OK this teachers union has finally even gotten to me

[Carmen813]

If it's mandated that mental health treatment and associated drugs must be covered then viagra needs to be covered as well.

What exactly is your point, because it sounds a lot like you are dismissing mental illness.

 

[CallMeJoe]

What exactly is your point, because it sounds a lot like you are dismissing mental illness.

Is spidey dismissing mental illness or embracing it?

 

[hal2kilo]

How fortunate for you that your scintillating personality will ensure someone throttles you long before you ever get old.

Thanks for beating me to it. He must not have any relationship with his grandparents or they died before he got to be around them.

 

[ShawnD1]

Is spidey dismissing mental illness or embracing it?

I think spiderman is saying that limp dick is a mental illness and therefore it should be covered.

I agree with him. Try going 1 week with no jerking off and no sex. You'll be spazzing on everyone all the time. It definitely is a mental illness.

 

[Hacp]

I think spiderman is saying that limp dick is a mental illness and therefore it should be covered.

I agree with him. Try going 1 week with no jerking off and no sex. You'll be spazzing on everyone all the time. It definitely is a mental illness.

This is what's wrong with medicine. Psychologists and psychiatrists have taken over. They're diagnosing everyone that comes into the office with mild autism or other stupid diseases that shouldn't even exist.

 

[hal2kilo]

This is what's wrong with medicine. Psychologists and psychiatrists have taken over. They're diagnosing everyone that comes into the office with mild autism or other stupid diseases that shouldn't even exist.

Just saw a hearing on Autism on CSPAN. Only 30% of the increase in reported cases can be attributted to new methods (know as differential diagnosis) of detected Autistic Spectrum Disorders (ASD).

There are 80,000 anthropogenic chemicals in currently in the environment now. Do you realize that chemical companies get around reporting any possible effects of new chemicals as additives by purposely not testing them for problems. Otherwise they would have to report them by law.

Comforting isn't it.

Thalides in plastics among other chemicals are starting to look like suspects.

 

[spidey07]

What exactly is your point, because it sounds a lot like you are dismissing mental illness.

My point is if you're going to mandate mental illness then this should be covered as well, they are both outside the scope of health insurance. I'm not dismissing mental illness coverage but I think it should be an OPTION if you choose to have it, NOT mandatory.

Mandatory mental illness and substance abuse coverage is a pretty new thing relatively speaking. Hence, why insurance costs have gone up.

The reason I tied ED and mental health is I view them as the same. ED could cause mental health problems and if you're gonna cover mental health, you need to cover ED as well.

 

[ShawnD1]

This is what's wrong with medicine. Psychologists and psychiatrists have taken over. They're diagnosing everyone that comes into the office with mild autism or other stupid diseases that shouldn't even exist.

Have you thought maybe people really are that fucking crazy and need medication?

Autism is a bad example because I don't really know any way to fix that. A better example would be people who eat too much. Eating too much is an evolutionary advantage and it's good that humans naturally have this, but some people go way too far. A normal human who eats too much food might be something like 200 pounds (at average height). A guy whose brain is completely fucked might be 400 pounds and has trouble walking because of it. Is that a mental illness? I would say yes it is since it's such a wild deviation from average. In our great country of seemingly infinite food, most fat people hit a limit somewhere and have some love handles. If there's nothing in your brain telling you to stop eating and you keep getting bigger and bigger to the point where you can't even walk properly, then that's definitely some kind of illness. That doesn't randomly happen.


One thing I always thought would be interesting to diagnose as a mental illness is how some humans are incapable of learning how to play games. Healthy people can play Megaman 2, learn how the game works, then apply what they've learned to progress through the game. Some people do not have this ability. They will suck at the game no matter how many times they try, and it never seems to improve. Is that a mental illness? Maybe it is. Even a monkey is capable of learning games like checkers. Why can't a fully grown human play a video game designed for 10 year olds? Obviously their brain is fucked.


It makes logical sense that most people would have some kind of mental illness. To say otherwise would imply that there are lots of perfect humans walking around. As someone who talks to humans on a daily basis, I can confidently say that this notion couldn't be more wrong. Being crazy as fuck is the standard, but only a trained professional can tell you how you deviate from the average.

 

[Hacp]

Autism is a bad example because I don't really know any way to fix that. A better example would be people who eat too much. Eating too much is an evolutionary advantage and it's good that humans naturally have this, but some people go way too far. A normal human who eats too much food might be something like 200 pounds (at average height). A guy whose brain is completely fucked might be 400 pounds and has trouble walking because of it. Is that a mental illness? I would say yes it is since it's such a wild deviation from average. In our great country of seemingly infinite food, most fat people hit a limit somewhere and have some love handles. If there's nothing in your brain telling you to stop eating and you keep getting bigger and bigger to the point where you can't even walk properly, then that's definitely some kind of illness. That doesn't randomly happen.

If his metabolism is fucked up, he can have medicine. If it isn't, he needs to practice some self control. We shouldn't reward people who have no self control with a free stomach staple.

 

[Carmen813]

My point is if you're going to mandate mental illness then this should be covered as well, they are both outside the scope of health insurance. I'm not dismissing mental illness coverage but I think it should be an OPTION if you choose to have it, NOT mandatory.

Mandatory mental illness and substance abuse coverage is a pretty new thing relatively speaking. Hence, why insurance costs have gone up.

The reason I tied ED and mental health is I view them as the same. ED could cause mental health problems and if you're gonna cover mental health, you need to cover ED as well.

