Ahhh grasshopper , but will you have enough money to outlast the possibility of boredom?
The trick is to find meaning in what you do, for every task has value, else we would not do it.
Raising a family may not be much "fun", if fun is defined by college age frivolity, but that has far longer lasting implications to society than some party.
A man without a plan is like a ship without a course.
Once I begin my benevolant dictatorship I will impose the following:
1) 3 years mandatory military service at 18 (post high school graduation or not)
2) 2 years mandatory menial labor (landscaping, fast food, office cleaners, etc.)
This would resolve the military problem, and the labor problem as well as produce a citizenry prepared to defend the country and not be a bunch of self-absorbed whiners.
This is prep school for solidifying a psyche. Pushing a person through summer/fall harvest is the most efficacious method of transforming a civilian life.
Rogo
The media, teachers, even family members tout college as some failsafe way to a comfortable, happy life. And when you finally get that degree, it's anything but.
ultimatebob
Lifer
- Jul 1, 2001
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Uh...I'm 17 and I don't know how to:
-Manage a bank account (although, I did have a job before and deposited money).
-Cook/do laundary/etc.
-File taxes
-maintain a healthy balance. If life is anything like now, I know I can afford wasting time on forums. But I will, even if.
I'm not as exposed to the daily life of an adult as I think I should be.
I hope I'm not screwed after college in the same way you are (I'm going for engin. as well).
F---.
-Manage a bank account (although, I did have a job before and deposited money).
-Cook/do laundary/etc.
-File taxes
-maintain a healthy balance. If life is anything like now, I know I can afford wasting time on forums. But I will, even if.
I'm not as exposed to the daily life of an adult as I think I should be.
I hope I'm not screwed after college in the same way you are (I'm going for engin. as well).
F---.
Saint Nick
Lifer
- Jan 21, 2005
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My plan is to get my degree, work for some company for a while, save up about $30,000, then quit.
I'm going to pull a puffff and travel the world. I've been set on it ever since he started his venture years ago.
Plus, once I get back from that trip, I'm going to focus on opening my record label, and hopefully get a couple of bands going and go that route. Screw working.
I'm going to pull a puffff and travel the world. I've been set on it ever since he started his venture years ago.
Plus, once I get back from that trip, I'm going to focus on opening my record label, and hopefully get a couple of bands going and go that route. Screw working.
It's far easier to rectify that situation, simply LEARN what you do not know.
I know how to work on cars because my old man wouldn't let me own one if I didn't do the repairs.
I am not a mechanic, but the knowledge has served me well. Gotten me laid and fed.
Taxes? get a copy of Turbo tax , done.
Manage a bank account? Quicken is your friend.
You guys have it sooooooo easy now-a-days.
<old man rant> When I was your age , we had to read the tax code and figure it out.... and we liked it..... wait... no f'n way! I'll ake TurboTax anyday!!! </old man rant>
Maintain a healthy balance? Well, we'll just see how good a job your village has done, won't we?
Life is what happens while you're making plans.
ranmaniac
Golden Member
- May 14, 2001
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Become a part-time stuntman.
Here's a stunt that you can try, guaranteed to make you appreciate your job more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYzsskE5ObA
That's the most obtuse rant I've yet read! I like it.
The old men in my family know more about 'living' that 3 generations of modern day marines. They're pissant-and the general population is even more shallow.
Rogo
You know what, I just started working full time, like a real job, and as much as I want to put it down, cause its boring at the moment(I am an intern that is going to be hired, so right now not much for me to do), I don't think its THAT bad. Yeah in college you can roll out of bed at like 10 in the morning, go to a few classes that don't really matter, and then hang out the rest of the day and do what you want. But is that really satisfying? Yeah maybe I am the kind of person that will never be happy, but after the few two years of college I was really feeling that it was getting old. Writing papers that no one gives a shit about, for no reason, learning stuff I could easily learn from a book, while paying money for it, just seems lame. The only reason that college was entertaining was because of the schedule, and the people, thats it. Now I have extra money, and yeah I can't stay out till 4 in the morning every night, but on the weekends I can do whatever I want. When I get home, I can do whatever I want. Just because you work, it doesn't mean that once you get home you have to watch tv, microwave a dinner, and cry about your life. I am a very cynical person by nature, but damn, go outside, go work out, go join a club, MOVE somewhere you want to move.
College is fun, but you can get a lot more satisfaction from working. Yeah I don't love my job, its going to be my first job. Will I stay with it the rest of my life? Probably not. Is it important? Yes, Getting the first job is hard.?
College is fun, but you can get a lot more satisfaction from working. Yeah I don't love my job, its going to be my first job. Will I stay with it the rest of my life? Probably not. Is it important? Yes, Getting the first job is hard.?
