Ohio Jesus statue struck by lightning, destroyed!!

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woolfe9999

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Statues like that don't just fall because they are struck with one bolt of lightning. It had to have been a controlled demolition.

- wolf
 

CycloWizard

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What real proof do you have that Jesus died on the cross. What real proof do you have he didn't have 12 sons what real proof do you have that They didn't become rulers of the nations and all the inbreeding is for that reason . What proof do you have that the story told in the
the semerian tablets isn't the truth . What proof do you have that the Book of Enoch isn't in fact the trueth . Why isn't money backed by Gold . Why does Gold pricies rise and fall . What proof do you have that the christ was not the son of ceasar and cleopatra.
Caesar never met Cleopatra. Even if he had knocked her up somehow, the timeline would be completely wrong as Caesar died 44 BC. Contemporary secular historians also discussed Christ's crucifixion. But all this only matters if you believe in objective truth. I'm not arguing that Christ was God here, but you can't simply ignore historical fact because it suits you.
 

Moonbeam

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Caesar never met Cleopatra. Even if he had knocked her up somehow, the timeline would be completely wrong as Caesar died 44 BC. Contemporary secular historians also discussed Christ's crucifixion. But all this only matters if you believe in objective truth. I'm not arguing that Christ was God here, but you can't simply ignore historical fact because it suits you.

Yup, I have to hand it to that Jesus guy. One day he woke up and decided to be God and with hard work, a college degree, and a positive attitude he turned his fate as a nobody union carpenter into a real I Am the Gate monopoly.
 

Fox5

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What real proof do you have that Jesus died on the cross. What real proof do you have he didn't have 12 sons what real proof do you have that They didn't become rulers of the nations and all the inbreeding is for that reason . What proof do you have that the story told in the
the semerian tablets isn't the truth . What proof do you have that the Book of Enoch isn't in fact the trueth . Why isn't money backed by Gold . Why does Gold pricies rise and fall . What proof do you have that the christ was not the son of ceasar and cleopatra.

Gold seems to be alot of what everthing revolves around why is that.

The story about Christ existed thousands of years befor Christ we know was born in many cultures . Why is this . Why is our world falling apart.

I thought you were a Christian, but it sounds like you're decrying Christ, so I guess that was wrong. Islamic? Jewish? Something else? I'm curious.
 

kalrith

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Looks to me as if God has a sense of humor.
God hurled a lightning bolt at the Jesus statue and decimated the statue!!
I can just hear God now -- ZAP!! Take that Jesus....
you need to look up the word decimated...

Decimate: "to cause great destruction or harm to" (Source). From the OP, "God hurled a lightning bolt at the Jesus statue and caused great destruction or harm to the statue."

Looks like you're the one who needs to look up the word decimated.
 

Joemonkey

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Decimate: "to cause great destruction or harm to" (Source). From the OP, "God hurled a lightning bolt at the Jesus statue and caused great destruction or harm to the statue."

Looks like you're the one who needs to look up the word decimated.

So you pick 3b instead of 1 huh?

Check out this source: http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+decimate&FORM=DTPDIA&qpvt=define+decimate

Word Usage
The popular meaning of decimate, "to destroy," now predominates because the need for a word meaning "to kill one person in ten" has greatly diminished. Even so, the popular meaning is not accepted by everyone, and it is often better to use annihilate, exterminate, destroy, or devastate.
 

kalrith

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So you pick 3b instead of 1 huh?

Check out this source: http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+decimate&FORM=DTPDIA&qpvt=define+decimate

Word Usage
The popular meaning of decimate, "to destroy," now predominates because the need for a word meaning "to kill one person in ten" has greatly diminished. Even so, the popular meaning is not accepted by everyone, and it is often better to use annihilate, exterminate, destroy, or devastate.

I picked 3b, because that's how it's used. I didn't know that we were only allowed to use definition #1. And in case you didn't know, languages are in a constant state of flux. If you don't believe me, then try reading the 1611 King James Version of the Bible. It's in English, but you won't be able to read it.

Also, I never learned the rule that said we can only use the first definition listed or the definition of the word from 50 years ago. Oh wait! That's because it's not a rule! We can use whatever the hell definition we want to use. If it's in Webster's dictionary, then it's good enough for me.

Nice try, though.
 

Joemonkey

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I picked 3b, because that's how it's used. I didn't know that we were only allowed to use definition #1. And in case you didn't know, languages are in a constant state of flux. If you don't believe me, then try reading the 1611 King James Version of the Bible. It's in English, but you won't be able to read it.

Also, I never learned the rule that said we can only use the first definition listed or the definition of the word from 50 years ago. Oh wait! That's because it's not a rule! We can use whatever the hell definition we want to use. If it's in Webster's dictionary, then it's good enough for me.

Nice try, though.

If I was using a word incorrectly I would like someone to point it out to me. Decimate is one of those words that meant something very interesting back when armies actually performed decimation. I have no idea who "decided" that a word that, by definition, meant "destroy 10%" now means to "completely destroy" but I'm sure it was out of ignorance. If language changes by ignorance there isn't much I can do about it other than point out the original meaning and etymology of it if I know it.

