OMG the french are lazy

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, how can France, which is the less than twice the population California, have developed. on their own, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, build their own nuclear power plants that supply over 75 percent of their electricity, have one of the best universal health care systems in the world, send troops to fight in Afghanistan, build and run the fastest bullet trains in the world and still manage to have 35 hour work week and give almost the whole country the month of August for vacation?
Whatever it is they have, I hope we get some of it here in the U.S.

It is amazing how California a state with less than 1/2 of france population spends more on medical research than the whole nation of france. How it has done more to advance humanity in most areas of scientific research, and how it has some of the best Universities in the world.

Actually France is in the forefront of medical research. The Pastuer Institute is on of the best in the world. In fact, the French were the first to isolate the HIV virus. And California universities and research centers are to a great extent because of California being part of a much larger and far richer country than France, the U.S.

PerCapita spent on medical research in france is WAY WAY less than the U.S. And France isn't at the forefront of the Medical Research, the U.S is. Most medical advancements come from the U.S, and more come from California than France. On Cancer research for example, the state of California spends over three times that of france, despite having a smaller GDP than france.

 

[dr150]

Euro hours and vacations are great,

This is the way it SHOULD be here in the US.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: DVK916
PerCapita spent on medical research in france is WAY WAY less than the U.S. And France isn't at the forefront of the Medical Research, the U.S is. Most medical advancements come from the U.S, and more come from California than France. On Cancer research for example, the state of California spends over three times that of france, despite having a smaller GDP than france.

You don't happen to have a link for this information do you? I'm having trouble finding it off of google.

 

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: Jawo

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: mrzed

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, how can France, which is the less than twice the population California, have developed. on their own, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, build their own nuclear power plants that supply over 75 percent of their electricity, have one of the best universal health care systems in the world, send troops to fight in Afghanistan, build and run the fastest bullet trains in the world and still manage to have 35 hour work week and give almost the whole country the month of August for vacation?
Whatever it is they have, I hope we get some of it here in the U.S.

It is amazing how California a state with less than 1/2 of france population spends more on medical research than the whole nation of france. How it has done more to advance humanity in most areas of scientific research, and how it has some of the best Universities in the world.

It's amazing how a nation of cheese-eating, job-napping, surrender monkeys somehow managed to articulate most of the Republican ideas that were adopted by the founding fathers of the USA and provide not only the inspriration behind the American Revolution, but military and diplomatic support, and a nice statue to celebrate the fact.

Bloody French and Americans. You two countries are totally gay for each other but you're so in the closet about it that you have to punch each other's shoulder constantly to prove your manhood. It was so much better ~200 years ago when you were more open about it.

err...which were largely developed out of the British philosophies

America always had a lot more in common with the Brits than the French. It was an accident of history (and equally so British misjudgment) that the French Monarchy aided the American Revolution.

Personally I don't give a crap. If the French want to take a nap after lunch they can, it doesn't affect me in the slightest.

It was a lot of persuasion of Ben Franklin that got the French involved. Remember at the time the were bitter rivals. France hates England, therefore France likes the US. At the time the US was about the VERY FIRST colony to revolt against the King of England.

We actually fought for our freedom, not politely ask for it to be granted over a period of nearly 6 score!

Well, how'd the French "inspire" us? Also, their helping us kinda buttfucked them back home with their own little revolution and all.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: mrzed

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, how can France, which is the less than twice the population California, have developed. on their own, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, build their own nuclear power plants that supply over 75 percent of their electricity, have one of the best universal health care systems in the world, send troops to fight in Afghanistan, build and run the fastest bullet trains in the world and still manage to have 35 hour work week and give almost the whole country the month of August for vacation?
Whatever it is they have, I hope we get some of it here in the U.S.

It is amazing how California a state with less than 1/2 of france population spends more on medical research than the whole nation of france. How it has done more to advance humanity in most areas of scientific research, and how it has some of the best Universities in the world.

It's amazing how a nation of cheese-eating, job-napping, surrender monkeys somehow managed to articulate most of the Republican ideas that were adopted by the founding fathers of the USA and provide not only the inspriration behind the American Revolution, but military and diplomatic support, and a nice statue to celebrate the fact.