Thank you for clarifying. Personally, I'm mostly happy that mental illness is being covered by standard plans in increasing numbers and will continue to be. I'm a bit biased being a mental health counseling student, but I think there is sufficient scientific evidence to show that the link between physical and mental health is strong. Treating mental illnesses early and well would likely prevent a great deal of physical illnesses later in life, especially stress related ones.

Mind you, having insurance involved with mental health at an increasing rate is not always a good thing. While it theoretically allows me to treat more people, it also means that HMOs have much more (in my opinion, too much) power over treatment. Until the health care reform law passed mental illness did not share parity with physical illness, so I'm glad that's been rectified.

 

[Orignal Earl]

This is what's wrong with medicine. Psychologists and psychiatrists have taken over. They're diagnosing everyone that comes into the office with mild autism or other stupid diseases that shouldn't even exist.

No matter what you think about your doctor, please remember to always finish your prescription

 

[hal2kilo]

No matter what you think about your doctor, please remember to always finish your prescription

He's got one of the "stupid" diseases.

 

[spidey07]

My mom was a doctor. She and most all doctors agreed that HMO was a terribly bad idea. That would be the start of our "healthcare crisis". That was their opinion 20 years ago and it holds true today.

 

[ShawnD1]

If his metabolism is fucked up, he can have medicine. If it isn't, he needs to practice some self control. We shouldn't reward people who have no self control with a free stomach staple.

I don't think you understand. This has nothing to do with self control. Most people will feel physical pain when they eat too much. Personally, I find that the taste of my food becomes worse and worse as I get more full. The first bite into a triple baconator might taste awesome because I'm so hungry, but the last bite tastes like I'm licking someone's ass. I only eat half of it, throw the rest out, and remember never to buy a triple baconator again because I can't eat that much.

I can understand counting calories to overcome a human's natural urge to be a bit fat, but one should never need to count calories just to prevent ballooning to 400 pounds. You should intuitively know when to stop eating. You should feel full and satisfied. People who don't get that feeling are broken and they need drugs. If I had my way, those drugs would be OTC and fat people could take as few or as many as they want.

This is what happens when your body is completely broken and does not tell you to stop eating:

 

[Hacp]

I don't think you understand. This has nothing to do with self control. Most people will feel physical pain when they eat too much. Personally, I find that the taste of my food becomes worse and worse as I get more full. The first bite into a triple baconator might taste awesome because I'm so hungry, but the last bite tastes like I'm licking someone's ass. I only eat half of it, throw the rest out, and remember never to buy a triple baconator again because I can't eat that much.

I can understand counting calories to overcome a human's natural urge to be a bit fat, but one should never need to count calories just to prevent ballooning to 400 pounds. You should intuitively know when to stop eating. You should feel full and satisfied. People who don't get that feeling are broken and they need drugs. If I had my way, those drugs would be OTC and fat people could take as few or as many as they want.

This is what happens when your body is completely broken and does not tell you to stop eating:

So you can't tell yourself to stop eating?

 

[tgferg67]

If sex is so important to men who want Viagra for their ED, why are 80% of men reported to have ED overweight or obese. 90% of erectile dysfunction is physical in origin, not psychological. Shouldn't a person have to be at their ideal weight before such a drug is prescribed? If sex is important, men will lose the weight first, if not sex is not important...

 

[MJinZ]

I don't think you understand. This has nothing to do with self control. Most people will feel physical pain when they eat too much. Personally, I find that the taste of my food becomes worse and worse as I get more full. The first bite into a triple baconator might taste awesome because I'm so hungry, but the last bite tastes like I'm licking someone's ass. I only eat half of it, throw the rest out, and remember never to buy a triple baconator again because I can't eat that much.

I can understand counting calories to overcome a human's natural urge to be a bit fat, but one should never need to count calories just to prevent ballooning to 400 pounds. You should intuitively know when to stop eating. You should feel full and satisfied. People who don't get that feeling are broken and they need drugs. If I had my way, those drugs would be OTC and fat people could take as few or as many as they want.

This is what happens when your body is completely broken and does not tell you to stop eating:

Humans have a little something called Frontal Lobes.

It also helps us not go around raping people when we are soooo horny and our body doesn't tell us to stop being horny.

 

[woolfe9999]

If sex is so important to men who want Viagra for their ED, why are 80% of men reported to have ED overweight or obese. 90% of erectile dysfunction is physical in origin, not psychological. Shouldn't a person have to be at their ideal weight before such a drug is prescribed? If sex is important, men will lose the weight first, if not sex is not important...

65% of all adults are overweight or obese versus 80% of people with ED. There's probably some kind of causal relationship in there, but it's not going to be that strong.

- wolf

 

[Homerboy]

Waukesha? Nothing wrong with Waukesha... except their social conservatism.

Wait Waukesha is OK but Milwaukee is not? Do you guys go out at all in these locations?

 

[Carmen813]

ED can be caused by any number of issues, psychological, physical, lifestyle...and most likely a combination.

Obesity is linked with an increased risk of just about everything, so I'm not really sure what point people are trying to make by bringing it up, other than the fact that obesity is a major problem that also needs to be addressed.

 

[ShawnD1]

Humans have a little something called Frontal Lobes.

It also helps us not go around raping people when we are soooo horny and our body doesn't tell us to stop being horny.

Wait a minute. Are you saying you naturally want to rape women and the only reason you don't is because you ignore your desire to rape people?

 

[dainthomas]

It would be great if people stopped quoting those pictures.