I'm sure one day a word like "theer" will exist to replace all three words "there, they're, and their" because people ignorant of their proper usage simply don't care.
 

kalrith

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If I was using a word incorrectly I would like someone to point it out to me. Decimate is one of those words that meant something very interesting back when armies actually performed decimation. I have no idea who "decided" that a word that, by definition, meant "destroy 10%" now means to "completely destroy" but I'm sure it was out of ignorance. If language changes by ignorance there isn't much I can do about it other than point out the original meaning and etymology of it if I know it.

You're not using the word incorrectly, but neither was JEDIYoda, and it seemed that you were directly challenging his usage of the word, which I saw as correct. It's because decimate has multiple meanings.

As far as how languages develop, it can be very frustrating. Often the "development" in language is because people misuse words or leave out punctuation. For example, when I was in elementary school, a series had to have a comma before the and (example: lions, tigers, and bears). So many people left that off, that they changed the rule, and now the comma is optional (example: lions, tigers and bears).

I see this as akin to increasing the speed limit to the speed that everyone actually goes rather than keeping the speed limit stagnant regardless of what people are actually doing. It's adapting to the culture. I wish it would adapt to the highly educated, but unfortunately it adapts to the majority.

While the cause of the development of grammar changes or word changes can be infuriating, it does not make someone incorrect to use them in their accepted ways today. In other words, I won't correct someone for not using a comma before and in a series, because it is "correct" today (even though I wish it weren't).

In the same way, you shouldn't correct someone for using decimate to mean "completely destroy," but that is a "correct" definition today (even though you wish it weren't). It doesn't matter if that definition came about from misuse or not, but languages develop based on usage not based on what was "right" 20, 50, 100, or 500 years ago.
 

Joemonkey

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Point taken, it just annoys me because the meaning of the word changed only because of widespread misuse. I never stated the OP was wrong, just suggested (albeit in an asshole-ish tone) that he look up the definition. I believe the word translates directly from Latin as "removal of a tenth" and since our language is Latin based it seems wrong to simply change the meaning such that if you try to use Latin to derive the meaning you will be technically correct yet somehow wrong
 

Lemon law

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Its bad enough dodging the spelling police on this forum, but now we have to dodge the word use police to. But thanks to the insights of posters like Moonbeam, I thinks its possible to resurrect and reconcile the ancient Roman word of decimate with the thread topic.

To start out, decimate is a punishment applied to an army the screwed up, and to make amends, every tenth man is removed, leaving ninety per cent of the former army in tact. But what we fail to assume is that this process can either be a one time thing, or it also can be an endless progress.

As in this lifeless rendition of Jesus got struck by lightning one time, thus waking up something within the Styrofoam and steel that said, I hate myself being mis used like this, so I shall decimate this abomination again and again and again.......................................

It only takes 10 tries to get down to 35% of its former self, 20 times to get to 12%, 30 times to get down to 4%, and therefore if we can only determine how much is left, we can figure out how many times the real Jesus decimated this graven image of false
idolatry.
 

Joemonkey

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Well that's easy then, let's assume the steel frame was 12% of the total structure and we know the lightning/fire decimated the statue 20 times!
 

Throckmorton

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Caesar never met Cleopatra. Even if he had knocked her up somehow, the timeline would be completely wrong as Caesar died 44 BC. Contemporary secular historians also discussed Christ's crucifixion. But all this only matters if you believe in objective truth. I'm not arguing that Christ was God here, but you can't simply ignore historical fact because it suits you.

There is NO historical record of Christ's crucifiction. Only later writings by some guy named Josephus that people like "Naked Archaeologist" have latched on to and the Christian writings that came even later.
 

Nemesis 1

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I thought you were a Christian, but it sounds like you're decrying Christ, so I guess that was wrong. Islamic? Jewish? Something else? I'm curious.


Never really said I was Christian . I believe in the living word . I believe that Word was Given . Who the Man God was doesn't mean anything to me . The Word is what was promised and that word was delivered . Moses was a prince of egypt proof he was a Jew. Why wasn't he allowed into the promised land. Even tho he may have been a jew buy blood he was an egyptian in his heart . You can believe the black book If you like but If Enoch and others are omitted than there is a trueth hidden and a lie has been substatuted.

The roman catholic church compiled the Bible a ceasar of rome Took oversight. If you believe Rome you believe a lie . The truth is there but not the whole trueth and lies are substituted in their place.
 

UberNeuman

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Reminds me of the "ratfarts" scene from Caddyshack....

ratfarts.jpg
 

Nemesis 1

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There is NO historical record of Christ's crucifiction. Only later writings by some guy named Josephus that people like "Naked Archaeologist" have latched on to and the Christian writings that came even later.

Ya ceasar and cleo had a child his name was in video I said I don't care who he was . But son of ceasar changes the meaning of many things that actually make alot of sense.

I thought the living word made perfect sense in how he asked us to live. We failed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXBaLnkuakY
 

zinfamous

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Looks like Jesus just got a bit of tough love from his dad.

Btw who was the genious who thought it would be a good idea to build a giant statue of plastic foam over a steel frame ? That's a lightning rod coated in flammable material .....

it's Ohio....it's a giant Jesus statue that looks like shit...no genius implied. ;)