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I did a build for a kid that is HUGE into Fortnite, but wanted me to build him a computer "cheap" so he can have the high frames needed, we searched and got him a 240hz monitor, my X570 board, my 3200mhx 32gb ram, my 1st 6700 I had after I sold my 5700xt and after doing the boy a solid, meaning I sold him everything in my case at no profit, just so he did not have to wait for all the parts to come in, for he was heading to a tournament and needed right away, so I sold for what I could find then and wait for to replace pretty much with the same stuff I sold him because I loved what I had and did things pretty well, and at 1080P with the game as low as it could go (its how he liked to play for he wanted the frames).
Well he contacted me and told me he was selling his "system" parts to a family member, and wanted advice as to what cpu he should get on the "cheap" that would be better and I told him the 5600X, for I been watching video after video of that chip and the 6700xt and how a beast of a system it would be if he did, and anything after the 5600x would be more towards the editing side of things, but he did not listen and showed up yesterday for us to build it together and brought a 5900x :O
This was fine, so we slapped it into his new 400 buck mobo he sourced for 250, fired it up, and nothing. DUH, asked about this new mobo, he got it cheap off a dude, that bough 2 in 2019, and it has sat. So we put back in his, my, old 3600x and was able to go into bios and find out that crap was old, so installed new bios. BUT before doing that we had the perfect time to do a REAL side by side between my now "new" system running pretty much the same hardware but mine is the 3900X, and his is the 3600x, so we fired up Valley (just to try) and see if we get close. And we was nut on the same running a 4K with all the rest untouched, I got a avg of 96 fps, his was 97fps.
We then installed his 5900x to see then whats what, AND DAMN!!!!!! Just putting in that chip, nothing else changed, with bios at default settings, 199 avg FPS!!!! For a $500 upgrade, got 100 more frames, you could not do that if you went from the 6700xt to a 3090, and YES if he had this chip and a 6800, 6900 this would be even faster, but what I am saying is for only $500, and changing a cpu, I have NEVER seen changing a cpu out get that many fps jump between a single generation.
So we fired up his fortnite, ready to go holy poo man look at them fps's! and max was a lousy 150 if lucky, and this is at 1080P as low as it can run at. And then it hit me, DUH, Ryzen master and chipset drivers, and the newest video drivers (beta). Spent another half hour with that, fired back up Fortnite, and he told me he was getting around 200-300fps on the old system, running in these settings, and there was times, this time, fps was hitting 1100fps! And it really never dipped under 600, so why in the world would one need to overclock anymore, if you happen to own a 6700xt or 6XXXxT anything, and drop in a 5xxx series cpu with it, and see the massive amounts of FPS gains you would get on the cough cough cheap, vs buying a hella expensive video card but say keeping ur 3600(X), I really do not think we would of seen 100+ fps diff if he went from say the 6700XT to a 6900XT, and if he did, it would of cold well over the $500 he spent on the 3900X CPU gaining then just as much if he just upgraded his GPU to anything else. If I could ever sell my 3900X off and get what I been wanting for a while now which is the 5600X, I can report back then what gaming gains you may get going from a 5600X to a 5900X, and see how much of a FPS gain you would get then, for between my old 3600x vs my now 3900X, there was ZERO diff in "gaming/Valley" between the two.
I ended up with that 3900x, though wanted a 5600X myself, and man I need to sell my 3900X on the cheap so I can upgrade for I still am going WOW, for even in the 4k valley to be at 199fps, from 97 fps, just changing out the cpu, just WOW, and yes I did the tests on both 3 times and to a avg of the 3 tests to come out with that FPS avg for both systems, so apples to apples at first, runnit at the same time, hitting the F9 key at the same tome so I could see then, almost exact while running what each is hitting at till it was over. So no gaming better going past a 3600X to a 3900X, but I would be able to edit, and compress stuff super faster then that 3600X, but for the gaming side of things, 100+ fps, going from a 3600X to a 5900X, :O :O :O :O :O
Well he contacted me and told me he was selling his "system" parts to a family member, and wanted advice as to what cpu he should get on the "cheap" that would be better and I told him the 5600X, for I been watching video after video of that chip and the 6700xt and how a beast of a system it would be if he did, and anything after the 5600x would be more towards the editing side of things, but he did not listen and showed up yesterday for us to build it together and brought a 5900x :O
This was fine, so we slapped it into his new 400 buck mobo he sourced for 250, fired it up, and nothing. DUH, asked about this new mobo, he got it cheap off a dude, that bough 2 in 2019, and it has sat. So we put back in his, my, old 3600x and was able to go into bios and find out that crap was old, so installed new bios. BUT before doing that we had the perfect time to do a REAL side by side between my now "new" system running pretty much the same hardware but mine is the 3900X, and his is the 3600x, so we fired up Valley (just to try) and see if we get close. And we was nut on the same running a 4K with all the rest untouched, I got a avg of 96 fps, his was 97fps.
We then installed his 5900x to see then whats what, AND DAMN!!!!!! Just putting in that chip, nothing else changed, with bios at default settings, 199 avg FPS!!!! For a $500 upgrade, got 100 more frames, you could not do that if you went from the 6700xt to a 3090, and YES if he had this chip and a 6800, 6900 this would be even faster, but what I am saying is for only $500, and changing a cpu, I have NEVER seen changing a cpu out get that many fps jump between a single generation.
So we fired up his fortnite, ready to go holy poo man look at them fps's! and max was a lousy 150 if lucky, and this is at 1080P as low as it can run at. And then it hit me, DUH, Ryzen master and chipset drivers, and the newest video drivers (beta). Spent another half hour with that, fired back up Fortnite, and he told me he was getting around 200-300fps on the old system, running in these settings, and there was times, this time, fps was hitting 1100fps! And it really never dipped under 600, so why in the world would one need to overclock anymore, if you happen to own a 6700xt or 6XXXxT anything, and drop in a 5xxx series cpu with it, and see the massive amounts of FPS gains you would get on the cough cough cheap, vs buying a hella expensive video card but say keeping ur 3600(X), I really do not think we would of seen 100+ fps diff if he went from say the 6700XT to a 6900XT, and if he did, it would of cold well over the $500 he spent on the 3900X CPU gaining then just as much if he just upgraded his GPU to anything else. If I could ever sell my 3900X off and get what I been wanting for a while now which is the 5600X, I can report back then what gaming gains you may get going from a 5600X to a 5900X, and see how much of a FPS gain you would get then, for between my old 3600x vs my now 3900X, there was ZERO diff in "gaming/Valley" between the two.
I ended up with that 3900x, though wanted a 5600X myself, and man I need to sell my 3900X on the cheap so I can upgrade for I still am going WOW, for even in the 4k valley to be at 199fps, from 97 fps, just changing out the cpu, just WOW, and yes I did the tests on both 3 times and to a avg of the 3 tests to come out with that FPS avg for both systems, so apples to apples at first, runnit at the same time, hitting the F9 key at the same tome so I could see then, almost exact while running what each is hitting at till it was over. So no gaming better going past a 3600X to a 3900X, but I would be able to edit, and compress stuff super faster then that 3600X, but for the gaming side of things, 100+ fps, going from a 3600X to a 5900X, :O :O :O :O :O
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