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On-court payback left ballplayer unconscious

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wow amazing the idiot has not been arrested and charged. There is NO excuse for what happened. no matter how the game is being played you do not sucker punch then clothline (looks more like he tried to throw the kid to the ground) then start pounding him while he is out. that is assault and the fvcker should be arrested.

also if there was pushing and elbows the damn refs need to take control of the game. also WTF was the ref doing? while this was going on he was just standing there calli8ng the foul and not doing anything ot protect him? WTF?
 
Hey, it's a sport, and it's contact sport at that. People get bumped, get shoved, get hit. Fights happen.

That wasn't a fight, though. That was a sucker-punch and a beatdown of a then helpless player.

This is defnitely criminal.
 
this being america i will be really surprised if:

1. it does not turn into a race issue
2. some minority group, reverand, local offical doesnt come out and speak on the aggravators behalf
3. gets punished in any meaningful way

not only will this turn into a race thing, im sure the guy is not at home regrettfully thinking about what he did...i would be surprised if he has not been gloating to his freinds....

were it my kid i would have tackled the other kid and started pounding on him until i was forcefully taken off him.
 
If you are saying that the kid initially started it bc he shoved him... I think it is rediculous to say that he asked for it. The other kid who beat the sh!t out of him committed a crime. That's like if you are at the grocery and someone knocks into your cart you pick up your cart and toss it on their head.
 
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Queasy
Maples says his player was only responding to several elbows the Lawrence player had thrown during the course of the game.
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Maples should be removed as coach. Getting elbowed doesn't give you the right to sucker punch and beat a person unconcious on the ground.
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Yep. It's that exact stupid idiot mentality - of both the coach and likely his parents - that lead punks like this to believe this behavior is acceptable.
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Agree. Anyone who played basketball as a kid has seen "elbows" being thrown by kids. Usually, they are taught to swing their arms around after a rebound to keep bigger, stronger kids from taking the ball away from them. Actually, i have seen this in college and the NBA too. On the play just before, the white kid gets the loose ball and "throws and elbow" at the other kid. It could be called a foul, but is definitely a part of the game. He isn't swinging his elbows up, just swinging his body around to create space.

I'm not sure the attacker should be jailed, but he should definitely have this on his record and get some counseling. A very unnatural "reaction". OK, maybe it's natural, but definitely not acceptable in our society. I wouldn't think it was a big deal if he had thrown the kid to the ground, or even just sucker punched him, but to keep wailing on him after he was out is way beyond acceptable.
 
That kid would have been dead if that was my son. Seriously. I might have just lost control.

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The guy was knocked out already. It is definitely assauly and battery because the person was totally defenseless after the first punch.
 
How the hell can the prosecutor NOT do something about this.

I woud bet money that this is NOT the first violent act this kid commited.

How can this be THREE MONTHS OLD and nothing happen???!!!

 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
How the hell can the prosecutor NOT do something about this.

I woud bet money that this is NOT the first violent act this kid commited.

How can this be THREE MONTHS OLD and nothing happen???!!!
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easy. nobody is yelling about it (well until now)

as boogieman said if they charge the kid all hell is going to break loose. it will be a big race issue.
 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I woud bet money that this is NOT the first violent act this kid commited.
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No kidding. People don't commit animal beatings as their first act of violence. I'd put money on this kid being a reputable, first class PUNK.

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
How can this be THREE MONTHS OLD and nothing happen???!!!
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Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the video. No wonder the dad is pissed. THREE MONTHS? NO FREAKING CHARGES YET? NOT EVEN A *hint*?

Give me a damn break.

 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
How the hell can the prosecutor NOT do something about this.

I woud bet money that this is NOT the first violent act this kid commited.

How can this be THREE MONTHS OLD and nothing happen???!!!
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easy. nobody is yelling about it (well until now)

as boogieman said if they charge the kid all hell is going to break loose. it will be a big race issue.
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:roll: Its true. I hate that crap. It isn't a race issue at all. It is assault and battery and the kid deserves to get the living tar beat out of him in Juvie.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
How the hell can the prosecutor NOT do something about this.

I woud bet money that this is NOT the first violent act this kid commited.

How can this be THREE MONTHS OLD and nothing happen???!!!
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easy. nobody is yelling about it (well until now)

as boogieman said if they charge the kid all hell is going to break loose. it will be a big race issue.
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im sure the parents are also mulling over the repercussions to their sons well being if they pursue charges against this kid...

the parents cant protect him 24/7.......im sure that guy has freinds and family that would be furious and may resort to physical violence, if he is sent away to prison or even just charged
 
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I woud bet money that this is NOT the first violent act this kid commited.
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No kidding. People don't commit animal beatings as their first act of violence. I'd put money on this kid being a reputable, first class PUNK.

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
How can this be THREE MONTHS OLD and nothing happen???!!!
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Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the video. No wonder the dad is pissed. THREE MONTHS? NO FREAKING CHARGES YET? NOT EVEN A *hint*?

