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Curiel and his National Guard escorts, were returning to the hospital after dropping off patients at nearby Tulane Medical Center, when someone started shooting at their convoy of Humvees.

"We were coming in from a parking deck at Tulane Medical Center, and a guy in a white shirt started firing at us," Curiel said. "The National Guard (troops), wearing flak jackets, tried to get a bead on this guy. "
too bad they didn't get him
 
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Its Al Sharpton!

Fsck you!


And Welcome to the WOrld ThAT BuSH Built!

So now we're blaming Bush for Category 4 hurricanes that hit the US.

i wished you lived in new orleans you idiot .....with your crappy high school kid typing skills
 
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Holy sh1t...

They need to get the National Guard down there NOW with strict orders to shoot to kill.

They are a little busy keeping "mushroom clouds" out of our cities by playing in Iraq.
 
Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Its Al Sharpton!

Fsck you!


And Welcome to the WOrld ThAT BuSH Built!

So now we're blaming Bush for Category 4 hurricanes that hit the US.

i wished you lived in new orleans you idiot .....with your crappy high school kid typing skills
Yea and blaming Al Sharpton is any better you turd bucket.

 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Its Al Sharpton!

Fsck you!


And Welcome to the WOrld ThAT BuSH Built!

So now we're blaming Bush for Category 4 hurricanes that hit the US.

i wished you lived in new orleans you idiot .....with your crappy high school kid typing skills
Yea and blaming Al Sharpton is any better you turd bucket.

check yer sarcasm meter
 
The United Statest government is failing the people in New Orleans right now.

Cries for help spread across New Orleans
Local official blames FEMA for ?national disgrace?; mayor issues ?SOS?


Fights and fires broke out, corpses lay out in the open, and rescue helicopters and law enforcement officers were shot at as flood-stricken New Orleans slipped toward anarchy Thursday.

?This is a desperate SOS,? the mayor said.

Anger mounted across the city as thousands of storm victims grew increasingly hungry, desperate and tired of waiting for buses to take them out.

Officials said thousands more National Guardsmen were being sent to the city, and Congress planned a special session Thursday night to approve emergency aid. But across the city, residents complained that aid was not arriving and a local official blamed the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

?This is a national disgrace,? said Terry Ebbert, head of New Orleans? emergency operations. ?FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control,? Ebbert said. ?We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims but we can?t bail out the city of New Orleans."

"We have got a mayor who has been pushing and asking but we?re not getting supplies,? he said. He said the evacuation was almost entirely a Louisiana operation. ?This is not a FEMA operation. I haven?t seen a single FEMA guy.?

An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered with a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

?I don?t treat my dog like that,? Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. ?I buried my dog.?

?You can do everything for other countries but you can?t do nothing for your own people," he said. "You can go overseas with the military but you can?t get them down here.?

The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.

?We are out here like pure animals. We don?t have help,? said the Rev. Isaac Clark, 68.

People there, some holding crying babies or elderly barely able to stand up, shouted for help as TV news crews passed by.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/
 
Fights and fires broke out, corpses lay out in the open, and rescue helicopters and law enforcement officers were shot at as flood-stricken New Orleans slipped toward anarchy Thursday.
Sounds like the American people are failing the government.
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Its Al Sharpton!

Fsck you!


And Welcome to the WOrld ThAT BuSH Built!

So now we're blaming Bush for Category 4 hurricanes that hit the US.

i wished you lived in new orleans you idiot .....with your crappy high school kid typing skills
Yea and blaming Al Sharpton is any better you turd bucket.

huh? not sure what you mean b/c i probably didnt read it....the world bush built? cmon this guy cant be for real.

 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Holy sh1t...

They need to get the National Guard down there NOW with strict orders to shoot to kill.

They are a little busy keeping "mushroom clouds" out of our cities by playing in Iraq.

playing?

the day will come where its gonna happen, mushroom clouds in one of our cities. Dont think its not a REAL threat.
 
