oh noes! painted dogs eat kiddie

[destrekor]

lol, dogs weren't forcibly domesticated. They were domesticated over thousands of years by natural selection. The dogs that had genetic traits that favored friendliness towards people survived much better because they weren't afraid to approach the waste and garbage that humans were leaving out. Eventually they grew to depend on that as a food source and became more and more dependent on people

These "wild dogs" are nothing like domesticated dogs. They'll rip you to pieces in a heartbeat. They don't like playing fetch and getting belly rubs.

This.

The canine species that still exist in the wild (naturally) will not roll over for a human. Depending on specific species, it might ignore you, be wary around you, or simply attack just to prove a territorial point. If it's hungry, many of the species (except for the one or two insectivorous species) will jump straight to attack the human mode.
They don't care about humans, nor have any natural experience with them. Some local tribes/packs may have working experience with humans, but generally the natural reaction will be however they react to mammals just slightly larger than them (and a 2 year in old, in this case, is decidedly smaller than them - preferred prey).

And without any trepidation, their unchecked power will be brutally efficient against anything the likes of us. If we have weapons or are well mentally prepared with high agility and strength (to put up with one in a fight), you might have a chance against one, maybe two.

I can't see a human, with any relevant training/knowledge, surviving against a pack of wild dogs intent on maiming said human, unless packing some serious weaponry and are highly proficient with said weapons.

 

[clamum]

this virtual view makes me sad if it were my kid, i'd jump in without a 2nd thought.

has clamum posted anything useful yet?

If it were my kid, yeah I guess I probably would've. I'm not a parent but even though I'd probably die myself, my instinct and emotions at the time would leave me to jump in as well, I'm guessing.

Speaking of useful posting... have you ever posted anything useful? You're a shitty fucking troll and aren't entertaining in the least. Look up "blackinches" old posts for inspiration if you wanna do it right. If you're actually somehow not a troll, you're a fucking idiot (aka kill yourself please). Well, the last point stands regardless.

 

[Vdubchaos]

This.

The canine species that still exist in the wild (naturally) will not roll over for a human. Depending on specific species, it might ignore you, be wary around you, or simply attack just to prove a territorial point. If it's hungry, many of the species (except for the one or two insectivorous species) will jump straight to attack the human mode.
They don't care about humans, nor have any natural experience with them. Some local tribes/packs may have working experience with humans, but generally the natural reaction will be however they react to mammals just slightly larger than them (and a 2 year in old, in this case, is decidedly smaller than them - preferred prey).

And without any trepidation, their unchecked power will be brutally efficient against anything the likes of us. If we have weapons or are well mentally prepared with high agility and strength (to put up with one in a fight), you might have a chance against one, maybe two.

I can't see a human, with any relevant training/knowledge, surviving against a pack of wild dogs intent on maiming said human, unless packing some serious weaponry and are highly proficient with said weapons.

I'm not exactly sure what kind of a person it would take NOT to jump in there and try to protect your child.

This is all basic instinct.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I'm not exactly sure what kind of a person it would take NOT to jump in there and try to protect your child.

This is all basic instinct.

Does the instinct to protect your young exist, yes.

However, there is also a strong self-preservation instinct.

11 foot jump into bloodlusted wild dogs is a pretty big check on the self-preservation instinct box.

 

[BladeVenom]

First of all, it wouldn't have happened. Aside from the fact it was a pit full of top predators, it was 11' down.

So if you hang off the ledge, it would only be about a 4 foot drop.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Does the instinct to protect your young exist, yes.

However, there is also a strong self-preservation instinct.

11 foot jump into bloodlusted wild dogs is a pretty big check on the self-preservation instinct box.

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Again, I would never EVER be able to watch wild animals eat my child.

That would take a fucked up person.

I would do anything within my power to hold off the attack even if it means death.

In the end, if my kid was eaten I would've never witnessed it/over my dead body.

 

[lxskllr]

I'm not exactly sure what kind of a person it would take NOT to jump in there and try to protect your child.

This is all basic instinct.

For anyone that isn't an automaton, it requires a chance to be useful. If your kid fell off a cliff, would you jump after him?

