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OMMFG: lady I work with is DEMANDING sick/vacation workarounds

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

I could make the exact same assertions about males in my former workplace (several of them were single fathers).

I'm not going to be obnoxious and make overgeneralizations like "cliffs: Men in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.", though. It's a shame you've had such experience, but blame it on the individuals themselves instead of generalizing such assertions to all women.

It's disappointing how many people take a handful of personal experiences and feel that gives them enough evidence to generalize to millions of others.

You appear to have some very serious and disturbing issues with misogyny.


For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered.Also, let's not forget that come divorce time these same guys would be screaming about how the lazy biatch needs to get off her arse and get a job.

That said, I've had to deal with people like the OP is complaining about and it's annoying
as all get out.If you KNOW you need certain days off for whatever reason, put your requests in way ahead of time, don't wait till last minute and then expect others to switch their plans.

It would be nice if it was a handful, or 10% or something like that. This is gender-wide.


I can handle the divorce-excuse. This doesn't apply to this woman, or the power-issue problems, or the general 'losers' who don't need their job and it's obvious
. She's married and 'wants to work'. (doesn't NEED to, and points this out often)

I can assure you it isn't gender-wide, as I know some very powerful (but not power-hungry), assertive (but not controlling), respectful and competent women in the workforce. The former VP at a place I worked at for several years was a black female, and infinitely more able, competent, and reliable than the white male President. Do I think that all white males are problematic and incapable of performing their job functions because of this example? No.

It sounds like the individual you are complaining about is a major pain, but I wouldn't be so rash as to make assumptions about ALL women based on your experience with a limited number of females in one of thousands of companies and occupations.


I have STRESSED that it is MY experience, and it ISN'T one, or two, or three.

Don't get your panties in a wad, relatively speaking.
 
I have one and only one problem with working with women.

I'm a fairly quiet person, and I pretty much stay in my cubicle. Women translate that fact in a way that they think I'm a good listener. So they assume that I want to listen to them. Every job I've ever had, my office has become the "bitching spot". They gripe about their jobs, their hair, their coworkers, their workload, the color of the carpet, something their husband said last night, the movie they saw the day before their ninth birthday, the fact that their deodorent now only comes in unscented, their little doggy at home peeing all over the carpet, the fact that they aren't 16 anymore, how that damned George Bush ought to see things their way, how white paper would be so much prettier if it was pink, that Walmart is taking over the entire retail world, that smelling wet fingernail polish makes them feel all funny, that Clive down in accounting looked at them funny this morning, that typing nonstop all day is giving them brain cancer, that their butts have grown five sizes larger since just yesterday, that Krispy Kreme is skimping on the filling in their doughnuts, that everyone keeps screaming something about TPS reports, that someone in Engineering told a joke this morning that they just didn't get and nobody should be allowed to tell jokes in the workplace anyway, that its just so unfair that Barbara gets to take the mail to the mailbox every day, that last night at the club Billy put something in her drink and she can't remember a period of about three hours, that maxi-pads don't come in any larger sizes, and so on, ad nauseum.

But mostly, they just gripe about each other.
 
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

I could make the exact same assertions about males in my former workplace (several of them were single fathers).

I'm not going to be obnoxious and make overgeneralizations like "cliffs: Men in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.", though. It's a shame you've had such experience, but blame it on the individuals themselves instead of generalizing such assertions to all women.

It's disappointing how many people take a handful of personal experiences and feel that gives them enough evidence to generalize to millions of others.

You appear to have some very serious and disturbing issues with misogyny.


For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered.Also, let's not forget that come divorce time these same guys would be screaming about how the lazy biatch needs to get off her arse and get a job.

That said, I've had to deal with people like the OP is complaining about and it's annoying
as all get out.If you KNOW you need certain days off for whatever reason, put your requests in way ahead of time, don't wait till last minute and then expect others to switch their plans.

It would be nice if it was a handful, or 10% or something like that. This is gender-wide.


I can handle the divorce-excuse. This doesn't apply to this woman, or the power-issue problems, or the general 'losers' who don't need their job and it's obvious
. She's married and 'wants to work'. (doesn't NEED to, and points this out often)

I can assure you it isn't gender-wide, as I know some very powerful (but not power-hungry), assertive (but not controlling), respectful and competent women in the workforce. The former VP at a place I worked at for several years was a black female, and infinitely more able, competent, and reliable than the white male President. Do I think that all white males are problematic and incapable of performing their job functions because of this example? No.

