champion of public stabbings and really only outside of mass gang action do you >4 to 5 people stabbed. There is no way a single person can stab 22 people.

Slash 22 people is a different story, though likely the injuries won't be that threatening unless if he's truly just trying to slash.

Is your knife, maybe, perhaps serrated?

Just saying.

 

[nehalem256]

I learned two things in this thread:

One casualty = multiple casualties

and

Sneaking a Katana into school can happen

Given that there have been cases of people sneaking bombs and an arsenal of firearms in to a school it should be too hard to sneak a single katana in.

And the awesome thing about a katana is it doesn't take ammo.

 

[Zaap]

I learned two things in this thread:

One casualty = multiple casualties

Too bad you didn't learn how to use the term casualties.

 

[irishScott]

Given that there have been cases of people sneaking bombs and an arsenal of firearms in to a school it should be too hard to sneak a single katana in.

And the awesome thing about a katana is it doesn't take ammo.

Bu... but it hasn't happened yet! So it must be impossible!!!