Let me express my views in an easy-to-understand graph
http://individual.utoronto.ca/marty/worklife.jpg
For the vast majority (90-95% or something like that in areas 1, 2 and 3) a job is just a chore they have to do to earn a living and generally something that gets in the way of their life - hobbies, SOs, family, friends etc. Amongst this majority, you have people (section 1) that hate their jobs, people that are mostly indifferent (2) and people that kinda like their jobs and find them somewhat interesting and fulfilling (3). At the same time, you have the small minority in (4) who are not like everyone else - their work is their life and they would do their work even if they did not get paid for it. The people in (4) are somewhat apart from everyone else, since I personally know quite a few people that hold the attitude "life is what happens 5-9" and don't really believe work can be anything other than a chore.
Unless you're a highly successful business owner or trader or something, you'll have to spend your adult life working, so you need to try to move as far right as possible. Getting into (4) can't be very easy and probably takes a long time of trial and error, but you should still aim for it.
I recently quit my job, which put me somewhere in the upper (2) and started one 3 days ago that I'm hoping will take me into (3) territory, but at the same time, I'm still wondering how to get to (4). Currently, I think starting your own business doing what you enjoy AND being successful at it is the only way to get to (4).
http://individual.utoronto.ca/marty/worklife.jpg
For the vast majority (90-95% or something like that in areas 1, 2 and 3) a job is just a chore they have to do to earn a living and generally something that gets in the way of their life - hobbies, SOs, family, friends etc. Amongst this majority, you have people (section 1) that hate their jobs, people that are mostly indifferent (2) and people that kinda like their jobs and find them somewhat interesting and fulfilling (3). At the same time, you have the small minority in (4) who are not like everyone else - their work is their life and they would do their work even if they did not get paid for it. The people in (4) are somewhat apart from everyone else, since I personally know quite a few people that hold the attitude "life is what happens 5-9" and don't really believe work can be anything other than a chore.
Unless you're a highly successful business owner or trader or something, you'll have to spend your adult life working, so you need to try to move as far right as possible. Getting into (4) can't be very easy and probably takes a long time of trial and error, but you should still aim for it.
I recently quit my job, which put me somewhere in the upper (2) and started one 3 days ago that I'm hoping will take me into (3) territory, but at the same time, I'm still wondering how to get to (4). Currently, I think starting your own business doing what you enjoy AND being successful at it is the only way to get to (4).
Saint Nick
Lifer
- Jan 21, 2005
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Thats precisely how I think. A little opposite for me. I wasted my first two years of college by not socializing with anyone in our dorms and visiting my now ex-girlfriend every weekend. Needless to say, I wish I would have done more at that point, but now I have a lot of free time and I realize, like you, that the stuff I'm doing right now is so trivial and I just want to get it done. After I'm done... I'll make the best out of it that I can, because it can't be that bad, it really can't. Plus I have so much to look forward to...
Agreed. Add to that the decline in character and integrity.
I could give either of my grandfathers or uncles a thousand bucks and trust them to keep it safe for ever, if need be.
I wouldn't trust my brother (or anyone under 30) wih 5 bucks, that's for sure.
I didn' t meant that i was very out going. I wish I was in more activities when I was in college, but honestly, my social life is no worse then it was before, and at times possibly better. I like to drink and hang out with friends, but the frat party scene was never for me. Drunken idiots, and girls that are equally annoying, just was never what I liked....even though I tried to. If you don't like that lifestyle, then I think you can be quite happy after college.
Don't worry about any of these things - the threats you hear about "the real world" is mostly sour old people whining. When the time comes, you'll see that working, paying bills, managing finances and other "responsibilities" are all about as hard as figuring out how to assemble a computer - anybody with half a brain can figure it out in a day.
Life is pretty easy actually, that's why you see people complain mostly about boredom and directionlessness rather than making ends meet and crap like that.
College was NOT the best time of my life for me - maybe it's because I was there for something no one else was - an education.
That, and I worked full time to pay for college. Now the only thing that's changed is my job is cooler, I actually have money to spend and save, and NO HOMEWORK.
That, and I worked full time to pay for college. Now the only thing that's changed is my job is cooler, I actually have money to spend and save, and NO HOMEWORK.
Jeff7
Lifer
- Jan 4, 2001
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:laugh:
It's just amusing to see it written out like that.
Granted, I'm in college for what amounts to 4 years of job training, but getting educated is pretty well an integral part of that.
Partying....no, I didn't do that. It was just an annoying aspect of college life. I didn't care for fresh barf stains on the livingroom floor, back when I had roommates, or making sure that the passed-out person on the bed was still breathing. Now, living off campus, alone - best living experience I've had since I started college.
I am also really looking forward to an end of homework. I like to leave a job on the job site, I don't want it to follow me home.
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