Sorc is definitely the way to start out if you want to ever get yourself into the economy of high end items without paying real cash. Hammerdins are better at Baal runs, which is probably the fastest way to get high end items, but their effectiveness in Hell mode is highly dependent on gear that you will neither find nor be able to trade for by the time you reach level 70-80.
Cold sorcs can be a pain to level until you get frozen orb (thats the top tier cold sorc spell iirc?), but are definitely the least gear dependent MF character you can make, and the gear you need to turn them in to a top tier MFer is fairly cheap and you will likely find pieces of it as you level. My recommendation is to find someone to rush you through normal and do Baal runs until they don't give much exp (I don't remember what level that is), then do the same for nightmare and hell. Normal mode can be hard to find a rusher for if you don't have a friend, the normal pay for a rush is your Hellforge drops (gems and rune words), but normal mode drops are crappy so there isn't a lot of people out there bothering with it. Nightmare is a lot easier to find a rusher because the Hellforge drops are decent enough that theres an economy for them. However, hell mode Hellforge can drop even the most valuable rune words (again, iirc, my memory is a bit fuzzy), so you may not want to give them up, as a top tier rune word could pay for an entire top tier set of cold sorc MF gear and more.
Anyways, once you get to level 60-70 through Baal runs, you can start doing nightmare Mephisto/Baal runs on your own or rush other players for their Hellforge drops, gather up some currency to trade for top tier MF'ing gear. Once you've got a decked out MF'er, you can take on hell mode runs solo (though if you go pure cold, beware of cold immune mobs - some people go hybrid frozen orb / meteor, it seems to work just fine but I never bothered to make one), gather up even more currency and eventually find / trade for the items for a Hammerdin or whatever character you want to build.
Alternatively, you can just play through the game the way it was meant to be played and enjoy yourself
You might want to stay out of multiplayer if thats the case though. I've rebooted my D2 career a number of times in the last few years, and theres very little community around just running around and playing through the game normally as a group. Playing on multiplayer servers will get you spammed with bots and all sorts of crap, and you'll have random twinks run into your game with the absolute best gear they could possibly have at their level (purchased/found from their other high level chars of course), who are around your same level but just rip through the mobs like their made of paper. Or people join your game and go do your quest objectives while you aren't there, making you have to restart a new instance because you didn't get credit for it. Then of course theres the problem of almost everyone having auto-loot hacks that let them pick up every item of any value instantly before you even realize what it is. Oh, don't forget the constant spam, in chat channels, in game, and in whispers even when you lock your game out from anyone else joining. Honestly, the last time I tried to restart D2, thats literally the reason I quit and I hadn't even made it to level 10. Its just annoying as all fucking hell to have half your screen constantly covered in spam.
Cold sorcs can be a pain to level until you get frozen orb (thats the top tier cold sorc spell iirc?), but are definitely the least gear dependent MF character you can make, and the gear you need to turn them in to a top tier MFer is fairly cheap and you will likely find pieces of it as you level. My recommendation is to find someone to rush you through normal and do Baal runs until they don't give much exp (I don't remember what level that is), then do the same for nightmare and hell. Normal mode can be hard to find a rusher for if you don't have a friend, the normal pay for a rush is your Hellforge drops (gems and rune words), but normal mode drops are crappy so there isn't a lot of people out there bothering with it. Nightmare is a lot easier to find a rusher because the Hellforge drops are decent enough that theres an economy for them. However, hell mode Hellforge can drop even the most valuable rune words (again, iirc, my memory is a bit fuzzy), so you may not want to give them up, as a top tier rune word could pay for an entire top tier set of cold sorc MF gear and more.
Anyways, once you get to level 60-70 through Baal runs, you can start doing nightmare Mephisto/Baal runs on your own or rush other players for their Hellforge drops, gather up some currency to trade for top tier MF'ing gear. Once you've got a decked out MF'er, you can take on hell mode runs solo (though if you go pure cold, beware of cold immune mobs - some people go hybrid frozen orb / meteor, it seems to work just fine but I never bothered to make one), gather up even more currency and eventually find / trade for the items for a Hammerdin or whatever character you want to build.
Alternatively, you can just play through the game the way it was meant to be played and enjoy yourself
You might want to stay out of multiplayer if thats the case though. I've rebooted my D2 career a number of times in the last few years, and theres very little community around just running around and playing through the game normally as a group. Playing on multiplayer servers will get you spammed with bots and all sorts of crap, and you'll have random twinks run into your game with the absolute best gear they could possibly have at their level (purchased/found from their other high level chars of course), who are around your same level but just rip through the mobs like their made of paper. Or people join your game and go do your quest objectives while you aren't there, making you have to restart a new instance because you didn't get credit for it. Then of course theres the problem of almost everyone having auto-loot hacks that let them pick up every item of any value instantly before you even realize what it is. Oh, don't forget the constant spam, in chat channels, in game, and in whispers even when you lock your game out from anyone else joining. Honestly, the last time I tried to restart D2, thats literally the reason I quit and I hadn't even made it to level 10. Its just annoying as all fucking hell to have half your screen constantly covered in spam.Alternatively, you can just play through the game the way it was meant to be played and enjoy yourself
This is wise advice. The way my friends and I played was we all start at level 1, and played those characters through hell mode together on LAN. We were pretty loyal too, not playing without the full party, so as a result we had many sub parties going on. I have 8 level ~80 characters that I have taken through hell mode with people on LAN. Such a blast.
