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On the topic of "Draw Prophet Mohammed Day"

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If muslims would just thumb their noses at the drawings and be civil, people would stop drawing them. It's like people are trolling them for responses, and they give in, almost programatticaly.
 
There are American muslims that kill because their religion tells them to. I heard about a father that tried to run over his own daughter with the family car because she abandoned the Muslim faith. The recent Times Square car-bombing attempt was Muslim-organized. In America terrorist incidents are carried out by Muslims 99% of the time.

If you look at the Koran it's obvious which passages they are acting on. It's pretty cut-and-dried.

Why don't more Muslim-Americans persecute non-believers like they 'should'? Because they are shamed and cowed by public opinion, and their own guilty conscience. Some may recognize that particular tenet is despicable.

I for one am glad they choose to abandon that particular tenet of the religion. I'll bet anyone that has to live near a Muslim is glad as well.

We shouldn't mock and revile people for what they believe, but simply drawing a picture of Mohammed is no reason to upset any rational person. The trouble is, Mohammed was a pretty vile and reprehensible dude and any accurate/truthful depiction of him won't portray a man of virtue. Too bad for Muslims that their vaunted 'prophet' can't really be respected as a role model.

I have drawn a pic, not sure where I'll be posting it.
 
Beev said:
OP seems to have fled after making the thread.

At any rate, I don't JUST make fun of Muslims for being fucktards. I do it for anyone who is religious. I don't "hate" on Mohammed because I'm bigoted. I do it because FUCK YOU I'll say whatever I want. All of this Mohammed shit is funny because of the uproar it causes.

In short:

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And a lot of religions seem to have important figures with rather obsessive tendencies and bizarre rituals. No images of the prophet? What, was the guy afraid of pictures? Yeah, idoltry...whatever. Fine.
"Dear followers and such: Don't worship pictures of things. Ok, done. Next topic on the agenda: Pork."

Or a deity which can cleanse sin by creating a human specifically for the purpose of torture and death.

Head assplode.
 
It's pretty hypocritical that the fucktards here and elsewhere always single Muslims out when they want to institute their 'rights' to show how intolerant assholes they really are. But are equally silent when it comes to any other religion.
 
zoiks said:
It's pretty hypocritical that the fucktards here and elsewhere always single Muslims out when they want to institute their 'rights' to show how intolerant assholes they really are. But are equally silent when it comes to any other religion.
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No worries, I have hate towards all organized religions that try and force their opinions and tell other people what to do. People like Buddhists, Taoists etc. that mind their business seem awesome to me. When some Christian nutbag wants to push things into my children's textbooks arguing against science then they must hold up to scrutiny and be punished with logic.
 
zoiks said:
It's pretty hypocritical that the fucktards here and elsewhere always single Muslims out when they want to institute their 'rights' to show how intolerant assholes they really are. But are equally silent when it comes to any other religion.
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Bullshit. Most people here have no problem bashing the Pope every time he defends a pedo priest.

Allah snackbar!
 
Crono said:
In other words, people use these events not as a defense of free speech, but as a license to be a douche.

Just because you can be an ass doesn't mean you should. Waters should be tested only when necessary, not for twisted entertainment. Build others up, not take them down. Criticism of and disagreement with beliefs is fine, but mocking people never helps.

Funny how people use patriotism and freedom as a shield for idiotic forms of protest. Confront ignorance with pure truth and words of intellectual debate, not a mocking spirit.
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So it's ok to mock priests, Jesus, Catholicism and anything else that people find offensive....but it's not ok to do to Muslims? Got it.
 
FeuerFrei said:
There are American muslims that kill because their religion tells them to. I heard about a father that tried to run over his own daughter with the family car because she abandoned the Muslim faith.
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I'm pretty sure that, for Muslims, the punishment for apostasy is death.
 
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Here's a timely challenge for youse artistic folks...

A caricature of Mohammed, wrapped in the Union Jack and tied to the Olympic games.

Since the Muslims are "taking over" Great Britain and imposing their will on the islands, (Sharia law and such) this should go over very well.
 
My Facebook account was just disabled/deleted after I posted 5 or 6 pictures of Mohammad along with a few choice comments about the fascists calling for censorship. No Facebook rules were broken (unless you count offending people as violating the rules), but they did it anyway. I'm betting these muslim assholes flagged the pics as spam and reported me, causing Facebook to delete everything I've ever posted. Amazing confirmation of what this day is all about and why it is needed.
 