Bloody French and Americans. You two countries are totally gay for each other but you're so in the closet about it that you have to punch each other's shoulder constantly to prove your manhood. It was so much better ~200 years ago when you were more open about it.

life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... where in there does it say the government owes me money or healthcare?

The same place where they found abortions should be legal and separation of church and state.

 

[0roo0roo]

eh, don't worry it'll be self correcting once they get hit by massive loads of retirees supported by less young folk. yea i know france isn't as bad as some of the euro states when it comes to that. either way, once the rest of asia/china/india comes online to compete with the eu in the areas they currently are comfortable with they will suffer.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: sygyzy
And yet other countries are more productive than the US...

yeap.
i put most of the blame on the fact people/company's think you need to wrok 50-60 hour work weeks.
I would rather work 6 hours of productive work then 10+ of semi productive work.
i think to many work the long hours and get tired and worn out. day after day of that is not going to help

Well, I "work" in a microchip fab. Its 12-hour shifts but only 3-4 days a week.
Did the math and I only put in 2000 hours a year, so I'm doing OK.
And I dont bust my ass the entire 12 hours. I can go for three hours at a time with nothing breaking. So I just sit and chill, maybe read an online book or something similar (cant have paper in there).


EDIT: And the only countries more productive than America are ones where they work as many hours or more hours than us. The asians come to mind. Also germans put in a lot of time at work, but they do seem to get more output for it too.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, how can France, which is the less than twice the population California, have developed. on their own, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, build their own nuclear power plants that supply over 75 percent of their electricity, have one of the best universal health care systems in the world, send troops to fight in Afghanistan, build and run the fastest bullet trains in the world and still manage to have 35 hour work week and give almost the whole country the month of August for vacation?
Whatever it is they have, I hope we get some of it here in the U.S.

It is amazing how California a state with less than 1/2 of france population spends more on medical research than the whole nation of france. How it has done more to advance humanity in most areas of scientific research, and how it has some of the best Universities in the world.

Actually France is in the forefront of medical research. The Pastuer Institute is on of the best in the world. In fact, the French were the first to isolate the HIV virus. And California universities and research centers are to a great extent because of California being part of a much larger and far richer country than France, the U.S.

PerCapita spent on medical research in france is WAY WAY less than the U.S. And France isn't at the forefront of the Medical Research, the U.S is. Most medical advancements come from the U.S, and more come from California than France. On Cancer research for example, the state of California spends over three times that of france, despite having a smaller GDP than france.

Uh, you ARE aware that the U.S. spends TWICE as much per capita on health care than France, yet the French get far better care for their money? The US health care system can claim many things. One of which is that it is the most wasteful and overpriced in the world by a huge margin.

 

[HannibalX]

It's their country and they can make it how they want it. I don't have a problem with them making their own laws.

People here in the US: If you don't like our work week then lobby your local government and your state/fed reps to change it.

 

[dennilfloss]

Overworking is sooooooooo Puritan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, how can France, which is the less than twice the population California, have developed. on their own, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, build their own nuclear power plants that supply over 75 percent of their electricity, have one of the best universal health care systems in the world, send troops to fight in Afghanistan, build and run the fastest bullet trains in the world and still manage to have 35 hour work week and give almost the whole country the month of August for vacation?
Whatever it is they have, I hope we get some of it here in the U.S.

It is amazing how California a state with less than 1/2 of france population spends more on medical research than the whole nation of france. How it has done more to advance humanity in most areas of scientific research, and how it has some of the best Universities in the world.

Actually France is in the forefront of medical research. The Pastuer Institute is on of the best in the world. In fact, the French were the first to isolate the HIV virus. And California universities and research centers are to a great extent because of California being part of a much larger and far richer country than France, the U.S.

PerCapita spent on medical research in france is WAY WAY less than the U.S. And France isn't at the forefront of the Medical Research, the U.S is. Most medical advancements come from the U.S, and more come from California than France. On Cancer research for example, the state of California spends over three times that of france, despite having a smaller GDP than france.

Uh, you ARE aware that the U.S. spends TWICE as much per capita on health care than France, yet the French get far better care for their money? The US health care system can claim many things. One of which is that it is the most wasteful and overpriced in the world by a huge margin.

depends how you measure it. better care for their money? i if you think universal coverage is better care sure. if you are talking about quality of care the people with good insurance in the us get better care.

as for research, total money spent on research in the us dwarfs france.

