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OMG this is so sad

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from the wikipedia article, yes he did feel guilty for not doing more...however he was warned not to get too close to the starving children for fear of disease

but please don't judge him...there were hundreds of thousands of children just like this one girl. you don't know how you would be in the same scenario
 
Originally posted by: GeneValgene
from the wikipedia article, yes he did feel guilty for not doing more...however he was warned not to get too close to the starving children for fear of disease

but please don't judge him...there were hundreds of thousands of children just like this one girl. you don't know how you would be in the same scenario
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I suppose that is a plausible agrument. Disease DOES run rampant in Africa. However, I must say that it probably wouldn't have been a bad idea to drive to that UN camp to tell someone to come help him. He should have done at least something, rather than take the picture and jet, telling no one. That is what I would have done in that scenario, at least.
 
Originally posted by: eits
i posted a thread about darfur and, just like the way many other american's feel, no one cared. i bet maybe 3 people in all of atot actually took the time to write a breif letter to their congressperson and/or senator about helping out more in africa and helping african countries eliminate their debts to the world bank.

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You can't just wipe away the debt to fix the problem. The problem is more ingrained in the way their society works.
 
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: jndietz
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Why didn't the photographer take the kid to the camp?
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I was wondering the same thing. Maybe thats why he committed suicide--from guilt.
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He could have taken the photo and then brought the child to the hunger camp. Where was the kid's parents anyways?
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Quite possibly dead.
 
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: eits
i posted a thread about darfur and, just like the way many other american's feel, no one cared. i bet maybe 3 people in all of atot actually took the time to write a breif letter to their congressperson and/or senator about helping out more in africa and helping african countries eliminate their debts to the world bank.

🙁
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You can't just wipe away the debt to fix the problem. The problem is more ingrained in the way their society works.
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i'm not saying wipe the debt away... i'm saying help them wipe it away for themselves.
 
Originally posted by: GeneValgene
from the wikipedia article, yes he did feel guilty for not doing more...however he was warned not to get too close to the starving children for fear of disease

but please don't judge him...there were hundreds of thousands of children just like this one girl. you don't know how you would be in the same scenario
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If he is afraid of disease, why go in the first place?
 
Originally posted by: eits
i posted a thread about darfur and, just like the way many other american's feel, no one cared. i bet maybe 3 people in all of atot actually took the time to write a breif letter to their congressperson and/or senator about helping out more in africa and helping african countries eliminate their debts to the world bank.

🙁
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I wrote a letter to my congressman but I suggested nuking the place.

 
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: eits
i posted a thread about darfur and, just like the way many other american's feel, no one cared. i bet maybe 3 people in all of atot actually took the time to write a breif letter to their congressperson and/or senator about helping out more in africa and helping african countries eliminate their debts to the world bank.

🙁
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Once African countries start taking care of their civil wars, government corruption, slavery and religious oppression, then more will care. But African countries must take the first steps.
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the europeans made sure that that won't happen by drawing random-ass boundries for territories.
 
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: eits
i posted a thread about darfur and, just like the way many other american's feel, no one cared. i bet maybe 3 people in all of atot actually took the time to write a breif letter to their congressperson and/or senator about helping out more in africa and helping african countries eliminate their debts to the world bank.

🙁
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Once African countries start taking care of their civil wars, government corruption, slavery and religious oppression, then more will care. But African countries must take the first steps.
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I agree 100% with this. All the money in the world will not fix these issues.
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: GeneValgene
from the wikipedia article, yes he did feel guilty for not doing more...however he was warned not to get too close to the starving children for fear of disease

but please don't judge him...there were hundreds of thousands of children just like this one girl. you don't know how you would be in the same scenario
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If he is afraid of disease, why go in the first place?
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he was there to cover a local rebel movement

He later confided to friends that he wished he had intervened and helped the child. Journalists at the time were warned never to touch famine victims for fear of disease. This criticism and the death of a close friend, Ken Oosterbroek, who was shot and killed in Tokoza on April 18, 1994 while covering township violence, may have contributed to Carter's tragic suicide. On July 27, 1994 Carter drove to the Braamfonteinspruit river, near the Field and Study Center, an area he used to play at as a child, and took his own life by taping one end of a hose to his pickup truck?s exhaust pipe and running the other end to the passenger-side window. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning at the age of 33. The last person to see Carter alive was Oosterbroek's widow, Monica. Portions of Carter's suicide note read:
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"I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky."
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Journalists are not out in the field to change the news, thier job is to safely document what is going on in this world and bring it to other's attention. If this photographer had stepped in and helped this child, and gotten a disease, gotten sick and never able to process this photo, no one would have seen the reality of the situation in Sudan. I'm sure many more children were helped in Sudan because of what this photographer did than were worse off because he didn't get involved in the immediate situation.