It sounds like the individual you are complaining about is a major pain, but I wouldn't be so rash as to make assumptions about ALL women based on your experience with a limited number of females in one of thousands of companies and occupations.


I have STRESSED that it is MY experience, and it ISN'T one, or two, or three.

Don't get your panties in a wad, relatively speaking.

Dude if I knew you in real life you'd have been knocked out a couple of times already. You are an annoying, over-bearing whiny little nerd.
 
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

I could make the exact same assertions about males in my former workplace (several of them were single fathers).

I'm not going to be obnoxious and make overgeneralizations like "cliffs: Men in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.", though. It's a shame you've had such experience, but blame it on the individuals themselves instead of generalizing such assertions to all women.

It's disappointing how many people take a handful of personal experiences and feel that gives them enough evidence to generalize to millions of others.

You appear to have some very serious and disturbing issues with misogyny.


For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered.Also, let's not forget that come divorce time these same guys would be screaming about how the lazy biatch needs to get off her arse and get a job.

That said, I've had to deal with people like the OP is complaining about and it's annoying
as all get out.If you KNOW you need certain days off for whatever reason, put your requests in way ahead of time, don't wait till last minute and then expect others to switch their plans.

It would be nice if it was a handful, or 10% or something like that. This is gender-wide.


I can handle the divorce-excuse. This doesn't apply to this woman, or the power-issue problems, or the general 'losers' who don't need their job and it's obvious
. She's married and 'wants to work'. (doesn't NEED to, and points this out often)

I can assure you it isn't gender-wide, as I know some very powerful (but not power-hungry), assertive (but not controlling), respectful and competent women in the workforce. The former VP at a place I worked at for several years was a black female, and infinitely more able, competent, and reliable than the white male President. Do I think that all white males are problematic and incapable of performing their job functions because of this example? No.

It sounds like the individual you are complaining about is a major pain, but I wouldn't be so rash as to make assumptions about ALL women based on your experience with a limited number of females in one of thousands of companies and occupations.


I have STRESSED that it is MY experience, and it ISN'T one, or two, or three.

Don't get your panties in a wad, relatively speaking.

Your assertion that "It would be nice if it was a handful, or 10% or something like that. This is gender-wide." makes it seem like "YOUR" experience can/should be generalized to everyone's when, if fact, it can't and shouldn't be.

And rest assured, nobody's undergarments are being altered, other than the possibility of someone's briefs slowly sneaking their way up into the rectal region. You are the only one who is shouting and ranting about around here. 😉
 
I think there are some women out there that work very hard, yet get screwed over because they are women, male managers just dont take them seriously.

It works the other way as well. I've worked with SOO many women that are just impossible to work with, yet others that have been some of the best co-workers ever.


At the end of the day, I never judge anyone for anything. Hire a well qualified woman who has clearly been able to Demonstrate the ability to perform the task that they are being hired while being a positive influence in her work enviroment, yay. All the better.

I all know the feelings that you guys are saying though. People nowadays, they think the world revolves around them. GREAT, you have a family, so do I. GREAT you have to do stuff with your kids, SO DO I. I am as much a father as my wife is a mother, our job of rasing the kids is equal. We both work, we both do our jobs at work and at home to the best of our ability.


People need to stop complaining. Work isnt easy. Any women that not doing their job and being a negative in the workforce find themselves no longer working at our company. You want to gossip? Do it on off hours, not at work. If guys want to talk about sports instead of job, same thing. Off hours. We dont target anything but productivity in a positive enviroment. You let one person slack, then they all slack.

Scream lawsuits, sure they might. But at the end of the day, an easy statistical analysis backed up by their qualifications clearly shows that our company is out to make our share holders happy, not quibble quabble over if someone is man/woman/green/yellow or pink.



I still hear stories all the time though. Just the other day I heard a manager made his employee give him a blow-job otherwise she would be fired.

She did, and kept her job. That is the stuff that we need to get rid of.
 
