Oh SH|T!!!!! BUSTED BY Timewarner Cable!!!!

[bmacd]

Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts
You'd be surprised what can be done at your ISPs end. I work for a local one here in town (leased T1, colo, ISDN/dialup, and we resell ADSL/SDSL). I've had to call up a total of 2 users for sharing large movie files (copyrighted) via IRC, one of them was even selling them by advertising on a webpage and was 15 years old... Ironically though, I'm no angel when it comes to software

You're right...that is irony if i've ever seen it.

-=bmacd=-

 

[yakko]

I guess it pays to be a leech sometimes.

 

[Hanpan]

it's like speeding. most everyone speeds over the limit... at least once in their life time.

Speeding may not be lawful but I would not go so far as to say it's morally incorrect.

I personally think that stealing copyrighted information is wrong as well, however what does one do in places like tailand, where to the best of my knowledge there are no copyright laws. It is still wrong to copy software there?

Just a though.

 

[GT1999]

Originally posted by: bmacd

Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts
You'd be surprised what can be done at your ISPs end. I work for a local one here in town (leased T1, colo, ISDN/dialup, and we resell ADSL/SDSL). I've had to call up a total of 2 users for sharing large movie files (copyrighted) via IRC, one of them was even selling them by advertising on a webpage and was 15 years old... Ironically though, I'm no angel when it comes to software

You're right...that is irony if i've ever seen it.

-=bmacd=-

The whole story behind it: The manager from the DSL provider we use (for reselling DSL) basically called up my boss, the manager where I work; forwarded me the copy of an email that some government agency or something similar had sent them warning them about our customer who was sharing/selling this stuff. I was the guy who got to call the customer up. It was hard telling this kid (and asking for mommy) that what he was doing was wrong. He got a warning like you did.. thats what I was supposed to tell him, basically unshare all his stuff and it was illegal. If he does it again his service will be terminated, that's all that was mentioned to me.

Same thing for the second time except it wasn't a kid and he wasn't selling it.

Ah well, I still watch SVCDs at work all the time.

 

[Frosty3799]

RoadRunner must be cool about this stuff, and must stick with their customers, because i have a friend who got a similar call.

 

[arcain]

Originally posted by: dexvx
I think a more practical to piracy is not just checking Kazaa, but checking overall bandwidth consumption. You cannot stop people who pirate once in a while, but you can certainly crack down on the people who use their bandwidth to its max potential. It doesnt take a genius to realize and isolate someone that has been putting out GB's of transfers everyday. I mean, of all legality, wtf could you do that will result in GB's of transfers on a weekly basis legally? The only thing I can think of is file sharing (home made movies, some of your own ISOs).

I could be legally watching porn video streams all day.. err.. I mean.. People could be legally watching porn video streams all day..

 

[bmacd]

Originally posted by: arcain

Originally posted by: dexvx
I think a more practical to piracy is not just checking Kazaa, but checking overall bandwidth consumption. You cannot stop people who pirate once in a while, but you can certainly crack down on the people who use their bandwidth to its max potential. It doesnt take a genius to realize and isolate someone that has been putting out GB's of transfers everyday. I mean, of all legality, wtf could you do that will result in GB's of transfers on a weekly basis legally? The only thing I can think of is file sharing (home made movies, some of your own ISOs).

I could be legally watching porn video streams all day.. err.. I mean.. People could be legally watching porn video streams all day..

lmfao. I needed a good laugh d00d...thanks

-=bmacd=-

 

[freebee]

Luckily you were busted for programs. If time warner contacted your mom about the massive amounts of goat porn on your computer, imagine the embarrasment.

 

[bmacd]

Originally posted by: freebee
Luckily you were busted for programs. If time warner contacted your mom about the massive amounts of goat porn on your computer, imagine the embarrasment.

Oiiii *sigh*

-=bmacd=-

 

[MrCodeDude]

Ha ha! That's why I only share MP3's.
-- mrcodedude

 

[kami]

Wow...first time I've heard of this!

 

[austin316]

What if you run a firewall like zonealarm. Would a packet sniffer still work?

 

[Gujski]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Where did we get the absurd notion that we own anything. You don't own the air, the clouds, the stars. Once we owned the universe. Now everybody is a pauper.

Oh my beloved, wherever I look it appears to be thou!

True! at most you are renting it. Kind of like beer

 

[Hubris]

Originally posted by: edmicman

So it's okay to steal a car to learn stickshift so you could get a job requiring you to learn stick? Yeah....okay.