 

[Brigandier]

Very sad story, the only hope for the kid would have been if a dozen or so people jumped in and intimidated the pack with numbers.

 

[Vdubchaos]

For anyone that isn't an automaton, it requires a chance to be useful. If your kid fell off a cliff, would you jump after him?

No

But 11foot jump, no problem. Hanging off the rail would leave me with 5ft.....

Again, I would NOT want to live with myself and the images of animals eating my child alive.

I would rather be dead.

Very sad story, the only hope for the kid would have been if a dozen or so people jumped in and intimidated the pack with numbers.

Knowing myself, I would've probably jumped in if it wasn't my kid (call me stupid).

 

[lxskllr]

No

But 11foot jump, no problem. Hanging off the rail would leave me with 5ft.....

Again, I would NOT want to live with myself and the images of animals eating my child alive.

I would rather be dead.

The 11' jump isn't my concern. It's the predators below. I'm guessing they jumped on that kid like it was feeding time, and he was likely already dead before you'd even hit the ground. Did you watch the video of the impala getting eaten? An impala is much tougher than a squishy human, and they went through that like butter in a chipper.

 

[SheHateMe]

To further my point, if the requisite number of people who capture wild killer whales were on staff and prepared, the whale could have been stopped before it killed the trainer.

Stopped as in Killed.

How about we stop kidnapping animals from their homes and making them put on shows for us. Then, no one would have to go through that.

 

[SheHateMe]

I'm not exactly sure what kind of a person it would take NOT to jump in there and try to protect your child.

This is all basic instinct.

Right...you see how high up the barrier appears to be in both photos? Please, stop pretending like jumping in there would make an ounce of difference. The baby was probably dead or unconscious from the fall...you are acting like you would jump down there, land on your feet and pull of some amazing feat.

In a perfect world...sure, you'd have time to do what you said you would do...climb down the barrier and then jump to the ground and blah blah blah. Have you seen videos of how these animals eat? Basically, you'd be going down there for nothing. You'd rather die than have your child eaten...perhaps people should think about that before they let their kids do whatever.

How about parents stop being so damn careless. I worked at a Zoo when I was 15. I can't remember how many "PLEASE, DO NOT FEED THE ANIMALS" signs I walked past everyday while working...but I know I couldn't count on my damn hands and toes how many dumbass parents I saw giving their kids food, letting their kids walk up to the pins and reach over the barriers to feed the animals.

Then, there was that video from Russia (or somewhere in Europe) where the mother tells her teenage daughter to keep an eye on the brother while he played on the escalator. Before anyone could react, the boy was falling off the side of the escalator, his shirt was caught and it was pulling him down...the mother tried to grab him and pull him up but could not. The stupid child then comes falling from the top of the mall and slams into the ground in front of some poor woman on the ground floor. Luckily the child survived...unfortunately, he and his mother couldn't be awarded matching Darwin awards.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

You are right. This is a kodiak moment

NSFW!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpzxzDGxr0


Anyway, RIP to the child, it's awful that either a parent wasn't watching the child closely or the parent engaged in negligent behavior that would likely cause such a terrible result.

dang that bear is determined to get some butt cheek meat.

looks like there was another grizzlydude attack on a guy yestereday:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/bear-attack-montana_n_2074306.html

its hard to feel sorry for someone who is captively breeding animals that clearly arent supposed to be confined like that

 

[SheHateMe]

dang that bear is determined to get some butt cheek meat.

looks like there was another grizzlydude attack on a guy yestereday:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/bear-attack-montana_n_2074306.html

its hard to feel sorry for someone who is captively breeding animals that clearly arent supposed to be confined like that

Why did no one man up and jump down there to karate chop the bear!? D:

 

[destrekor]

I'm not exactly sure what kind of a person it would take NOT to jump in there and try to protect your child.

This is all basic instinct.

Basic instinct is actually self preservation.

In most cases where you throw your life away for your child, the parent is actually expecting a chance to survive as well. If it's hopeless for anyone to escape, why lose two lives when one was the original expected loss?


It's easy to say you would jump in after your child - if I had a kid, I expect I would see myself doing exactly that.
If you actually stood there facing that exact situation, that concept in your mind might falter. Jumping into an enclosure (where, it's easy to jump down - how about getting back up and out?) with a pack of dangerous, agile, and lethal creatures? Surviving shouldn't be expected.

