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OMMFG: lady I work with is DEMANDING sick/vacation workarounds

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Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.

No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.

I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.


LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations! 😛


Hey it's the resident teenage feminist. Your comment makes absolutely no sense, Alexandra. Re-read the post.


uh.


seriously.

In one year I've taken 1 sick day, 2 personal days (out of 15 personal days) and my vacation has 2 days left, rest is at the end of dec..


sygyzy, I'm not a teenager by a longshot and I did read the posts. Did you read mine? Is your sarcasm meter broken. 😕


armatron, and I'm a woman in the workforce with 200+ sick days saved up because I very rarely miss work. What was your point again?


my point is that out of the women I've worked with, your gender is 0 for 6. Of the men I've worked with, only ONE has had these types of mentalities. He was fired, on the spot, on his 5th day late without a valid excuse.


Then perhaps the problem lies with your company and their policies.

At my job there's the guy next to me who misses a couple of times a week just because he can. He should have retired long ago because he just isn't motivated to do the job anymore, but he doesn't want to give up the paycheck for a smaller retirement one. and I've had to cover for him many times in the past. Not this year though because I got my schedule changed so that I wouldn't be able to be utilized for covering for him. Now that task has gone to another colleague, who happens to be another woman who never misses. I feel for her every time I hear them ask, "Can you cover for...".

Then there's the other guy who misses just about every Friday and Monday, but we shouldn't mind because it's only in the fall and spring, that's when the golfing is best.

And there's the guy who misses just about every Friday from late August until sometime in December because his son plays football and he has to travel to go to all the games.

Then there's the guy who used to miss all the time and say he didn't care if they did fire him, his wife makes a lot more than him anyway so what does he care? And now he misses whenever he wants because he's going to be retiring at the end of the year and he says, what are they gonna do, fire me?

How about the guy who takes a week off every month or so because he and his wife have a condo at the beach they like to visit regularly and he gets away with it because he and the boss are good buddies who went to school together and have lunch together every day at work.

He's also the guy who got a project that pays a nice little supplement that I should have gotten because it always goes to the person with the most seniority and I was next in line. I didn't say anything about it because I'm not the radical feminist sygyzy seems to think I am, but the guy who got the project brought it up to me right after he got it and said he wanted me to know that he didn't have anything to do with it and didn't want me to be mad at him because he knew I should have gotten it. He told his buddy he thought it wasn't fair to me and he told him not to worry about it.

If all women in the workplace were as you say, I would have played the sexual discrimination card, but I didn't because I see this more as the buddies in the workplace thing than any kind of gender thing. That sort of thing happens all the time in the workplace regardless of gender.

I'm sorry that you've been unfortunate enough to work in a place with so many women who think that everyone else should rearrange their time off to placate their desire to be with their children, but I certainly don't blame them for wanting to spend time with their kids as often as they can get away with. I've seen it with men as well though, like the one who misses to go to the ballgames. I've also heard the, "well he/she doesn't have any kids and so shouldn't mind covering for those who do" thing as well and think it's a load of bull.

Like someone else said earlier, it's a people with a sense of entitlement problem though, not a gender problem. Whether these people get away with it or not is the responsibility of the people in charge and those are the ones you should be upset with if they are allowing it to cause problems for other people at work.

Boy my fingers are tired now. Maybe I'll take one of those 200+ sick days off tomorrow to recuperate and blame it on the problems working women have to deal with. 😉



 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: montanafan


armatron, and I'm a woman in the workforce with 200+ sick days saved up because I very rarely miss work. What was your point again?

If we're not making generalizations, then why bother saying this?


You're kidding, right? 😕

 
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: montanafan

armatron, and I'm a woman in the workforce with 200+ sick days saved up because I very rarely miss work. What was your point again?

If we're not making generalizations, then why bother saying this?


You're kidding, right? 😕

You said that we shouldn't make generalizations. And then you throw out a tidbit that could only refute armatron's generalizations, and make his point invalid, by making it into another generalization.
 
Nice try at making a point by taking something out of context BigJ. I noticed you left out what I was responding to. BTW, it's called sarcasm.


Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.

No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.

I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.


LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations! 😛


Hey it's the resident teenage feminist. Your comment makes absolutely no sense, Alexandra. Re-read the post.


uh.


seriously.

In one year I've taken 1 sick day, 2 personal days (out of 15 personal days) and my vacation has 2 days left, rest is at the end of dec..


sygyzy, I'm not a teenager by a longshot and I did read the posts. Did you read mine? Is your sarcasm meter broken. 😕


armatron, and I'm a woman in the workforce with 200+ sick days saved up because I very rarely miss work. What was your point again?

 
Originally posted by: Patt
Whoa ... holy flamebait batman.

Simply refuse, and move on. Because one woman's a bitch doesn't mean they all are. My favorite co-workers happen to be women, and yes, some of them are mothers.

true...
 
same where I work, the women in the office always got some sick kid, or kid who missed the bus, or they get knocked up ever 9.5 months.

The guys get none of that.

Then again this is one of the reasons women get paid less. Any woman who bitches about getting paid less, should get her tubes tied. Then she'd have a case.
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

I could make the exact same assertions about males in my former workplace (several of them were single fathers).