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

Just a thought: armatron, instead of posting on the Internet about how much you despise women in the workforce and want them to be fired... shouldn't you be be working yourself? 😉
 
Originally posted by: irev210
I think there are some women out there that work very hard, yet get screwed over because they are women, male managers just dont take them seriously.

It works the other way as well. I've worked with SOO many women that are just impossible to work with, yet others that have been some of the best co-workers ever.

At the end of the day, I never judge anyone for anything. Hire a well qualified woman who has clearly been able to Demonstrate the ability to perform the task that they are being hired while being a positive influence in her work enviroment, yay. All the better.

I all know the feelings that you guys are saying though. People nowadays, they think the world revolves around them. GREAT, you have a family, so do I. GREAT you have to do stuff with your kids, SO DO I. I am as much a father as my wife is a mother, our job of rasing the kids is equal. We both work, we both do our jobs at work and at home to the best of our ability.

People need to stop complaining. Work isnt easy. Any women that not doing their job and being a negative in the workforce find themselves no longer working at our company. You want to gossip? Do it on off hours, not at work. If guys want to talk about sports instead of job, same thing. Off hours. We dont target anything but productivity in a positive enviroment. You let one person slack, then they all slack.

Scream lawsuits, sure they might. But at the end of the day, an easy statistical analysis backed up by their qualifications clearly shows that our company is out to make our share holders happy, not quibble quabble over if someone is man/woman/green/yellow or pink.

I still hear stories all the time though. Just the other day I heard a manager made his employee give him a blow-job otherwise she would be fired.

She did, and kept her job. That is the stuff that we need to get rid of.

I wholeheartedly agree, and am glad to see a fair and objective viewpoint on the matter. Kudos, irev210. :wine:
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

I could make the exact same assertions about males in my former workplace (several of them were single fathers).

I'm not going to be obnoxious and make overgeneralizations like "cliffs: Men in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.", though. It's a shame you've had such experience, but blame it on the individuals themselves instead of generalizing such assertions to all women.

It's disappointing how many people take a handful of personal experiences and feel that gives them enough evidence to generalize to millions of others.

You appear to have some very serious and disturbing issues with misogyny.


For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered.Also, let's not forget that come divorce time these same guys would be screaming about how the lazy biatch needs to get off her arse and get a job.

That said, I've had to deal with people like the OP is complaining about and it's annoying
as all get out.If you KNOW you need certain days off for whatever reason, put your requests in way ahead of time, don't wait till last minute and then expect others to switch their plans.

You put it well Geekbabe.
 
I'm going to have to agree.

It makes you wish you lived 50 years ago when the men worked and the women stayed home. There's more then 1 reason why Human civilization has worked that way throughout our entire history, and has only changed in the last 20 years or so.

I know I may get flamed for that comment but I couldn't care less
 
Originally posted by: AMDZen
I'm going to have to agree.

It makes you wish you lived 50 years ago when the men worked and the women stayed home. There's more then 1 reason why Human civilization has worked that way throughout our entire history, and has only changed in the last 20 years or so.

I know I may get flamed for that comment but I couldn't care less

But we wouldn't be as developed without women. Think wartime. Women helped keep the country running. It was necessary. And it will be necessary again. Therefore it's wiser to keep women in the work place, so they are better equipped. Women and men generally complement eachother, women are more detail oriented, where men may be practical. Those are generalisations, but it's something along those lines.
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I have one and only one problem with working with women.

I'm a fairly quiet person, and I pretty much stay in my cubicle. Women translate that fact in a way that they think I'm a good listener. So they assume that I want to listen to them. Every job I've ever had, my office has become the "bitching spot". They gripe about their jobs, their hair, their coworkers, their workload, the color of the carpet, something their husband said last night, the movie they saw the day before their ninth birthday, the fact that their deodorent now only comes in unscented, their little doggy at home peeing all over the carpet, the fact that they aren't 16 anymore, how that damned George Bush ought to see things their way, how white paper would be so much prettier if it was pink, that Walmart is taking over the entire retail world, that smelling wet fingernail polish makes them feel all funny, that Clive down in accounting looked at them funny this morning, that typing nonstop all day is giving them brain cancer, that their butts have grown five sizes larger since just yesterday, that Krispy Kreme is skimping on the filling in their doughnuts, that everyone keeps screaming something about TPS reports, that someone in Engineering told a joke this morning that they just didn't get and nobody should be allowed to tell jokes in the workplace anyway, that its just so unfair that Barbara gets to take the mail to the mailbox every day, that last night at the club Billy put something in her drink and she can't remember a period of about three hours, that maxi-pads don't come in any larger sizes, and so on, ad nauseum.

