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On the budget, Obama has Republicans cornered

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How can we expect a city full of politicians to not play party politics when a thread of forum users can't?

This is just another sign that as country we cannot survive by doing business the same way. We either evolve or we die. I for one am not optimistic.
 
Obummer would rather shut the government down than stop the unprecedented spending free for all. No shocker there, the blame is squarely on the dems in the senate and the white house.
 
charrison said:
Ball is in the democrats court now. And Obama already said he would veto it. Who wants the shutdown?
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Who wants the shutdown?

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-06/...pending-cuts-republican-pledge?_s=PM:POLITICS
Tea Party does.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...oehner-tea-party-budget-government-shutdown/1

Boehner says: "Listen, there's no daylight between the Tea Party and me"

Ball is still in GOP's court. They wasted time passing a bill that is going nowhere, they need to pass a budget that can get through Senate and President to fund the government for the rest of the year, not one week.
 
senseamp said:
Who wants the shutdown?

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-06/...pending-cuts-republican-pledge?_s=PM:POLITICS
Tea Party does.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...oehner-tea-party-budget-government-shutdown/1

Boehner says: "Listen, there's no daylight between the Tea Party and me"

Ball is still in GOP's court. They wasted time passing a bill that is going nowhere, they need to pass a budget that can get through Senate and President to fund the government for the rest of the year, not one week.
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A bill has been passed to keep govt open and it is democrats who want none of it. Going to be a hard sell to lay the blame anywhere else.
 
charrison said:
A bill has been passed to keep govt open and it is democrats who want none of it. Going to be a hard sell to lay the blame anywhere else.
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It's a bill that would jeopardize the economy with draconian cuts, and it has no chance of getting passed. They need to stop playing politics and pass the $30B in cuts they asked for and Democrats agreed to. It's all or nothing.
 
eskimospy said:
It really won't be at all, the move is pretty transparent.
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Yep, with Tea Party out there cheering a shut down, and Boehner saying there is no light between him and the Tea Party, good luck painting this as anything other than a GOP forced shutdown. Republicans are just going to have to pick between Tea Party and Independents. It's their choice, I suppose, but the wedge is in.
 
charrison said:
It is supposed to be a clean bill without any riders that is good for another week.
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The extension is more cuts and funding for the Pentagon, but it does nothing to strip the other policy riders from the larger bill. (notably, until recently Republicans vehemently opposed such attachments)
 
senseamp said:
It's a bill that would jeopardize the economy with draconian cuts, and it has no chance of getting passed. They need to stop playing politics and pass the $30B in cuts they asked for and Democrats agreed to. It's all or nothing.
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If the House sent a continuing resolution to the Senate and the Senate accepted the bill as is, then where is the issue.

It seems as if the Senate DID NOT accept the House version and they have not come to a comprimise
 
Common Courtesy said:
If the House sent a continuing resolution to the Senate and the Senate accepted the bill as is, then where is the issue.

It seems as if the Senate DID NOT accept the House version and they have not come to a comprimise
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Huh? GOP needs to ask the Senate and President what is acceptable before sending a bill up. There is no time for Boehner's political games.
 
senseamp said:
It's a bill that would jeopardize the economy with draconian cuts, and it has no chance of getting passed. They need to stop playing politics and pass the $30B in cuts they asked for and Democrats agreed to. It's all or nothing.
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They passed a clean bill with no riders to fund govt for the next week. Nice try.
 
charrison said:
It is supposed to be a clean bill without any riders that is good for another week.
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$10B in cuts is not a clean bill. If they wanted to fund government at current levels, then they may have a case, but trying to get $520B in annualized cuts through 1 week continuing resolutions with $10B cuts is a non-starter. GOP needs to get serious, and pass the $30B in cuts that they asked for, with no policy riders.
 
eskimospy said:
The extension is more cuts and funding for the Pentagon, but it does nothing to strip the other policy riders from the larger bill. (notably, until recently Republicans vehemently opposed such attachments)
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So you would rather shutdown govt, than to give congress another week to sort funding out.

gotcha.
 
charrison said:
So you would rather shutdown govt, than to give congress another week to sort funding out.

gotcha.
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If they want to retain status quo for 1 week to sort it out, they need to pass a clean bill with no cuts. Trying to pass cuts via continuing resolutions is not a clean bill. This bill is a known non-starter, and it's endangering the economic recovery.
 
GOP got enough extensions to sort it out. It's time to pass the budget to fund the government. Boehner needs to put some daylight between himself and tea partiers demanding a shut down.
 
senseamp said:
GOP got enough extensions to sort it out. It's time to pass the budget to fund the government. Boehner needs to put some daylight between himself and tea partiers demanding a shut down.
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The house is free to vote themselves as many extensions as they like. Who put you in charge of how many extensions they can pass?
 
charrison said:
So you would rather shutdown govt, than to give congress another week to sort funding out.

gotcha.
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I see no reason to believe that signing this extension would make it more likely that Congress would sort funding out. If you were the Republicans and the Democrats signed onto this, what would you do? I'd wait another week and try again.
 
Genx87 said:
The house is free to vote themselves as many extensions as they like. Who put you in charge of how many extensions they can pass?
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They can extend themselves all they want, but that doesn't fund the government, which is their job, unless they get it signed into law.
 
senseamp said:
GOP got enough extensions to sort it out. It's time to pass the budget to fund the government. Boehner needs to put some daylight between himself and tea partiers demanding a shut down.
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The GOP has gotten enough extensions to pass the budget the Democrat Congress was required by law to pass and did not?

M'kay . . .
 
Yawn, that's in the long distant pass. Today it's GOP House's responsibility to fund the government. They asked for that responsibility, and they got it at the November elections. Now they will be held responsible.
GOP was trying to sit on both the tea-party and independent chair at the same time. Now Obama has put a wedge in between. They are going to have to pick one or their butt is going to hurt, big time.
 
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