 

[loic2003]

Here's how it reads to me:

"oh no! the french actually live a half decent lifestlye with decent food and decent working conditions! They must be terrible people, compared to us getting what, an hour's vacation per year and being forced to work 18 hour days. What? They've got the best social services (free healthcare? madness!) and the state actually looks after the people instead of scaremongering and brainwashing all the time? Bah! surrender monkies! They were too stupid to join us in the 'leberation' of iraq, and actually stood up to our dear leader [NK reference there for the not-so-sharp] and told him to fvck off! Go eat cheese, France, you're soooo backwards! where my hamberger?"


/rant. The french lifestyle rocks, people. Don't knock it. Look what the country is achieving.... you can't argue with results!

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: loic2003
Here's how it reads to me:

"oh no! the french actually live a half decent lifestlye with decent food and decent working conditions! They must be terrible people, compared to us getting what, an hour's vacation per year and being forced to work 18 hour days. What? They've got the best social services (free healthcare? madness!) and the state actually looks after the people instead of scaremongering and brainwashing all the time? Bah! surrender monkies! They were too stupid to join us in the 'leberation' of iraq, and actually stood up to our dear leader [NK reference there for the not-so-sharp] and told him to fvck off! Go eat cheese, France, you're soooo backwards! where my hamberger?"


/rant. The french lifestyle rocks, people. Don't knock it. Look what the country is achieving.... you can't argue with results!

Someone's a little off-base...

 

[loic2003]

yeah sorry. Pre lunch rant. French-bashing sometimes annoys me.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: loic2003
Here's how it reads to me:

"oh no! the french actually live a half decent lifestlye with decent food and decent working conditions! They must be terrible people, compared to us getting what, an hour's vacation per year and being forced to work 18 hour days. What? They've got the best social services (free healthcare? madness!) and the state actually looks after the people instead of scaremongering and brainwashing all the time? Bah! surrender monkies! They were too stupid to join us in the 'leberation' of iraq, and actually stood up to our dear leader [NK reference there for the not-so-sharp] and told him to fvck off! Go eat cheese, France, you're soooo backwards! where my hamberger?"


/rant. The french lifestyle rocks, people. Don't knock it. Look what the country is achieving.... you can't argue with results!

lol....I think someone forgot their pill this morning

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Perhaps they believe more in working to live rather than living to work. The mentality in the USA is to work work work work work then die. That's no way to live. Travel the world and you'll see just how messed up our 'live to work' mentality is in the USA.

QFT!
Most North Americans have no idea... and please notice I say North Americans, 'cause I'm including Canada in this discussion.

Frankly, after my last trip to Europe, in December, I'm more and more inclined to move there...

 

[eleison]

Didn't france just have a major race riot??? Also, wasn't there a student riot becaues of the high unemployment among younger folks???

France, it isn't that great....

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Perhaps they believe more in working to live rather than living to work. The mentality in the USA is to work work work work work then die. That's no way to live. Travel the world and you'll see just how messed up our 'live to work' mentality is in the USA.

QFT!
Most North Americans have no idea... and please notice I say North Americans, 'cause I'm including Canada in this discussion.

Frankly, after my last trip to Europe, in December, I'm more and more inclined to move there...

No way, you need to save every penny you get! Enjoying life is overrated

I work for a French company, so I get exposed to a lot of the cultural differences. Their work ethic does suck, though. If the X.400 is down at 11am EST, you can bet it will stay down until they come back to work. It's the mentality there. They don't understand why our American customers are so pissed off because of late shipments. The urgency isn't there.

On the other side, lots of them choose to move to the US to work at the facilities here. I'm not sure why.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: torpid
WTF... how many people directly contribute money to research from their paycheck? Almost no one. If our government spends more on research than the french government, how does that make YOU as a worker less lazy? That's like saying canadians are less lazy than americans because they spend more money on health care.

Who said anything about workers in france being more lazy. I was pointing out that each country has priorities in different areas.

Really? So when you wrote:

Originally posted by: DVK916
Europeans are also to lazy to contribute money to scientific research.

That had nothing to do with claiming working people in france are lazy beacuse they don't spend their money on research? So what was the point of it, in this thread about french workers being lazy? In general, why do you post anything if you are just going to spit out random nonsense and then claim you didn't say it later when asked what it has to do with the topic?