OK, Who Stole Canada's Balls? Give Them Back, It's Not Funny Anymore!

[Jimbo]

Sorry Jimbo, must have been my inferior Canadian upbringing

I'm sorry too. With all that Leftist and Socialist indoctrination you received, they had to leave out something like spelling and grammar.
If you think for a second that this is just a U.S. problem, then you are the one that needs education.

 

[Iron Woode]

Scouzer:

Well if PM Deiffenbaker(sp?) hadn't killed the Arrow (at the US's insistance) we would've had a real air force.

 

[308nato]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
Well considering the total defence budget has been 'upped' to a whooping $7.2 billion CDN (~4.5 billion USD), I'm surprised we're anywhere! The entire army has 2-3 prepared regiments, everything else is reserve units which has equipment from the early 50's, and no newer than the early 70's. Especially for the artillery. No kidding. Our armada of tanks is 120 Leopard C1E's, which are 1960's German crap. They were an experiment of a lightly armored, agile tank. Not the right way to go. Our Air Force is a decrepped set of some 120 CF18 Hornets, of which no more than 50 are working at a time. The only thing in our entire military that is acceptable is our navy. They have very advanced frigates that are actually capable of doing something, unfortunately, navy frigates are not really needed for any recent or foreseeable wars.

The army is a decreped excuse for a rag tag band of revolutionary equipped soldiers. Its pathetic.

does your Air Force still have the Snowbird's? I have seen them at many airsho's. Great bunch. Don't tell me they have been scrapped.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Scouzer:

Well if PM Deiffenbaker(sp?) hadn't killed the Arrow (at the US's insistance) we would've had a real air force.

We would of made 5, then the Quebecers would complain there wasn't enough French Scientists developing it, and it'd be canned. Welcome to Canada, eh?


As far as I know, Snowbirds are just show off toys.

 

[Jimbo]

Well considering the total defence budget has been 'upped' to a whooping $7.2 billion CDN (~4.5 billion USD), I'm surprised we're anywhere!

Do you have a link for that?
4.5 Billion???? Are you sure?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: DaZ
This is truely pathetic. Now I truely wonder why we are even bother DONATING our services to you ungrateful jackasses. Remember, we arent the ones being targeted by terroists. We havent even had any reports of attempts or plans to attack us. Were simply helping, and this is what we get? Assholes.

Thats correct. The terrorists dont not threaten Canada because they are to busy exploiting it's immigration policies to try to hit the US.
Link

 

[Iron Woode]

<<does your Air Force still have the Snowbird's? I have seen them at many airsho's. Great bunch. Don't tell me they have been scrapped.>>

They are still here. Just the Airshows have been scrapped due to high insurance costs. I was looking forward to going to our local airshow, the London International Airshow. We can't even have a Balloon Fest and our North American wide Rib Fest is threatened too.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: Jimbo

Well considering the total defence budget has been 'upped' to a whooping $7.2 billion CDN (~4.5 billion USD), I'm surprised we're anywhere!

Do you have a link for that?
4.5 Billion???? Are you sure?

I don't have a link handy, but I am nearly positive.

 

[yllus]

With the Canadian-American relationship as it is, one could argue we don't really need an armed force for very much anyway. I'm not saying that I agree with that position (quite the contrary actually), but that is the way successive federal governments in this country have seen it. With no real threats on the horizon there's no impetus for change either.

I'm not even sure if we have an air base on the west coast for our F/A-18 Hornets to take off and land at. It's kind of baffling that our entire air force is ~100 fighters strong, and here we are, 2nd largest country by land mass in the world...I'd actually consider the air force as a career option if I hadn't been so overwhelmingly told not to come within miles of an uniform in this country. Our submarine vessels made the news a few weeks ago for their shoddy condition, too.

I'm sorry too. With all that Leftist and Socialist indoctrination you received, they had to leave out something like spelling and grammar.

I realize you probably meant to insult just this one poster, but the Canadian public school system is nothing to laugh at. 🙂 I'd put money on it being in the top 3 of the world.

 

[SidewaysN2second]

And lets not forget that they took their flight training in florida, Right?

Guess thats Canada's fault too...

There just isint any winning on here with you guys, it seems like at least once a week there has to be some kind of Canada bashing goin on....

why?

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: yllus

I'm not even sure if we have an air base on the west coast for our F/A-18 Hornets to take off and land at.

I believe Cold Lake, Alberta is the furthest west major AFB.

 

[308nato]

Originally posted by: SidewaysN2second
And lets not forget that they took their flight training in florida, Right?

Guess thats Canada's fault too...

There just isint any winning on here with you guys, it seems like at least once a week there has to be some kind of Canada bashing goin on....

why?

They keep locking the French threads would be my best guess.

😛

 

[Jimbo]

I realize you probably meant to insult just this one poster, but the Canadian public school system is nothing to laugh at.

