Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
I am certainly one of a very few who are saying anything other than that the ads suck and the site is going to die because of this one thing.
Of course, none of my points are ever refuted with anything other than "the ads suck".
The site certainly isnt about to die because of the present ad placement, I'd bet in two weeks time this will all be forgotten by the majority regardless of the outcome. I doubt many will leave because of it, at least no more then have left over past foibles.
I don't understand how I became a bad guy from all this. I didn't say be happy, I said you can't do anything about it right now, they're testing it, you've voiced your opinions, and it's stupid to threaten to leave or claim to be the only thing keeping the site from going under. Do you think they don't know that if they drive people away with annoying things it leaves them without any customers? Should I go count posts from other people stating what they think repeatedly? I think I'm pretty well set here, out of well over 300 posts I'm pretty much the only one bothering to consider that there's any side to this besides "AT sucks and wants to make us miserable".
The one with the unpopular opinion is commonly attacked, it's almost the way of the internet. Agree with the majority or become hounded for expression your opinion.
Personally I don't see anything wholly wrong with what you've sai in this thread.
I do disagree that it's useless to keep complaining or let AT know that you have the intention of leaving over it.
Nothing will change for the better if we do not firmly express our negative sentiments towards present ad placement.
To quietly accept matters and move on would be to accept the ad's, and promote the belief there is nothing wrong with the present placement.
Whether for or against the ad placement, further feedback only serves to broaden the base AT has from which to draw as to public sentiment.
I don't think AT "sucks and want to make us miserable".
I merely believe the view the ads as necessary to attain the cash flow the consider adequate. What that adequate cash flow is I havent the faintest idea, from what I've seen in the past I suspect it's enough to put AT into a reasonable profit for the Administration after staffing/upkeep/server costs.
Cash naturally is more important then public opinion, that's the way the world works and I don't expect AT to be any different from that.
I view AT as a business at this point in time, and I sincerely doubt the sole purpose of this site is to benefit it's readers any longer.
Public opinion is very important to them given the volatile nature of the IT Press... without a solid fan base corporate support would quickly disappear and without that any enthusiast site would be difficult to run.
They evidently believe a left ad placement is the best solution. Removing the ad's clearly is not an option. In my mind a placement at the top would be preferable, apparently AT disagrees with this and has settled upon a placement to the right.
Hopefully this will change with enough negative sentiment.
2. refresh the page as fast as you can. (trying to overload the server- if 1000 people do this same time)
Attacking the server hardly solves anything, it only serves to bring ill-will towards yourself and deprive others of the knowledge gained from the main site and advice shared on the forum.
I'd much prefer left ad placement on the forums over bringing down the server(s) intentionally so that no one can view anything at all.
A DOS attack or any dirivative thereof doesnt exactle create the impression of a well reasoned and thought out argument as to why a left ad placement does not benefit AT.