OMG! Hillary pulls way out in front in the Super Tuesday polls!!

[techs]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Techs, are you willfully blind? Obama has a much better chance of winning vs. a Republican candidate, because

(A)- He doesn't put off the fence-voters (those who might usually vote Republican, but who have an open enough mind not to automatically pull the [R] trigger every time)

(B)- He doesn't have a bunch of hysterical partisanship in his past.

Have you read the polls? Hilary does much better than Obama.
Have you read about the Bradley effect?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilder_effect

 

[Starbuck1975]

Have you read about the Bradley effect?

It apparently didn't take hold in Iowa...quite a few white voters, frustrated with business as usual Washington politics and Hillary, came out to support Obama.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah conservative support for Obama! That's the funniest thing I ever heard. WTF? Why would anyone support someone with the views furthest from their own?
Oh, thats right, to support the candidate with the least chance of beating your candidate.

I think the Republicans are beyond desperate. Their party should be put on a suicide watch!

The only one with no hope of winning this fall is Clinton. In case you haven't been following along, she is extremely polarizing and very unpopular with anyone who isn't a diehard Democrat. She has virtually zero appeal with the independents and the swing voters.
And, more importantly, this country needs change. So far, for the past 20 years, it's been Bush, Clinton, Bush... Clinton? That alone is a kiss-of-death for Hillary.

In the meantime, the conservatives have been thoroughly betrayed by their own party and are looking for a home. And hacks like you are slamming the door in their faces.
But you're right in one respect. They have views. And you don't. You have a party that tells you what your views are supposed to be. So while you're concerned about party, they're concerned about gaining the power and influence in order to make their views into reality.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

Have you read about the Bradley effect?

It apparently didn't take hold in Iowa.

You mean a caucus state?

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah conservative support for Obama! That's the funniest thing I ever heard. WTF? Why would anyone support someone with the views furthest from their own?
Oh, thats right, to support the candidate with the least chance of beating your candidate.

I think the Republicans are beyond desperate. Their party should be put on a suicide watch!

The only one with no hope of winning this fall is Clinton. In case you haven't been following along, she is extremely polarizing and very unpopular with anyone who isn't a diehard Democrat. She has virtually zero appeal with the independents and the swing voters.
And, more importantly, this country needs change. So far, for the past 20 years, it's been Bush, Clinton, Bush... Clinton? That alone is a kiss-of-death for Hillary.

In the meantime, the conservatives have been thoroughly betrayed by their own party and are looking for a home. And hacks like you are slamming the door in their faces.
But you're right in one respect. They have views. And you don't. You have a party that tells you what your views are supposed to be. So while you're concerned about party, they're concerned about gaining the power and influence in order to make their views into reality.

QFT. Diehard Democrats need to learn from their 2004 mistake. Wise up before it is too late.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: techs
http://www.usaelectionpolls.co...per-tuesday-polls.html

Has anyone seen the Super Tuesday polls?

Clinton is leading in:

New Jersey
New York
California
Arizona
Alabama
Connecticut
Oklahoma
Colorado
Utah
Missouri
New Mexico
Arkansas
Delaware
Minnesota.

Obama is only leading in his home state of Illinois and Georgia and Idaho.


Its time to start thinking about the General Election.
Obama should concede very soon if he wants to have any future in the Democratic Party.

Yes, because clearly what the people want is only one candidate in the primaries. :roll:

 

[theeedude]

Hillary is inevitable. Learn it, Love it!.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Hillary is inevitable. Learn it, Love it!.

Then say hello to four more years of a Republican White House.

PS. Isn't that what they said about President Kerry?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: senseamp
Hillary is inevitable. Learn it, Love it!.

Then say hello to four more years of a Republican White House.

PS. Isn't that what they said about President Kerry?

Good luck with that.
You'll get 4 more years of Republican White House like you got 2 more years of Republican Congress in 2006
With economy heading where it's heading, people will want some Clinton TLC

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

With all due respect to the OP, this is stupid trolling. Even assuming the polls were current and accurate (which is obviously not the case), why would Obama be required to withdraw from the race now "if he wants to have any future in the Democratic Party"?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
With all due respect to the OP, this is stupid trolling. Even assuming the polls were current and accurate (which is obviously not the case), why would Obama be required to withdraw from the race now "if he wants to have any future in the Democratic Party"?

Because his annoying pestering of Hillary is not helping her in the general election, which won't help him with Democrats later.
Next election he'll be like John Edwards, a played out populist.

 

[Arkaign]

Annoying pestering of Hillary? Rofl It's good to have a good contest for the primary, really brings out the best (and worst) of the candidates for all to see, on both sides of the aisle.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Annoying pestering of Hillary? Rofl It's good to have a good contest for the primary, really brings out the best (and worst) of the candidates for all to see, on both sides of the aisle.

Yes, as long as you have a reasonable shot at winning. I don't think Obama does anymore.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Yes, as long as you have a reasonable shot at winning. I don't think Obama does anymore.

Totally disagree. He will likely win in SC, and we'll see where that puts him for Florida and Super Tuesday. This is far from over.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
With all due respect to the OP, this is stupid trolling. Even assuming the polls were current and accurate (which is obviously not the case), why would Obama be required to withdraw from the race now "if he wants to have any future in the Democratic Party"?