Word. It doesn't look right. Not just the non-native resolution, but the darkness of CRTs really made games like SC and Diablo 2 look right. Now get off my lawn.
And F multiquote
I find it hard to play now, the graphics looking terrible. Maybe that does have something to do with LCD, but it's not like that on other games.
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Well the good news, I'm able to get a hand on some good gear while doing baal runs hell mode + the amazon is lvl 85 now.
The bad news, I got temporarily restricted from the realm. really, wtf was that.
The bad news, I got temporarily restricted from the realm. really, wtf was that.
Maximilian
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Oooo i forgot about that!! That was another reason i quit originally. In patch 1.10 several years ago they implemented this anti-bot thing that basically locks you out if you log in/out too quickly or too many times, it thinks you are a bot. Its a load of bullshit because it just screws with legit players, shame its still like that
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Oooo i forgot about that!! That was another reason i quit originally. In patch 1.10 several years ago they implemented this anti-bot thing that basically locks you out if you log in/out too quickly or too many times, it thinks you are a bot. Its a load of bullshit because it just screws with legit players, shame its still like that
son of a
f that crap lol. With computers these days, how can one log in/log out too not too quickly lols !
Oooo i forgot about that!! That was another reason i quit originally. In patch 1.10 several years ago they implemented this anti-bot thing that basically locks you out if you log in/out too quickly or too many times, it thinks you are a bot. Its a load of bullshit because it just screws with legit players, shame its still like that
Yeah its crap, and it does nothing to stop the bots. All it does is screw with people trying to mule their crap.
Farmer
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When I just want to refresh my remaining few chars I've refreshed for years - did I mention I hate their design - I have to wait while doing it or it won't log any more on.
JamesV
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No it wasn't.
To mule, all you do is sit in a private game for 5 minutes to 'perm' the game. Then you can leave and leisurely come back a few minutes later (game will still be there).
The anti-bot thing was to stop players from doing super-quick runs for loot. The two small bosses (Shenk + ?) from the 5th act's first WP - I could run those in less than 30 seconds (15 with a tele-sorc), and they both could drop some really nice stuff.
Also the Meph runs with maphack could be done in less than a minute with a tele-sorc, and Blizz did have a good reason for the 'too-quick' drop and start for that alone.
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krnmastersgt
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Pssh maphacks are for sissies!
And yeah Diablo 2 probably took up more of my time than any other game I can think of. Starcraft and Ragnarok Online being second I believe.
I always miss just how awesome the game was for its time, download the installed from Blizzard. Load it up and get all excited. Then uninstall 30 minutes later because I remember how boring it is when you've done every single possible thing in the game to death. Couldn't think of a build that I hadn't done so I just decided to hang it up till they released a big content patch, which I don't think they have since 1.10 or 1.11, just ladder resets and a few bug fixes.
Great game, but I belong in the category of "Played Way Too Much".
And yeah Diablo 2 probably took up more of my time than any other game I can think of. Starcraft and Ragnarok Online being second I believe.
I always miss just how awesome the game was for its time, download the installed from Blizzard. Load it up and get all excited. Then uninstall 30 minutes later because I remember how boring it is when you've done every single possible thing in the game to death. Couldn't think of a build that I hadn't done so I just decided to hang it up till they released a big content patch, which I don't think they have since 1.10 or 1.11, just ladder resets and a few bug fixes.
Great game, but I belong in the category of "Played Way Too Much".
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Farmer
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Sorc is definitely the way to start out if you want to ever get yourself into the economy of high end items without paying real cash. Hammerdins are better at Baal runs, which is probably the fastest way to get high end items, but their effectiveness in Hell mode is highly dependent on gear that you will neither find nor be able to trade for by the time you reach level 70-80.
Cold sorcs can be a pain to level until you get frozen orb (thats the top tier cold sorc spell iirc?), but are definitely the least gear dependent MF character you can make, and the gear you need to turn them in to a top tier MFer is fairly cheap and you will likely find pieces of it as you level. My recommendation is to find someone to rush you through normal and do Baal runs until they don't give much exp (I don't remember what level that is), then do the same for nightmare and hell. Normal mode can be hard to find a rusher for if you don't have a friend, the normal pay for a rush is your Hellforge drops (gems and rune words), but normal mode drops are crappy so there isn't a lot of people out there bothering with it. Nightmare is a lot easier to find a rusher because the Hellforge drops are decent enough that theres an economy for them. However, hell mode Hellforge can drop even the most valuable rune words (again, iirc, my memory is a bit fuzzy), so you may not want to give them up, as a top tier rune word could pay for an entire top tier set of cold sorc MF gear and more.
Anyways, once you get to level 60-70 through Baal runs, you can start doing nightmare Mephisto/Baal runs on your own or rush other players for their Hellforge drops, gather up some currency to trade for top tier MF'ing gear. Once you've got a decked out MF'er, you can take on hell mode runs solo (though if you go pure cold, beware of cold immune mobs - some people go hybrid frozen orb / meteor, it seems to work just fine but I never bothered to make one), gather up even more currency and eventually find / trade for the items for a Hammerdin or whatever character you want to build.
Alternatively, you can just play through the game the way it was meant to be played and enjoy yourself
I haven't played since 2006 but I thought Blizz Sorc was the best MF'er?
By the time you get to the late stages in hell mode, Frozen Orb won't do jack shit.
But like I said...I haven't played since 2006 so they may have changed a bunch of things in different patches.
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