Originally posted by: Armitage
I'm beginning to think we should just build the levees higher, put barbed wire & guards around it, and abandon New Orleans in place. There's nothing left there worth saving :| I know thjat's overly cynical - I'm sure there are alot of good people simply trapped in a bad situation, and we just hear about the worst of it. But the worst is pretty bad.

It makes you realize how close to anarchy we really are though. Despite all our pretenses, humans are not inherently civilized. We are externally civilized by the institutions we've built up for that purpose, but strip those away and we're right back down there with the animals in less then 3 days.

Correction, "some" people. Many/most are acting decent given the circumstances
 
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Fights and fires broke out, corpses lay out in the open, and rescue helicopters and law enforcement officers were shot at as flood-stricken New Orleans slipped toward anarchy Thursday.
Sounds like the American people are failing the government.
Thats not what the officials in Louisiana are saying. Sorry but the truth is against you. No one has seen a single FEMA official on the ground.

Bolded for idiots:
An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered with a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

?I don?t treat my dog like that,? Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. ?I buried my dog.?

?You can do everything for other countries but you can?t do nothing for your own people," he said. "You can go overseas with the military but you can?t get them down here.?

The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.

?We are out here like pure animals. We don?t have help,? said the Rev. Isaac Clark, 68.

People there, some holding crying babies or elderly barely able to stand up, shouted for help as TV news crews passed by.

Officials said thousands more National Guardsmen were being sent to the city, and Congress planned a special session Thursday night to approve emergency aid. But across the city, residents complained that aid was not arriving and a local official blamed the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

?This is a national disgrace,? said Terry Ebbert, head of New Orleans? emergency operations. ?FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control,? Ebbert said. ?We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims but we can?t bail out the city of New Orleans."

"We have got a mayor who has been pushing and asking but we?re not getting supplies,? he said. He said the evacuation was almost entirely a Louisiana operation. ?This is not a FEMA operation. I haven?t seen a single FEMA guy.?
 
Originally posted by: DaShen
Public gun carrying in N.O. should follow with SHOOT ON SIGHT. I guarantee the shooting would stop although Bush would look even more like a hard-liner. Then when things die down and civility gains ground, things will get back to normal.

And so when someone innocent is "shot on sight" because he's trying to protect his family from all the thieves and thugs....what are you going to say?
 
Originally posted by: Armitage
I'm beginning to think we should just build the levees higher, put barbed wire & guards around it, and abandon New Orleans in place. There's nothing left there worth saving :| I know thjat's overly cynical - I'm sure there are alot of good people simply trapped in a bad situation, and we just hear about the worst of it. But the worst is pretty bad.

It makes you realize how close to anarchy we really are though. Despite all our pretenses, humans are not inherently civilized. We are externally civilized by the institutions we've built up for that purpose, but strip those away and we're right back down there with the animals in less then 3 days.

Speak for yourself. I might go "find" some food and water, but I certainly wouldn't be stealing TVs, turning over ambulances, shooting at the National Guard, or killing my sister for a bag of ice. If I shot at anybody, it'd be self-defense against a Rodney King-style hate mob, so they wouldn't steal my sneakers or bash my brains in to get back at "society".
 
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: DaShen
Public gun carrying in N.O. should follow with SHOOT ON SIGHT. I guarantee the shooting would stop although Bush would look even more like a hard-liner. Then when things die down and civility gains ground, things will get back to normal.

And so when someone innocent is "shot on sight" because he's trying to protect his family from all the thieves and thugs....what are you going to say?
Thats easy - he was black!

/sarcasm
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: DaShen
Public gun carrying in N.O. should follow with SHOOT ON SIGHT. I guarantee the shooting would stop although Bush would look even more like a hard-liner. Then when things die down and civility gains ground, things will get back to normal.

And so when someone innocent is "shot on sight" because he's trying to protect his family from all the thieves and thugs....what are you going to say?
Thats easy - he was black!

/sarcasm

Shouldn't you be planning a "People's Revolution" and worshipping at the altar of Che, Lenin, Stalin, and Castro? How do you find the time to post here?
 