Because his annoying pestering of Hillary is not helping her in the general election, which won't help him with Democrats later.
Next election he'll be like John Edwards, a played out populist.

Doesn't that "boy" know his place? :roll:

That you, senseamp, are pretty much representative of Hillary's supporters is why I feel confident that she will lose. And when the majority of America votes against you, trust me that it is personal. Your holier-than-thou sh!t combined with the ugliest of ignorance is just disgusting.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: senseamp

Yes, as long as you have a reasonable shot at winning. I don't think Obama does anymore.

Totally disagree. He will likely win in SC, and we'll see where that puts him for Florida and Super Tuesday. This is far from over.

SC is throwaway state, it never votes Democrat anyways. Honestly noone cares about it except the media.

 

[Starbuck1975]

SC is throwaway state, it never votes Democrat anyways. Honestly noone cares about it except the media.

What South Carolina represents is a growing movement of political engagement by the African American community...in past years, candidates like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not viable because they did not attract white voters, and black voters were not as engaged in the nomination process.

Obama is the first viable African American Presidential candidate, and black voters are starting to take notice.

An overwhelming victory in S.C. could change the polling and support base for Obama going into Super Tuesday...especially in the South, and yes, even in NY.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Gawd help us all...

I am glad you are happy with the left-over crap.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

SC is throwaway state, it never votes Democrat anyways. Honestly noone cares about it except the media.

What South Carolina represents is a growing movement of political engagement by the African American community...in past years, candidates like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not viable because they did not attract white voters, and black voters were not as engaged in the nomination process.

Obama is the first viable African American Presidential candidate, and black voters are starting to take notice.

An overwhelming victory in S.C. could change the polling and support base for Obama going into Super Tuesday...especially in the South, and yes, even in NY.

Sounds pretty desperate if he's tying his fortunes to the black vote in South Carolina.
He has to be careful of not becoming the African-American candidate like Jesse Jackson and alienating whites and Hispanics.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

SC is throwaway state, it never votes Democrat anyways. Honestly noone cares about it except the media.

What South Carolina represents is a growing movement of political engagement by the African American community...in past years, candidates like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not viable because they did not attract white voters, and black voters were not as engaged in the nomination process.

Obama is the first viable African American Presidential candidate, and black voters are starting to take notice.

An overwhelming victory in S.C. could change the polling and support base for Obama going into Super Tuesday...especially in the South, and yes, even in NY.

Sounds pretty desperate if he's tying his fortunes to the black vote in South Carolina.
He has to be careful of not becoming the African-American candidate like Jesse Jackson and alienating whites and Hispanics.

There's like no low too low for you to sink to, is there?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Sounds pretty desperate if he's tying his fortunes to the black vote in South Carolina.
He has to be careful of not becoming the African-American candidate like Jesse Jackson and alienating whites and Hispanics.

The Kool-Aide is strong with this one.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

SC is throwaway state, it never votes Democrat anyways. Honestly noone cares about it except the media.

What South Carolina represents is a growing movement of political engagement by the African American community...in past years, candidates like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not viable because they did not attract white voters, and black voters were not as engaged in the nomination process.

Obama is the first viable African American Presidential candidate, and black voters are starting to take notice.

An overwhelming victory in S.C. could change the polling and support base for Obama going into Super Tuesday...especially in the South, and yes, even in NY.

Sounds pretty desperate if he's tying his fortunes to the black vote in South Carolina.
He has to be careful of not becoming the African-American candidate like Jesse Jackson and alienating whites and Hispanics.

There's like no low too low for you to sink to, is there?

I am just telling it like it is. If Obama wants to be the candidate for African Americans, he may alienate other ethnic groups. I think we saw that in play in Nevada where he lost the Hispanic vote big time.

 

[BoberFett]

Hillary would be the best gift the Republicans could hope for come November. Want to get every churchgoer in the US to vote? Tell them another Clinton is running for president, they'll vote for the Republican even if it was Satan himself.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

SC is throwaway state, it never votes Democrat anyways. Honestly noone cares about it except the media.

What South Carolina represents is a growing movement of political engagement by the African American community...in past years, candidates like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not viable because they did not attract white voters, and black voters were not as engaged in the nomination process.

Obama is the first viable African American Presidential candidate, and black voters are starting to take notice.

An overwhelming victory in S.C. could change the polling and support base for Obama going into Super Tuesday...especially in the South, and yes, even in NY.

Sounds pretty desperate if he's tying his fortunes to the black vote in South Carolina.
He has to be careful of not becoming the African-American candidate like Jesse Jackson and alienating whites and Hispanics.

There's like no low too low for you to sink to, is there?

I am just telling it like it is. If Obama wants to be the candidate for African Americans, he may alienate other ethnic groups. I think we saw that in play in Nevada where he lost the Hispanic vote big time.

How about I play one of your usual ugly bigot cards and ask what makes you believe that hispanics will actually vote for a woman? :roll:

 

[BoberFett]

Hey senseamp, when's the next Klan meeting?