I'm not gonna pretend that ALL my software is legal, but jeez at least I don't try and make it sound like I'm the victim of the big, bad software business.

no. if i steal a car, a tv, whatever, i take the use of that item away from whomever i stole it from. if i copy software, an mp3, or anything digital, it is a copy. the original person can still use it, and so can i. whether its right or wrong or justified or whatever, copying is different than stealing

So if you steal a car but still let the original owner use it when he wants to, that's okay?

But you ARE stealing from the programmer, as the company doesn't receive royalties from their sale of their software, and next time raises come around, maybe someone who would have gotten one now won't. Extreme? Yeah, but also possible. Theft is theft is theft.

 

Well, consider yourself lucky it was a call from TW, not the FBI knocking on your door at 6:00AM with a warrant.

 

[TaylorD]

i am not condoning piracy, but for a broke college student... i dont really see the serious harm in getting a pirated copy of ms office or photoshop.

in this case, you are not stealing royalties from the programmer, because if it wasnt free (copied, stolen, whatever you want to say) you just wouldnt get it .... (a college student will use word if its on the computer, but it isnt likely for him to go out and spend a couple hundred bucks for a legit copy of office)

once you actually use a product like either of those for your own benefit (like in a business) you have to get licenses - or else the penalties become more severe. so the companies (adobe, ms) will always make money, just from licensing to schools, businesses and the like ...

in some ways, pirated copies of MS office may HELP MS ... if everyone has it, and uses it, it becomes the standard.

Anyway, just my two cents (Im a college student who legally owns over $1500 of MS/adobe software )



on a sidenote - can they tell what I have shared on my computer if I am behind a router? i have a ton of music, about 1/2 of which I legally own

also, does kazaa lite or zonealarm help in anyway in keeping the ISP from snooping my computer? way too 1984 for me

 

[Hooobi]

Well, the way I see it, if they can afford to practically give away tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of copies on college campuses, to developers, etc then maybe charging hundreds of dollars for the same software is a bit excessive.

Of course, I guess having a monopoly has an upside...

 

[Mrburns2007]

The phone call (and most of the time a letter) is called a takedown. There is a program there running which scans P2P networks looking for names of copyrighted apps and then gets the IP address of the person serving the apps up. It basically is to get you to take the apps down.

I think it's mostly a RIAA, MPAA thing but I bet Time Warner (they make films don't they) is involved with it.

The truth is the that software like Photoshop shouldn't cost $500 plus, ordinary people can't afford it. I don't why they don't have some kind of software club you could join to get software at cheaper prices for regular people.

PS: Dog waffle is pretty good freeware equal to photoshop.

 

[AaronP]

I would have told em to f off

 

[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
The phone call (and most of the time a letter) is called a takedown. There is a program there running which scans P2P networks looking for names of copyrighted apps and then gets the IP address of the person serving the apps up. It basically is to get you to take the apps down.

I think it's mostly a RIAA, MPAA thing but I bet Time Warner (they make films don't they) is involved with it.

Yep, Warner Bros. makes movies and music and who knows what else, and is a member of both the RIAA and MPAA. So in theory it wouldn't be that surprising if Time Warner cable gets more aggressive about copyright infringement across the board, especially Warner Bros. products.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: bmacd
When i AM online, if i see somebody leeching stuff from me that is NOT sharing files, i'll kick them off. I HATE people who don't share.

-=bmacd=-

Good deal. I boot leeches as well, because they slow down my transfer rates for everyone else. If you're not going to properly participate by sharing your files, I'm not going to let you waste the bandwidth that I'm paying for. Besides, Peer to Peer file SHARING only works if you SHARE your files! If everyone starts acting like a bunch of freeloaders, there won't be any good content left to share.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Usenet regulars batten down the hatches. We have another crop of newbies incoming.

Tell me about it. "how do I get all this gibberish into a file?"

 

[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Linflas
Usenet regulars batten down the hatches. We have another crop of newbies incoming.

Tell me about it. "how do I get all this gibberish into a file?"

I'd be more worried about the little sh!ts figuring out how to post binaries, then flooding gigs of britney & nsync and pushing good stuff off the servers.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Rallispec
eh.. i guess all these years of being a dork and not pirating software are finally paying off.

YEP

<- Will try to remain quiet because Amused is doing a pretty good job and I am tired.

 

[Peetoeng]

Originally posted by: austin316
What if you run a firewall like zonealarm. Would a packet sniffer still work?

Your ISP is very unlikely doing it. The reasons ISP calls you to take down copyrighted materials is because of the threat of lawsuit and that it only takes a simple phone call on their part. But for them to run sniffer on your line (a costly procedure for large ISP), they probably require the complainant to serve them a legal order of somekind.