Oil created cheaply from almost any waste product!?!?!?!

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Kadarin

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Putting on my conspiracy theorist hat, I'd say that if this process is worthwhile and legit, it'll be shelved by current monied powers who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Putting on my conspiracy theorist hat, I'd say that if this process is worthwhile and legit, it'll be shelved by current monied powers who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
I sure hope not.

It's a whole new business opportunity, I don't see how they could put a stop to it, even if they wanted to. The applications are far more reaching than oil, apparently.

It very well could be the answer to our garbage problems.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Putting on my conspiracy theorist hat, I'd say that if this process is worthwhile and legit, it'll be shelved by current monied powers who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
I sure hope not.

It's a whole new business opportunity, I don't see how they could put a stop to it, even if they wanted to. The applications are far more reaching than oil, apparently.

It very well could be the answer to our garbage problems.

It could easily be stopped.. the patents could be bough out, or (bogus) legal pressure could be placed on the company developing this, which forces them to divert resources to legal defense and could cause the company to go out of business. Or any number of such tactics could be used against officers of the company.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Putting on my conspiracy theorist hat, I'd say that if this process is worthwhile and legit, it'll be shelved by current monied powers who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
Please read the whole article.
One might expect fossil-fuel companies to fight thermal depolymerization. If the process can make oil out of waste, why would anyone bother to get it out of the ground? But switching to an energy economy based entirely on reformed waste will be a long process, requiring the construction of thousands of thermal depolymerization plants. In the meantime, thermal depolymerization can make the petroleum industry itself cleaner and more profitable, says John Riordan, president and CEO of the Gas Technology Institute, an industry research organization. Experiments at the Philadelphia thermal depolymerization plant have converted heavy crude oil, shale, and tar sands into light oils, gases, and graphite-type carbon. "When you refine petroleum, you end up with a heavy solid-waste product that's a big problem," Riordan says. "This technology will convert these waste materials into natural gas, oil, and carbon. It will fit right into the existing infrastructure."
Appel says a modified version of thermal depolymerization could be used to inject steam into underground tar-sand deposits and then refine them into light oils at the surface, making this abundant, difficult-to-access resource far more available. But the coal industry may become thermal depolymerization's biggest fossil-fuel beneficiary. "We can clean up coal dramatically," says Appel. So far, experiments show the process can extract sulfur, mercury, naphtha, and olefins?all salable commodities?from coal, making it burn hotter and cleaner. Pretreating with thermal depolymerization also makes coal more friable, so less energy is needed to crush it before combustion in electricity-generating plants.
 

charrison

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Putting on my conspiracy theorist hat, I'd say that if this process is worthwhile and legit, it'll be shelved by current monied powers who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
I sure hope not.

It's a whole new business opportunity, I don't see how they could put a stop to it, even if they wanted to. The applications are far more reaching than oil, apparently.

It very well could be the answer to our garbage problems.

It could easily be stopped.. the patents could be bough out, or (bogus) legal pressure could be placed on the company developing this, which forces them to divert resources to legal defense and could cause the company to go out of business. Or any number of such tactics could be used against officers of the company.

patents expire.
 

huey1124

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U.S. government is backing the technology, and this isn't your ordinary carburetor technolgy that gets 200 mpg that was supposedly bought out by big oil companies. If anything, this will help the oil refineries and coal industries. I really hope that this will be pushed through.

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: huey1124
U.S. government is backing the technology, and this isn't your ordinary carburetor technolgy that gets 200 mpg that was supposedly bought out by big oil companies. If anything, this will help the oil refineries and coal industries. I really hope that this will be pushed through.
The 200MPG carburetor buyout thing is old urban legend. :p
 

huey1124

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: huey1124
U.S. government is backing the technology, and this isn't your ordinary carburetor technolgy that gets 200 mpg that was supposedly bought out by big oil companies. If anything, this will help the oil refineries and coal industries. I really hope that this will be pushed through.
The 200MPG carburetor buyout thing is old urban legend. :p

Right, that's why I said "supposedly".

 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: huey1124
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: huey1124
U.S. government is backing the technology, and this isn't your ordinary carburetor technolgy that gets 200 mpg that was supposedly bought out by big oil companies. If anything, this will help the oil refineries and coal industries. I really hope that this will be pushed through.
The 200MPG carburetor buyout thing is old urban legend. :p

Right, that's why I said "supposedly".

You said it was supposedly bought out, which would be incorrect, since a 200MPG carburetor has never existed. :p
 

bolomite

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If I fell into the machine, you would get almost exclusively oil, cuz I eat lotsa fried food :D
 

LordRaiden

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Repost. I posted this 3 weeks ago, but got shot down by the repost police even then. :D

But either way the article is very good and I think this would be a great use for refuse.
 

Where do I go to sign up? I've got ~$3200 sitting in the bank - an investment in this stuff could be the end of worrying about money!