Oil created cheaply from almost any waste product!?!?!?!

[charrison]

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Interesting read, however it seems to good to be true.

In an industrial park in Philadelphia sits a new machine that can change almost anything into oil.
Really.
"This is a solution to three of the biggest problems facing mankind," says Brian Appel, chairman and CEO of Changing World Technologies, the company that built this pilot plant and has just completed its first industrial-size installation in Missouri. "This process can deal with the world's waste. It can supplement our dwindling supplies of oil. And it can slow down global warming."

 

[Heisenberg]

Sure it can. And it was sitting right next to the perpetual motion machine when they found it.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Sure it can. And it was sitting right next to the perpetual motion machine when they found it.

Well, it sounds plausible.. at least moreso than a PPM.


EWww.. the pic of the turkey guts in the article is gross.

Mmm.. Hotdogs. :disgust:

 

[ChrisIsBored]

Hmmm... they claim $8-$10 per barrel. It'll be interesting to see where this goes...

 

[Eli]

We can only hope this is true.

 

[amnesiac]

hahaaa

If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water.

I can just imagine the music from the Rube Goldberg machine scenes in those old Tom and Jerry cartoons as this guy falls in an neatly bundled components come out the other end..

 

[Feldenak]

Interesting read.

 

[Eli]

After reading the article, it appears that it indeed is real...

Very, very cool...

 

[Zenmervolt]

Questions:

How much energy does it take for this process to make oil?
Is that $12/barrel price only workable because of the government subsidy?
How much would it cost per barrel without government subsidies?
How much energy will one gallon of this new oil contain?

ZV

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Questions:

How much energy does it take for this process to make oil?
Is that $12/barrel price only workable because of the government subsidy?
How much would it cost per barrel without government subsidies?
How much energy will one gallon of this new oil contain?

ZV

I was surfing their website, they are claiming >80% effeciency.

 

[Talon02]

Just like in Back to the Future, instead it's not Mr. Fusion, it's Mr. Oil.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Questions:

How much energy does it take for this process to make oil?
Is that $12/barrel price only workable because of the government subsidy?
How much would it cost per barrel without government subsidies?
How much energy will one gallon of this new oil contain?

ZV

1) Thermal depolymerization, Appel says, has proved to be 85 percent energy efficient for complex feedstocks, such as turkey offal: "That means for every 100 Btus in the feedstock, we use only 15 Btus to run the process." He contends the efficiency is even better for relatively dry raw materials, such as plastics.

2) I don't think so.. They say that they will produce oil at 15$/barrel in their first plant, and will be able to move down to 10$ and even lower from there.

3) ...

4) They say that the oil is chemically very similar to home heating oil #2... which contains approx. 138,000BTU/gallon.

 

[ATLien247]

Sounds like a worthwhile (albeit risky) investment to me. Too bad I don't have any money...

 

[Eli]

I think you should change your title to something a little more attention grabbing. This definately deserves more attention.

Edit: There we go.

 

[gotsmack]

I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon. We just took over Iraq. Gotta milk it until we break even before doing anything else.

 

[ggavinmoss]

I read this article a couple of weeks ago and found the results of a 175 lb man falling in very funny.

-geoff

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: gotsmack
I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon. We just took over Iraq. Gotta milk it until we break even before doing anything else.

I would disagree, if we can create cheap oil and solve landfill problems at the same time, the middle east rapidly becomes irrelivent

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Eli

1) Thermal depolymerization, Appel says, has proved to be 85 percent energy efficient for complex feedstocks, such as turkey offal: "That means for every 100 Btus in the feedstock, we use only 15 Btus to run the process." He contends the efficiency is even better for relatively dry raw materials, such as plastics.

2) I don't think so.. They say that they will produce oil at 15$/barrel in their first plant, and will be able to move down to 10$ and even lower from there.

3) ...

4) They say that the oil is chemically very similar to home heating oil #2... which contains approx. 138,000BTU/gallon.

Wow. This sounds too good to be true. If this really does pan out, good luck getting rid of the IC engine now.

ZV

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Sure it can. And it was sitting right next to the perpetual motion machine when they found it.

How do you think I constantly spin around with my thumb in my ass?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Eli

1) Thermal depolymerization, Appel says, has proved to be 85 percent energy efficient for complex feedstocks, such as turkey offal: "That means for every 100 Btus in the feedstock, we use only 15 Btus to run the process." He contends the efficiency is even better for relatively dry raw materials, such as plastics.

2) I don't think so.. They say that they will produce oil at 15$/barrel in their first plant, and will be able to move down to 10$ and even lower from there.

3) ...

4) They say that the oil is chemically very similar to home heating oil #2... which contains approx. 138,000BTU/gallon.

Wow. This sounds too good to be true. If this really does pan out, good luck getting rid of the IC engine now.

ZV

Yeah, no kidding.

With some extensive fuel tinkering, and probably some more emissions technology, I bet we could get damn near close to a vehicle that only emits carbon dioxide.. or other nontoxic substances.. when running properly, of course.

 

[Vic]

Wow... ConAgra and the Buffetts are solidly behind it... it must work. Where can I buy in? I hate to sound overly optimistic, but this could change the world.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Eli

1) Thermal depolymerization, Appel says, has proved to be 85 percent energy efficient for complex feedstocks, such as turkey offal: "That means for every 100 Btus in the feedstock, we use only 15 Btus to run the process." He contends the efficiency is even better for relatively dry raw materials, such as plastics.

2) I don't think so.. They say that they will produce oil at 15$/barrel in their first plant, and will be able to move down to 10$ and even lower from there.

3) ...

4) They say that the oil is chemically very similar to home heating oil #2... which contains approx. 138,000BTU/gallon.

Wow. This sounds too good to be true. If this really does pan out, good luck getting rid of the IC engine now.

ZV

Yeah, no kidding.

With some extensive fuel tinkering, and probably some more emissions technology, I bet we could get damn near close to a vehicle that only emits carbon dioxide.. or other nontoxic substances.. when running properly, of course.

Actually clean coal would be a far bigger win than a slightly cleaner gas engine.
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[her209]

What are the bi-products?

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: her209
What are the bi-products?

I'm guessing here, it's probably not oil.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: her209
What are the bi-products?

I'm guessing here, it's probably not oil.

LOL!

Read the article. The main byproducts depend on what you feed into it, but with turkey guts.. it's Gas, Oil, and Minerals.