But mostly, they just gripe about each other.

9/10, very impressive.
 
Originally posted by: Feldenak
I almost agree with him. It will be a frigid day in Hell when I reschedule my vacation days based around someone else's rugrats.

Yeah seriously. You shouldn't have to be required to do that just to accommodate someone else.
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I have one and only one problem with working with women.

I'm a fairly quiet person, and I pretty much stay in my cubicle. Women translate that fact in a way that they think I'm a good listener. So they assume that I want to listen to them. Every job I've ever had, my office has become the "bitching spot". They gripe about their jobs, their hair, their coworkers, their workload, the color of the carpet, something their husband said last night, the movie they saw the day before their ninth birthday, the fact that their deodorent now only comes in unscented, their little doggy at home peeing all over the carpet, the fact that they aren't 16 anymore, how that damned George Bush ought to see things their way, how white paper would be so much prettier if it was pink, that Walmart is taking over the entire retail world, that smelling wet fingernail polish makes them feel all funny, that Clive down in accounting looked at them funny this morning, that typing nonstop all day is giving them brain cancer, that their butts have grown five sizes larger since just yesterday, that Krispy Kreme is skimping on the filling in their doughnuts, that everyone keeps screaming something about TPS reports, that someone in Engineering told a joke this morning that they just didn't get and nobody should be allowed to tell jokes in the workplace anyway, that its just so unfair that Barbara gets to take the mail to the mailbox every day, that last night at the club Billy put something in her drink and she can't remember a period of about three hours, that maxi-pads don't come in any larger sizes, and so on, ad nauseum.

But mostly, they just gripe about each other.

Try being the only male in an entire law firm. I am expected to know everything related to the toilet, fridge, computers (which I do, as I set them up), why their car doesn't work, bug executions, etc. ON TOP of being 'Dr. Phil' for the office. If they weren't untouchably hot I'd have been out of here a while ago.
 
Its about 50-50 for me here at my company. some women are awesome and have my respect as a co-worker and fellow human. the other 50% are total bitches who i wouldnt piss on if they were on fire. they arent like that only to me the other people in my dept cant stand and have had run-ins with the bad 50%. I wish they would get fired they do nothing but bring down morale and just put us all in a bad mood when they come around wanting to pick a fight because one of their users forgot their god damn password for exchange and we havent gotten around to changing it yet.

but i do agree with you. i dont care if you are a man or woman you dont come to me and demand i change my vacation to fit your schedule. im pretty blunt and a demand like that would get a quick laugh in your face response.

 
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.

No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.

I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.

WTF? How does this have anything to do adapting to women in the workplace? Why should a worker give up their vacation time over another employee's obligations? She should have made advanced arrangements with the upper management.
 
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.

No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.

I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.


LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations! 😛



 
i don't konw about the women hating, but i agree w/the OP on his overall sentiment -- why should he change things up on his appointed vacations/sick days just for someone else?

 
I somewhat agree with the OP on this idea. It doesn't just happen in the corporate world, it happens in the service jobs too. I worked at a movie theatre for two years in highschool and it alwasy seems that the managers sympathized with the female employees more than the male employees. For instance, they would send a female employee home early before ever sending a male employee home. Also, the female employees were ALWAYS given the easier jobs. It sucked, but whatever. Suck it up and make a living. At my new job, I just don't talk to anyone on a regular basis.
 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: kukyfrope
I've noticed this trend a lot too, and this may contribute to why women get paid less? Just a thought.

I tried to explain this theory to my wife. Boy did she get pissed. All I said was that just because some one isn't laid off for taking a year off to have a baby doesn't mean they will get a raise for doing an outstanding job of not being at work.

You know some companies in China (Timberland, for example) hire women factory workers in their manufactuering plants. When they hit 25 years old, they automatically fire them because they do not want to pay medical coverages mandated by Chinese law in the event of the worker becoming preganant. I say the laws here are pretty good if you ask me.
 
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