montanafan
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Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.
No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.
I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.
LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations! 😛
Hey it's the resident teenage feminist. Your comment makes absolutely no sense, Alexandra. Re-read the post.
uh.
seriously.
In one year I've taken 1 sick day, 2 personal days (out of 15 personal days) and my vacation has 2 days left, rest is at the end of dec..
sygyzy, I'm not a teenager by a longshot and I did read the posts. Did you read mine? Is your sarcasm meter broken. 😕
armatron, and I'm a woman in the workforce with 200+ sick days saved up because I very rarely miss work. What was your point again?
my point is that out of the women I've worked with, your gender is 0 for 6. Of the men I've worked with, only ONE has had these types of mentalities. He was fired, on the spot, on his 5th day late without a valid excuse.
Then perhaps the problem lies with your company and their policies.
At my job there's the guy next to me who misses a couple of times a week just because he can. He should have retired long ago because he just isn't motivated to do the job anymore, but he doesn't want to give up the paycheck for a smaller retirement one. and I've had to cover for him many times in the past. Not this year though because I got my schedule changed so that I wouldn't be able to be utilized for covering for him. Now that task has gone to another colleague, who happens to be another woman who never misses. I feel for her every time I hear them ask, "Can you cover for...".
Then there's the other guy who misses just about every Friday and Monday, but we shouldn't mind because it's only in the fall and spring, that's when the golfing is best.
And there's the guy who misses just about every Friday from late August until sometime in December because his son plays football and he has to travel to go to all the games.
Then there's the guy who used to miss all the time and say he didn't care if they did fire him, his wife makes a lot more than him anyway so what does he care? And now he misses whenever he wants because he's going to be retiring at the end of the year and he says, what are they gonna do, fire me?
How about the guy who takes a week off every month or so because he and his wife have a condo at the beach they like to visit regularly and he gets away with it because he and the boss are good buddies who went to school together and have lunch together every day at work.
He's also the guy who got a project that pays a nice little supplement that I should have gotten because it always goes to the person with the most seniority and I was next in line. I didn't say anything about it because I'm not the radical feminist sygyzy seems to think I am, but the guy who got the project brought it up to me right after he got it and said he wanted me to know that he didn't have anything to do with it and didn't want me to be mad at him because he knew I should have gotten it. He told his buddy he thought it wasn't fair to me and he told him not to worry about it.
If all women in the workplace were as you say, I would have played the sexual discrimination card, but I didn't because I see this more as the buddies in the workplace thing than any kind of gender thing. That sort of thing happens all the time in the workplace regardless of gender.
I'm sorry that you've been unfortunate enough to work in a place with so many women who think that everyone else should rearrange their time off to placate their desire to be with their children, but I certainly don't blame them for wanting to spend time with their kids as often as they can get away with. I've seen it with men as well though, like the one who misses to go to the ballgames. I've also heard the, "well he/she doesn't have any kids and so shouldn't mind covering for those who do" thing as well and think it's a load of bull.
Like someone else said earlier, it's a people with a sense of entitlement problem though, not a gender problem. Whether these people get away with it or not is the responsibility of the people in charge and those are the ones you should be upset with if they are allowing it to cause problems for other people at work.
Boy my fingers are tired now. Maybe I'll take one of those 200+ sick days off tomorrow to recuperate and blame it on the problems working women have to deal with. 😉