Now, just as a precursor to stave off any whiners, I don't want to hear $hit when a US Army soldier actually has to shoot one of these people. I don't want to hear about Iraq, body armor, automatic weapons, military killing US civilians, none of it. I agree that this is a slippery slope we're on. Quite frankly, I'm starting to fear something akin to Kent State happening here, I hope to god it doesn't. These people should have left the city by any means necessary. They are not elderly or medically unable to ask for a ride or otherwise leave under their own power. They chose to stay and endure the devistation that they knew the hurricane would wreak upon the city and now they are choosing to allow people to act like this as well. So when the US Army comes in and mops up this place using recent experience in the streets of Baghdad, which at this point sound about as secure as NO does, don't come crying to these forums about some kind of injustice or "evil military" that's inevitable to come from some idiot here. You've been warned.
 
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: Armitage
I'm beginning to think we should just build the levees higher, put barbed wire & guards around it, and abandon New Orleans in place. There's nothing left there worth saving :| I know thjat's overly cynical - I'm sure there are alot of good people simply trapped in a bad situation, and we just hear about the worst of it. But the worst is pretty bad.

It makes you realize how close to anarchy we really are though. Despite all our pretenses, humans are not inherently civilized. We are externally civilized by the institutions we've built up for that purpose, but strip those away and we're right back down there with the animals in less then 3 days.

Speak for yourself. I might go "find" some food and water, but I certainly wouldn't be stealing TVs, turning over ambulances, shooting at the National Guard, or killing my sister for a bag of ice. If I shot at anybody, it'd be self-defense against a Rodney King-style hate mob, so they wouldn't steal my sneakers or bash my brains in to get back at "society".

Shrug - I'm not trying to speak for any individuals, certainly not myself. But for society/mankind in general. This is a major american city, just like any other american city. Take away the power & comminications for a few days, limit the mobility & effectiveness of the police for a few days, and we're no better then Somalia.

We like to think we're better then that when we see crap like this happening in other countries. That we're somehow different. Seems like we aren't as different as we'd like to believe. Even on ATOT, this bastion of civilization :roll:, we have people admitting that they'd be out there looting with the rest of them if they had the opportunity.
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Fights and fires broke out, corpses lay out in the open, and rescue helicopters and law enforcement officers were shot at as flood-stricken New Orleans slipped toward anarchy Thursday.
Sounds like the American people are failing the government.
Thats not what the officials in Louisiana are saying. Sorry but the truth is against you. No one has seen a single FEMA official on the ground.

Bolded for idiots:
An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered with a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

?I don?t treat my dog like that,? Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. ?I buried my dog.?

?You can do everything for other countries but you can?t do nothing for your own people," he said. "You can go overseas with the military but you can?t get them down here.?

The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.

?We are out here like pure animals. We don?t have help,? said the Rev. Isaac Clark, 68.

People there, some holding crying babies or elderly barely able to stand up, shouted for help as TV news crews passed by.

So what are they doing to help themselves?? There's no reason that somebody can't take charge and set up an improvised mortuary. Designate an area as a latrine so that the whole area isn't one vast toilet. These are things that you don't need FEMA to do for you. Somebody needs to step up to the plate.

 
Originally posted by: KDOG
When the power went out in NYC people didn't behave like this....
Thats because it wasn't flooded, there weren't dead bodies floating in 10 foot water and there weren't people dying everywhere.
 
Originally posted by: KDOG
When the power went out in NYC people didn't behave like this....

Louisiana is an extremely backwards state. We're talking about a state that still operates under Napoleonic Code rather than English common law.

To put it plainly, people from Louisiana, generally speaking, "just ain't right."
 
Originally posted by: KDOG
When the power went out in NYC people didn't behave like this....

The police could still get around and communicate. The blackout only lasted about 30 hours, and peoples homes were still intact and habitable so they weren't out wandering the streets. Maybe I need to add that last condition to my comment above.
 
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