OK, you got me. 😉

I dug this up on the web for some military spending numbers. I say we impliment our world enslevement program NOW! Bwhahahah.
$ 379 billion (2003) - United States
$48 billion - increase from Fiscal 2002 to 2003

$ 34.8 billion ( 2001 ) - United Kingdom
$ 29 billion ( 2000 ) - Russia
$ 27 billion ( 2000 ) - France
$ 23.1 billion ( 2001 ) - Germany
$ 18.7 billion ( 2000 ) - Saudi Arabia
$ 15.9 billion ( 2000 ) - India
$ 14.5 billion ( 2000 ) - China
$ 12.8 billion ( 2000 ) - South Korea
$ 12.8 billion ( 2000 ) - Taiwan
$ 7.5 billion ( 2000 ) - Iran
$ 3.3 billion ( 2000 ) - Pakistan
$ 1.8 billion ( 2000 ) - Syria
$ 1.4 billion ( 1999 ) - Iraq
$ 1.3 billion ( 2000 ) - North Korea
$ 1.3 billion ( 2000 ) - Yugoslavia
$ 1.2 billion ( 2000 ) - Libya
$ 425 million ( 2000) - Sudan
$ 31 million ( 2000 ) - Cuba

 

[exp]

There just isint any winning on here with you guys, it seems like at least once a week there has to be some kind of Canada bashing goin on.

Don't take it seriously. 🙂 Americans are among the most stereotyped/ridiculed groups around, but you don't hear us bitching about it.

 

[Scouzer]

This is the closest I could find for a link for the defence budget. It shows the miniscule amount of money being 'added' to the Defence Budget.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Scouzer:

Well if PM Diefenbaker hadn't killed the Arrow (at the US's insistance) we would've had a real air force.

OH GOD. That is the one statement I am truly taking issue with in this thread.

Please read up on the Avro Arrow before making comments ANYTHING like that again. The Arrow was created for a role that was obsolete by the time the prototype made its maiden voyage. All weather interceptor? We were already in the age of ICBMs! What the hell did anyone need bomber interceptors for?

I'd love to hear how building the Arrow would have made Canada some kind of real power. The Americans did us a favour back then by nixing the project. It was money badly spent.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Scouzer:

Well if PM Diefenbaker hadn't killed the Arrow (at the US's insistance) we would've had a real air force.

OH GOD. That is the one statement I am truly taking issue with in this thread.

Please read up on the Avro Arrow before making comments ANYTHING like that again. The Arrow was created for a role that was obsolete by the time the prototype made its maiden voyage. All weather interceptor? We were already in the age of ICBMs! What the hell did anyone need bomber interceptors for?

I'd love to hear how building the Arrow would have made Canada some kind of real power. The Americans did us a favour back then by nixing the project. It was money badly spent.

Nope, though you are correct in the original intent of the Arrow(it being an interceptor of long range bombers) it was capable of other duties such as Fighter, Strike Bomber, etc. It wouldn't have made Canada a Super Power, but it would have been more usefull then the junky SAM's purchased in their place.

 

[Nemesis77]

I find it surprising that Canada can't cope with the number of troops overseas (according to that article, 1700 in Bosnia, "several hundred elsewhere"). I mean, for comparison, Finland has about 1300 peace-keepers around the world, not including the 820 soldiers in Kosovo. And Canada is considerably bigger than Finland is.

EDIT: In case you are interested, Finlands defence-budget is about 1.6 billion US dollars

 

[Spagina]

Originally posted by: exp

There just isint any winning on here with you guys, it seems like at least once a week there has to be some kind of Canada bashing goin on.

Don't take it seriously. 🙂 Americans are among the most stereotyped/ridiculed groups around, but you don't hear us bitching about it.

lol, true, true. I can't remember how many times I've heard people describe Americans as fat, stupid, sister banging hicks that live in trailer parks. I find it kinda funny though that this is their entire view as Americans.

 

[Bluga]

The photo of the day was more interesting 😉

 

[Bluga]

Top 15 Countries with Highest Military Expenditures

Rank County Millions of Dollars
1. United States 277,800
2. Russia 76,000
3. China¡VMainland 63,510
4. Japan 50,240
5. France 47,770
6. Germany 41,160
7. United Kingdom 33,400
8. Italy 19,380
9. Saudi Arabia 17,210
10. Korea, South 14,410
11. China¡VTaiwan 13,140
12 Brazil 10,900
13 Canada 9,077
14 Israel 8,734
15 Spain 8,652

 

[Hammer]

Canada should have cut the number of troops in Bosnia instead. At least they left their SF.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: Bluga
Top 15 Countries with Highest Military Expenditures

Rank County Millions of Dollars
1. United States 277,800
2. Russia 76,000
3. China¡VMainland 63,510
4. Japan 50,240
5. France 47,770
6. Germany 41,160
7. United Kingdom 33,400
8. Italy 19,380
9. Saudi Arabia 17,210
10. Korea, South 14,410
11. China¡VTaiwan 13,140
12 Brazil 10,900
13 Canada 9,077
14 Israel 8,734
15 Spain 8,652

I think thats a little dated. Nonetheless, the Canadian defence budget has been dropping a billion every 1 or 2 years lately, so those figures are equally wrong.

We have 1,985 in Afganistan, 1699 in Bosnia, and 262 men in other small places. There is our entire capable army, with our best equipment. Our regular troops primary anti tank weapon is still the Carl Gustav. 1970's big bulky AT weapon that wouldn't do much to stop a modern tank. It could stop a T-55 or T-62 and other junky stuff the terrorists might have. The damn scopes of the Carl Gustavs had radiation on them that was dangerous to the operaters until someone noticed it after 5 years....typical Canadian goodness.

 

[GSOYF]

<<3rd Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry>>

Never have a heard of an army devision that just sounds like a bunch of sissy girls.....that's until now. This name sounds like they are a bunch of fairies...

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: GSOYF
<<3rd Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry>>

Never have a heard of an army devision that just sounds like a bunch of sissy girls.....that's until now. This name sounds like they are a bunch of fairies...

Its not a division, and I'm sorry you have a problem that we keep our royal names and connection to Britain.