I'm not going to be obnoxious and make overgeneralizations like "cliffs: Men in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.", though. It's a shame you've had such experience, but blame it on the individuals themselves instead of generalizing such assertions to all women.

It's disappointing how many people take a handful of personal experiences and feel that gives them enough evidence to generalize to millions of others.

You appear to have some very serious and disturbing issues with misogyny.


For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered.Also, let's not forget that come divorce time these same guys would be screaming about how the lazy biatch needs to get off her arse and get a job.

That said, I've had to deal with people like the OP is complaining about and it's annoying
as all get out.If you KNOW you need certain days off for whatever reason, put your requests in way ahead of time, don't wait till last minute and then expect others to switch their plans.

It would be nice if it was a handful, or 10% or something like that. This is gender-wide.


I can handle the divorce-excuse. This doesn't apply to this woman, or the power-issue problems, or the general 'losers' who don't need their job and it's obvious
. She's married and 'wants to work'. (doesn't NEED to, and points this out often)

I can assure you it isn't gender-wide, as I know some very powerful (but not power-hungry), assertive (but not controlling), respectful and competent women in the workforce. The former VP at a place I worked at for several years was a black female, and infinitely more able, competent, and reliable than the white male President. Do I think that all white males are problematic and incapable of performing their job functions because of this example? No.

It sounds like the individual you are complaining about is a major pain, but I wouldn't be so rash as to make assumptions about ALL women based on your experience with a limited number of females in one of thousands of companies and occupations.


I have STRESSED that it is MY experience, and it ISN'T one, or two, or three.

Don't get your panties in a wad, relatively speaking.

Dude if I knew you in real life you'd have been knocked out a couple of times already. You are an annoying, over-bearing whiny little nerd.

Amen to that
 
Disagree with the generalizations you're making about women, but agree that she's being demanding.

Can't believe 7 of your employees are pushovers who actually changed their schedule for her. That's ridiculous.
 
Don't worry, justice shall be served when that lady's kid grows up and kills the OP in a random carjacking because his mommy wasn't around enough when he was a kid
 
Hmmm...We have a thread by the mods who tell us to watch our language cuz there are ladies here. And yet "whore" seems to get a request for definition from the mods. I thought this was a "fail only test." Yes, he did not call her a vulgar description of the female anatomy, but the other name calling, not in jest, could be seen just as misogynistic.

I understand his pain in dealing with someoen who places their home life above that of work to the point it impacts the wrok and home life of those around them. It isn't fair and does not have to be tolerated. If this woman is his peer, then he has the right to go to their boss and tell him that it is unacceptiable to him, especially when plans have already been made in advance of this woman's.

If she is his boss then he has the rright to go over her head to her boss and ask this manager to consider her demands on the department.

Making demands is one thing, actually coming to fruition is another. And griping about it and doing nothing is even worse. The OP needs to put his cock back in his pants and work this thing out.
 
Originally posted by: Lizardman
😉
And just what proof are you offering up to support calling this woman a "whore"? :frown:

Mod


What proof do you have otherwise. He is just trying to vent a little 😉

Any proof he does offer, how are the Mods supposed to confirm it?
 
Originally posted by: irev210
I still hear stories all the time though. Just the other day I heard a manager made his employee give him a blow-job otherwise she would be fired.

She did, and kept her job. That is the stuff that we need to get rid of.

That still works?!?!
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I have one and only one problem with working with women.

I'm a fairly quiet person, and I pretty much stay in my cubicle. Women translate that fact in a way that they think I'm a good listener. So they assume that I want to listen to them. Every job I've ever had, my office has become the "bitching spot". They gripe about their jobs, their hair, their coworkers, their workload, the color of the carpet, something their husband said last night, the movie they saw the day before their ninth birthday, the fact that their deodorent now only comes in unscented, their little doggy at home peeing all over the carpet, the fact that they aren't 16 anymore, how that damned George Bush ought to see things their way, how white paper would be so much prettier if it was pink, that Walmart is taking over the entire retail world, that smelling wet fingernail polish makes them feel all funny, that Clive down in accounting looked at them funny this morning, that typing nonstop all day is giving them brain cancer, that their butts have grown five sizes larger since just yesterday, that Krispy Kreme is skimping on the filling in their doughnuts, that everyone keeps screaming something about TPS reports, that someone in Engineering told a joke this morning that they just didn't get and nobody should be allowed to tell jokes in the workplace anyway, that its just so unfair that Barbara gets to take the mail to the mailbox every day, that last night at the club Billy put something in her drink and she can't remember a period of about three hours, that maxi-pads don't come in any larger sizes, and so on, ad nauseum.

But mostly, they just gripe about each other.


that is hilarious!!!
😛
 
Originally posted by: Britboy
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

I could make the exact same assertions about males in my former workplace (several of them were single fathers).

I'm not going to be obnoxious and make overgeneralizations like "cliffs: Men in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.", though. It's a shame you've had such experience, but blame it on the individuals themselves instead of generalizing such assertions to all women.

