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StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Skoorb
As I said Marxist = euphemism for commie. He wrote the communist manifesto, so...

http://voices.washingtonpost.c..._rush_limbaugh_in.html
And today Rush Limbo claimed Obama was trained by Marxists.
. Really, one could go on all night finding these silly statements by the right.

And I already told you why they refer to him as a Marxist and not a "commie". I have never ONCE heard mainstream talk radio call Obama a commie.
Marx wrote the communist manifesto, how can a person be a marxist--in appreciation of his views--and yet in conflict with his damn book? I don't get that. They call him that because they know that communist is the equivalent to Godwin's law and makes them sound like an ass.
Still doesnt call Obama a "terrorist"
Very thin hair you're splitting:)

 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Marx wrote the communist manifesto, how can a person be a marxist--in appreciation of his views--and yet in conflict with his damn book? I don't get that. They call him that because they know that communist is the equivalent to Godwin's law and makes them sound like an ass.

No, they call him a Marxist for the very reason I posted. Obama believes in "spreading the wealth" A key value of "Marxism"

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Very thin hair you're splitting:)

Not at all. The claim here was that talk radio calls Obama a "terrorist". It ha snot been proven yet.
 

StageLeft

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No, they call him a Marxist for the very reason I posted. Obama believes in "spreading the wealth" A key value of "Marxism"
OK, please expound on one of the key differences between Marxism and Communism.

Now that we've gotten that over with, they are the same. So, if anybody has any clue what they're actually talking about, to call somebody a Marxist is to call them a Communist.

Save you the effort
Marxism is basically a system of analysis, and a way to view the world. Communism, on the other hand, is basically a political movement, a form of government, a condition of society.
Again, more hair splitting. I think we both know why people call him a Marxist.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
No, they call him a Marxist for the very reason I posted. Obama believes in "spreading the wealth" A key value of "Marxism"
OK, please expound on one of the key differences between Marxism and Communism.

Now that we've gotten that over with, they are the same. So, if anybody has any clue what they're actually talking about, to call somebody a Marxist is to call them a Communist.

The point is, nobody called him a communist. They called him a Marxist because of Karl Marx's famous quote of spreading the wealth. Give whatever reason you want for them using Marxist instead of commie, but the point is, Vic is wrong when he says talk radio calls him a commie.
 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: Corbett
No, they call him a Marxist for the very reason I posted. Obama believes in "spreading the wealth" A key value of "Marxism"
Does Capitalism therefore require the concentration of wealth?

What ever happened to "A rising tide lifts all boats"? It appears that the 21st century "rising tide" lifts only yachts, and sinks the boats.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: Corbett
No, they call him a Marxist for the very reason I posted. Obama believes in "spreading the wealth" A key value of "Marxism"
Does Capitalism therefore require the concentration of wealth?

What ever happened to "A rising tide lifts all boats"? It appears that the 21st century "rising tide" lifts only yachts, and sinks the boats.

Start a new thread for that. Its not the issue here.
 

JD50

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I'm sorry but why does it matter what talk radio says about Obama? I thought the left was against guilt by association?
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Corbett
No distraction here. No hair-splitting either. You claim talk radio says these things, now prove it.

In the same list where I mentioned other media sources, moron.

I see, so you are admitting you have no proof then? Again, I will dumb it down for you.

Please post links to talk radio saying Obama is a terrorist, he's a Muslim, he's a commie.
From lieberman. More blah here, marxist being the euphemism of course for red-adorned commie. Not the radio, but lieberman is pretty big.

This is leading, like saying "Well, I think it may be worth asking if that man is a pedophile. I personally cannot say with certainty that he is not."

The media is less committed than leading, and this is why so many in the country do still think he's a muslim (I got an email forward just days ago from somebody who apparently approved of it and it alluded to this) and a communist (including those on these forums) and we've already seen the rallies of people who say he's a terrorist.

We can all put this to bed on Nov 5 when mccain goes home, thank God.

Lieberman is not talk radio. And in any case, he never called him a commie, he called him a Marxist, which Lieberman gets from things Obama says and supports like when he says he wants to "Spread the wealth around" AKA - "To each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" - Karl Marx.

Again, I'll ask Vic to post links to support his claims about "talk radio". So far, he has not.

Can't help you there. how about a quote from Obamas book, stating how he sought out Marxist professors in college?

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."


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Vic

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Savage wondering what kind of Muslim Obama is http://mediamatters.org/items/200802220012

Savage. Damn it. I forgot about that loon. Of well, I'd be delighted to see someone post this form the ones they commonly refer to as "talk radio" aka - Rush, Sean, Beck, Ingraham, Levin.