Of course, a lot of you will still say it was a good thing that he got depressed and killed himself. To you I say grow up.
 
How many arguements are we going to have over the guy who snapped this picture? :roll:

Was it wrong for him not to help the kid after taking the picture? Perhaps, but what the hell are you going to do, honestly? There are scenes in life like this ALL THE TIME! You can't just take the kid somewhere, give him food, and think you saved him. The photographer was a professional who is use to scenes like this, that's what he's paid for, to take these horrible pictures because not many others could stomach it. He killed himself over guilt because of this picture in the end, does that tell you how horrible this man was now? It's a sad story for the kid, for the man, and for the countries where things like this happen DAILY! So honestly, STFU all of you unless you understand the story behind the picture.
 
Originally posted by: Kev
are you all sure he didnt take the kid after taking the picture?
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Well, according to the Wikipedia article, he did not help the child.

Of course then comes the question of the articles integrity...
 
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
How many arguements are we going to have over the guy who snapped this picture? :roll:

Was it wrong for him not to help the kid after taking the picture? Perhaps, but what the hell are you going to do, honestly? There are scenes in life like this ALL THE TIME! You can't just take the kid somewhere, give him food, and think you saved him. The photographer was a professional who is use to scenes like this, that's what he's paid for, to take these horrible pictures because not many others could stomach it. He killed himself over guilt because of this picture in the end, does that tell you how horrible this man was now? It's a sad story for the kid, for the man, and for the countries where things like this happen DAILY! So honestly, STFU all of you unless you understand the story behind the picture.
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QFT...very well said
 
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: eits
i posted a thread about darfur and, just like the way many other american's feel, no one cared. i bet maybe 3 people in all of atot actually took the time to write a breif letter to their congressperson and/or senator about helping out more in africa and helping african countries eliminate their debts to the world bank.

🙁
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Once African countries start taking care of their civil wars, government corruption, slavery and religious oppression, then more will care. But African countries must take the first steps.
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Agreed.. The best way to help them is let them help themselves. Sad.. but true.
 
Originally posted by: GeneValgene
from the wikipedia article, yes he did feel guilty for not doing more...however he was warned not to get too close to the starving children for fear of disease

but please don't judge him...there were hundreds of thousands of children just like this one girl. you don't know how you would be in the same scenario
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i do, for a fact, know how I would have acted. at the very least he could have covered his hands and ushered the kid to the UN camp.
 
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
How many arguements are we going to have over the guy who snapped this picture? :roll:

Was it wrong for him not to help the kid after taking the picture? Perhaps, but what the hell are you going to do, honestly? There are scenes in life like this ALL THE TIME! You can't just take the kid somewhere, give him food, and think you saved him. The photographer was a professional who is use to scenes like this, that's what he's paid for, to take these horrible pictures because not many others could stomach it. He killed himself over guilt because of this picture in the end, does that tell you how horrible this man was now? It's a sad story for the kid, for the man, and for the countries where things like this happen DAILY! So honestly, STFU all of you unless you understand the story behind the picture.
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Finally, a voice of reason in this thread.
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: eits
i posted a thread about darfur and, just like the way many other american's feel, no one cared. i bet maybe 3 people in all of atot actually took the time to write a breif letter to their congressperson and/or senator about helping out more in africa and helping african countries eliminate their debts to the world bank.

🙁
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Once African countries start taking care of their civil wars, government corruption, slavery and religious oppression, then more will care. But African countries must take the first steps.
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Agreed.. The best way to help them is let them help themselves. Sad.. but true.
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i disagree... i think the best way is to help them help themselves (for example, export jobs to africa, build them schools, promote GOOD politicians). to neglect them is not the way.
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Why didn't the photographer take the kid to the camp?
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Journalism.

One of the first rules (almost the prime directive, if I may) is that you do not interfere with the "wild life."

That means you don't help wounded soldiers, you don't help starving kids, etc etc.

Not all journalists follow this rule, and fewer and fewer do. But for decades thousands did.

Also keep in mind that top journalists see THOUSANDS of wounded/starving/poor people during their career. Yes they could try to help each one, or give them $5, but eventually they would be broke and/or wouldnt have time to file their reports.

BTW, there is a REASON for this rule: if a journalist helped a "rebel" soldier then the "government" forces might not talk to him any more (or vice versa).

Likewise, if a journalist helped every starving kid, he would not have time to take the pictures -- and no one in the world would know about the starving kids, and less aid would arrive.

Not a perfect rule, but there ARE reasons.
 
Did you just get an email with all these pics? I literally got it from my sister the second I clicked on this thread.
 
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