It's disappointing how many people take a handful of personal experiences and feel that gives them enough evidence to generalize to millions of others.

You appear to have some very serious and disturbing issues with misogyny.


For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered.Also, let's not forget that come divorce time these same guys would be screaming about how the lazy biatch needs to get off her arse and get a job.

That said, I've had to deal with people like the OP is complaining about and it's annoying
as all get out.If you KNOW you need certain days off for whatever reason, put your requests in way ahead of time, don't wait till last minute and then expect others to switch their plans.

It would be nice if it was a handful, or 10% or something like that. This is gender-wide.


I can handle the divorce-excuse. This doesn't apply to this woman, or the power-issue problems, or the general 'losers' who don't need their job and it's obvious
. She's married and 'wants to work'. (doesn't NEED to, and points this out often)

I can assure you it isn't gender-wide, as I know some very powerful (but not power-hungry), assertive (but not controlling), respectful and competent women in the workforce. The former VP at a place I worked at for several years was a black female, and infinitely more able, competent, and reliable than the white male President. Do I think that all white males are problematic and incapable of performing their job functions because of this example? No.

It sounds like the individual you are complaining about is a major pain, but I wouldn't be so rash as to make assumptions about ALL women based on your experience with a limited number of females in one of thousands of companies and occupations.


I have STRESSED that it is MY experience, and it ISN'T one, or two, or three.

Don't get your panties in a wad, relatively speaking.

Dude if I knew you in real life you'd have been knocked out a couple of times already. You are an annoying, over-bearing whiny little nerd.

Amen to that

let the man rant. i wouldn't knock him out. I'll knock him up w/ a couple beers to talk about this BS that goes about the workplace. I'm sorry but I have to agree w/ his experience. I envy those who have had a pleasant experience around women in the workplace, I really do, since I have yet to have any. The only times were actually the ones who were quiet and never talked to me. they were the best women coworkers i've ever had. ACtually, it was only two i can remember 🙁.

when they needed my help, they requested it, no questions, no BS, no nothing.

unfortunately, outside of these 2, the other 10 or so I wanted to slap them. to the ladies here, i'm sorry, and I'm sure you ladies here are not as bad, but really,

let the OP RANT off about this. My friends, peers, family all complain about those couple of women in the workplace. It's COMMON. the OP has the right to complain because it is so common.

geezes, some people get really worked up about something that's actually the truth.
 
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
let the OP RANT off about this. My friends, peers, family all complain about those couple of women in the workplace. It's COMMON. the OP has the right to complain because it is so common.

geezes, some people get really worked up about something that's actually the truth.


QFT

 
I have to say, from my little experiance of working with women in the retail world:

When they want to, they can sell stuff left and right. When they don't, they sit around and half arse everything, or try to weasle out of work or leave early.

Back when I worked at a movie theater, there were some women who put a whole lot of work into the job. It made me happy to see more people in general, let alone chicks, working as hard as I did there.
 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I have one and only one problem with working with women.

I'm a fairly quiet person, and I pretty much stay in my cubicle. Women translate that fact in a way that they think I'm a good listener. So they assume that I want to listen to them. Every job I've ever had, my office has become the "bitching spot". They gripe about their jobs, their hair, their coworkers, their workload, the color of the carpet, something their husband said last night, the movie they saw the day before their ninth birthday, the fact that their deodorent now only comes in unscented, their little doggy at home peeing all over the carpet, the fact that they aren't 16 anymore, how that damned George Bush ought to see things their way, how white paper would be so much prettier if it was pink, that Walmart is taking over the entire retail world, that smelling wet fingernail polish makes them feel all funny, that Clive down in accounting looked at them funny this morning, that typing nonstop all day is giving them brain cancer, that their butts have grown five sizes larger since just yesterday, that Krispy Kreme is skimping on the filling in their doughnuts, that everyone keeps screaming something about TPS reports, that someone in Engineering told a joke this morning that they just didn't get and nobody should be allowed to tell jokes in the workplace anyway, that its just so unfair that Barbara gets to take the mail to the mailbox every day, that last night at the club Billy put something in her drink and she can't remember a period of about three hours, that maxi-pads don't come in any larger sizes, and so on, ad nauseum.

But mostly, they just gripe about each other.


that is hilarious!!!
😛

hahaha, that has to be one of the better rants i've seen lately 😛
 
Originally posted by: AMDZen
I'm going to have to agree.

It makes you wish you lived 50 years ago when the men worked and the women stayed home. There's more then 1 reason why Human civilization has worked that way throughout our entire history, and has only changed in the last 20 years or so.

I know I may get flamed for that comment but I couldn't care less

YUP. Eons and eons of our civilization working this way. 20 years of it not, and all of a sudden 3/4 of kids out there are raised by day-care or the television cause no one (father or mother) is home with the kids. FABULOUS!
 
This is why I pretend to have kids. Then I can call in because my kid is sick. Or say I need this day off for a school function, etc.
 
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.


WTGDF.

I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.


Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.

OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.

MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.

WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.




cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.

I'll say one thing - Her kids are lucky to have a mom like that.



word. It just sucks working with them tho
 
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