Give me a damn break.
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the father knows no charges are going to be filled. though with it hitting CNN there might be enough backlash that they charge the little punk.

man if hte races were reversed people would be calling for his head. heck even in false cases (the duke race case anyone) people are still saying they should be charged for past rapes against blacks.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
should hockey players be charged with assault if they get in a fight in a game?

Of course fighting is more a "part" of hockey than in baskeball, and the push was obviously more a "part" of the game than the beatdown. But the push instigated the beatdown, so in any other context I think the white kid would be in trouble too...

I'm just rambling mostly, but I don't agree that the black kid should be tried as an adult and put in prison for years. He certainly needs to make financial restitution for the damage he did (i.e. to the kid's braces), and he needs to be punished severely, but the kid overreacted in the heat of the moment. He's not a cold-blooded criminal.
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When hockey players get into fights it because both of them want to do it. ever watch hockey?? Both of them throw punches. Refs are there to stop it if either of the fighters bows out or is hurt.

What the attacker did in this video IS cold blooded and you damn well know if the rolls were reveresed and the white kid beat the black kid he would be brought up on charges including racial hate crimes and the ACLU would be all over it to sue.

If I was the kids dad, I would have taken one for my son and smashed that little sh!ts face into a bloddy pulp.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
man if hte races were reversed people would be calling for his head. heck even in false cases (the duke race case anyone) people are still saying they should be charged for past rapes against blacks.
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Agreed. I am sick of people using racial hatred as an excuse.
 
Cannot find an email address, but I think this just might be worth a phone call.

Lawrence City Prosecutor
Address

* 1006 New Hampshire
* Lawrence, Kansas 66044
* Phone: (785) 832-6195
* Fax: (785) 832-6198
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

When hockey players get into fights it because both of them want to do it. ever watch hockey?? Both of them throw punches. Refs are there to stop it if either of the fighters bows out or is hurt.
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Yes, I've watched hockey. The fact that both people are willing participants does determine whether a fight is legal. It is a debated issue. The same issue came up relating to the Jerry Springer show a few years back.

I think it's hilarious that so many people are assuming that because the kid is black, this will turn into an issue of race if the kid is charged. In the process you are:
1. Turning this into an issue about race yourselves
2. Making an assumption about people based on their race. I think there's a word for that... can't quite put my finger on it.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

When hockey players get into fights it because both of them want to do it. ever watch hockey?? Both of them throw punches. Refs are there to stop it if either of the fighters bows out or is hurt.
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Yes, I've watched hockey. The fact that both people are willing participants does determine whether a fight is legal. It is a debated issue. The same issue came up relating to the Jerry Springer show a few years back.

I think it's hilarious that so many people are assuming that because the kid is black, this will turn into an issue of race if the kid is charged. In the process you are:
1. Turning this into an issue about race yourselves
2. Making an assumption about people based on their race. I think there's a word for that... can't quite put my finger on it.
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i think its hilarious you live in the US and under a rock.....
 
Originally posted by: mugs
I think it's hilarious that so many people are assuming that because the kid is black, this will turn into an issue of race if the kid is charged. In the process you are:
1. Turning this into an issue about race yourselves
2. Making an assumption about people based on their race. I think there's a word for that... can't quite put my finger on it.
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I see your point, and I clearly recognize that, but you have to admit that using the race card happens so frequently nowadays that it makes me sick.

I was really pissed about something that came on the news about 5 weeks ago. It talked about how Houston is running into debt because of supporting all the Katrina "victims" that are living in Houston now, and not being compensated by FEMA. Some of the apartment complexes turned off the power to their complexes because they were getting no money from the "victims". (Do you know how many jobs were opened up for the Katrina "victims" exclusively in Houston?) The news showed the "victims" protesting outside there apartments. Mind you it was a Wednesday (midday when they interviewed these people. Whole families (kids who should have been in school, the parents who should have been working but were not), and I mean whole families, were outside protesting saying, this wouldn't have happened if they were white. Pissed the heck out of me.

The news was trying to show how heartless the apartment complex was. :roll: The apartment complex was housing all Katrina victims and had no revenue to pay for utilities. That is that. Mind you the Katrina victims who went to get jobs and are working now and paying for their apartments are totally a benefit to Houston. But it isn't a big surprise our crime rates went through the roof after the evacuees showed up.

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Oh BTW, after this happened, ACLU and other people started throwing the race card around. It wasn't a matter of race. The apartment couldn't pay for utilities anymore.

It may be an assumption in this case, but I am guessing it is part of the political reason the kid hasn't been prosecuted yet.

Oh yeah, and remember the 2 grand Debit Cards. I know electronic retailers that had a big pay day when FEMA started passing out those debit cards because the "victims" just cashed them in for cheap thrills instead of getting their lives in order. I guess they figured they could blame the government or burden everyone else, by playing the "victim" or "race" card if they ran out of money. :|
 
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