It's just amazing how dishonest you are. Oh shit, you were wrong, but no... you're not going to accept that source, it has to be one they "commonly" refer to as talk radio.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Skoorb
No, they call him a Marxist for the very reason I posted. Obama believes in "spreading the wealth" A key value of "Marxism"
OK, please expound on one of the key differences between Marxism and Communism.

Now that we've gotten that over with, they are the same. So, if anybody has any clue what they're actually talking about, to call somebody a Marxist is to call them a Communist.

The point is, nobody called him a communist. They called him a Marxist because of Karl Marx's famous quote of spreading the wealth. Give whatever reason you want for them using Marxist instead of commie, but the point is, Vic is wrong when he says talk radio calls him a commie.

I said talk radio claims he'd abort a baby after its due date. A claim you not only didn't deny but even approved of.

BTW, it's amazing how every time I google your words, several dozen wingnut blogs pop right up.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Can't help you there. how about a quote from Obamas book, stating how he sought out Marxist professors in college?

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."


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Can we expect that you guys will be bringing back McCarthyism should McCain get elected?
 

JEDIYoda

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JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
So how do you guys feel about Bill Ayers?

Your a nutcase......thats already been explained!
As usual you Republicans are desperate!!
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: daniel49
Can't help you there. how about a quote from Obamas book, stating how he sought out Marxist professors in college?

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."


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Can we expect that you guys will be bringing back McCarthyism should McCain get elected?


naw, just expect me to go to work, pay my bills, raise my family, pay my taxes and die.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Savage wondering what kind of Muslim Obama is http://mediamatters.org/items/200802220012

Savage. Damn it. I forgot about that loon. Of well, I'd be delighted to see someone post this form the ones they commonly refer to as "talk radio" aka - Rush, Sean, Beck, Ingraham, Levin.

It's just amazing how dishonest you are. Oh shit, you were wrong, but no... you're not going to accept that source, it has to be one they "commonly" refer to as talk radio.

No, I was wrong. I forgot about Savage. However, hes hardly considered when referring to "talk radio" and you know it. In any case, if you suggest "talk radio" promotes sayings like Obama is a terrorist, he's a Muslim, he's a commie, you would need to be able to prove that with facts. Instead, YOU have cherry picked one quote from one of the most insane talk radio hosts to prove your point. Congrats.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Skoorb
No, they call him a Marxist for the very reason I posted. Obama believes in "spreading the wealth" A key value of "Marxism"
OK, please expound on one of the key differences between Marxism and Communism.

Now that we've gotten that over with, they are the same. So, if anybody has any clue what they're actually talking about, to call somebody a Marxist is to call them a Communist.

The point is, nobody called him a communist. They called him a Marxist because of Karl Marx's famous quote of spreading the wealth. Give whatever reason you want for them using Marxist instead of commie, but the point is, Vic is wrong when he says talk radio calls him a commie.

I said talk radio claims he'd abort a baby after its due date. A claim you not only didn't deny but even approved of.

BTW, it's amazing how every time I google your words, several dozen wingnut blogs pop right up.

You keep going back this while ignoring your line about "Obama is a terrorist, he's a Muslim, he's a commie" being supported by talk radio.

But to get to your actual point about Rush, you DO realize it is as the article suggests? A MAKE-BELIEVE RIFT!!!

Keep digging, if this is so RAMPANT among talk radio, I'm sure you can find enough evidence to actually make a valid point.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: Corbett
Great to see Olbermann's panties all in a bunch over something that never happened.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2238468&enterthread=y

You have ears....go listen to the recording yourself. I heard it clear as day.

he does have ears...but they will not hear what everybody else hears because he is convinced it never happenned!

I'm not convinced of anything, but only a leftie loon would be able to decipher that audio into clearly saying "Kill Him". Congrats.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: Corbett
Great to see Olbermann's panties all in a bunch over something that never happened.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2238468&enterthread=y

You have ears....go listen to the recording yourself. I heard it clear as day.

he does have ears...but they will not hear what everybody else hears because he is convinced it never happenned!

I'm not convinced of anything, but only a leftie loon would be able to decipher that audio into clearly saying "Kill Him". Congrats.
Man arrested by Secret Service who said he wanted to kill Obama.

6 people in 2 videos from Ohio and PA say Obama is a terrorist.

One calls democrats "commie faggots". (2nd Video from PA)
Another tells democrats to DIE. When asked if he was serious, he replied "Everyone dies, don't they?" (2nd video)