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GodlessAstronomer said:
That's what I mean. Most people know at least some muslims and for the most part they are fine people, with religious delusions that are remarkably similar to the people you Americans constantly vote to lead your country. Everyone talks tough about muslims on forums like this but they wouldn't say anything like this to their muslim coworkers. Because they are either liars and trying to look like tough guys on the forum, or they're giant pussies.
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You are missing the point. Of course 99.9% of the people doing this would not do it to their friends that are muslims. Nor would they do it to muslims that are moderate.

HOWEVER, those aren't the people that are the problem. It is muslims that call for the murder of cartoonists. It is a message that we will not be bullied by threats from extremists. Moderates are caught in the crossfire but all I can say is tough.

If moderates would OPENLY and PUBLICLY call out these extremists then this wouldn't be as much as issue. The problem is that moderate muslims aren't loud and vocal about their HATE for the extremists. Until Islam as a whole becomes moderate with moderates exiling the extremists, this will continue as it should.

No one should ever be threatened/killed for drawing Mohammed. Moderates gets this but do nothing about it.
 
Codewiz said:
You are missing the point. Of course 99.9% of the people doing this would not do it to their friends that are muslims. Nor would they do it to muslims that are moderate.

HOWEVER, those aren't the people that are the problem. It is muslims that call for the murder of cartoonists. It is a message that we will not be bullied by threats from extremists. Moderates are caught in the crossfire but all I can say is tough.

If moderates would OPENLY and PUBLICLY call out these extremists then this wouldn't be as much as issue. The problem is that moderate muslims aren't loud and vocal about their HATE for the extremists. Until Islam as a whole becomes moderate with moderates exiling the extremists, this will continue as it should.

No one should ever be threatened/killed for drawing Mohammed. Moderates gets this but do nothing about it.
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The thing is, I think there are plenty of moderate Muslims that take issue with images of the prophet. They don't react to it violently, or demand the heads of infidels that disrespect this tenant, and I'm sure they take issue with extremists that do; but moderate can also equal devout, and for them, it is still such a part of who they are, how they were raised, that they honestly don't want to make even simple, non-offensive depictions of the prophet necessarily "acceptable."

I think the problem with those that are behind this "freedom of speech, douchbaggery b/c I can" argument is that you misunderstand the intent, history, and personal understanding of those moderates that you claim to support.
 
I think it's important for Muslims, each and every one, living in North America and abroad, to come face to face with the fact that their religion is not above criticism and parody - just like all the rest. Thus I support the drawings.

Muslims call for changes in law

Muslim scholars who gathered for an emergency meeting have called for changes to the law to stop images of the Prophet Muhammad being published.

Members of the Muslim Action Committee (MAC) who met in Birmingham called for changes to the Race Relations Act and the Press Complaints Commission code.

They are to stage a protest march in London on 18 February, expected to attract 20,000 to 50,000 people.
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DangerAardvark said:
BTW, the point of stuff like this is to reiterate that THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE OFFENSE AT CARTOONS, NOT THOSE WHO DRAW THEM. You know, sort of like the people who get bent out of shape over a cracker. Or a novel, which forces an author into protective custody for a decade.

Of course this wouldn't even be necessary if religions were capable of keeping their delusions to themselves.
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Tally one up for the home team. :thumbsup:
 
zoiks said:
It's pretty hypocritical that the fucktards here and elsewhere always single Muslims out when they want to institute their 'rights' to show how intolerant assholes they really are. But are equally silent when it comes to any other religion.
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All hail the mighty Xenu

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Better :awe:
 
yllus said:
I think it's important for Muslims, each and everyone, living in North America and abroad, to come face to face with the fact that their religion is not above criticism and parody - just like all the rest. Thus I support the drawings.

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f that s. I'm going to show up at the rally with a giant picture of Muhammed on my picket.
 
GodlessAstronomer said:
That's what I mean. Most people know at least some muslims and for the most part they are fine people, with religious delusions that are remarkably similar to the people you Americans constantly vote to lead your country.
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If you want to talk about the subject at hand do it, but don't come here spewing atheist crap in the process. Your little atheist jabs are pathetic.

Anyways, I feel people make fun of Islam because more terrorists seem to follow this religion more than any other.
 
Beev said:
f that s. I'm going to show up at the rally with a giant picture of Muhammed on my picket.
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The article is from 2006, so you'd be a little late. 😀 Point is, your average British, American or Canadian Muslim might not resort to bombs or threats, but often they do believe mockery of their religion should be disallowed by law. This belief must be countered.
 
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