Throwing your life away to save the life of a child? Yes, it's something a parent should reasonably consider - but instinct isn't something that happens without any due consideration of immediately available factors. Instinct and situational judgment/awareness go hand in hand. Sometimes instinct will say walk away, tail between legs, but alive... and remain capable of producing another child.
Is it a shitty way to look at it? Yes, but when looking at it in the natural/wild state of mind, like an animal, life is rarely all rainbows and roses. It's quite brutal and ugly.
And humans (among many other animals) have had to watch their offspring consumed before their very eyes. You may or may not fight to save the child - but animals typically don't engage in that behavior if by their snap judgment it appears absolutely hopeless the child will survive.

But we also live in a world where we even want the defective ones to survive, with uninterrupted support and a ridiculous amount of extra resources, from birth to an elderly death. "life is precious"

 

[moonbogg]

Very sad story, the only hope for the kid would have been if a dozen or so people jumped in and intimidated the pack with numbers.

I have a 2 year old son. When I was younger I never imagined myself with the mindset of a parent, but now stories like this really shake me up. My son would never get close to standing on a god damn railing with me around, but if it was my son who somehow fell in, then i'm afraid those dogs would've had a larger lunch than just a 2 year old that day.

EDIT: This "mother" needs to be arrested and locked up for years, because she is felony stupid.

 

[Quakester]

Adequate signage can be very important in cases like this. That's all i'm saying.

Ya, we probably need signage that says 'don't run across the freeways naked' too huh.

Just sayin

 

[herrjimbo]

n/a

 

[moonbogg]

But we also live in a world where we even want the defective ones to survive, with uninterrupted support and a ridiculous amount of extra resources, from birth to an elderly death. "life is precious"

You're damn right it is, especially when its your brother or child that is weak and disabled. Humans have the unique abilty to care for the less fortunate and we should do more of it. Its only an intermediate stage during which we need to do this anyway. Genetic engineering and other sciences will rid our species of naturally occuring defects. The sick process of natural selection is necessary in order for a species to come about that can override it, at least to a meaningful degree.

EDIT: This makes me so sick I had to edit and say it. Anyone who trolls this thread should be thrown in a lion exhibit.

 

[SandEagle]

[image of kid in link]

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012...ffer-new-details-after-childs-tragic-death-2/

Medical examiner's office says the fall did not kill him. RIP MADDOX DERKOSH.

 

[SaDiZTiKStyLeZ]

We should feed more humans to the animals. It's not like we're going to be anywhere near extinct or anything.

 

[HeXen]

11ft is not a difficult jump (unless you're a fattie). i'm pretty sure i could do it. why didnt people at least throw their shoes away from the kid? dogs like to fetch dont they? any distraction may have helped. this story has been bothering me for a few days.

I jumped from about 18 to 20ft before...on a roof getting attacked by a crap ton of wasps, darn straight I jumped. I just rolled when hit bottom, landed fine but I was like 19 years old too.

With that many of them, I kinda doubt you'd even be able to offer enough distraction from them attacking your kid too. likely both of you would get mauled. It's easy for everyone to say now, "what I would do" or "what they did or didn't do was stupid", but in a split second tragedy, adrenaline rushes, people panic, uncertainty, fear..etc. all within minutes when initial seconds matter...its impossible to second guess and judgment to others after the child fell isn't for us to judge. Beforehand sure...but freak accidents happen all the time, you can't safety the planet.

 

[Howard]

Maybe intentional. Either way, mom is responsible.

 

[tcsenter]

lol I did chuckle when I read that comment as well. If anyone should have been down there it should of been the mother. Lets face it, some random person jumps down to try and help, odds are we would be reading about 2 dead people or at best 1 severely injured one.

Not really. Painted dogs are really timid toward adult humans. If a grown man had jumped-in (possibly hurting himself or breaking an ankle on landing, that wouldn't be good), threw his hands in the air, whooped and hollered in a menacing voice, tried to puff himself up and look as menacing as possible, these dogs wouldn't have bothered him.

Spotted hyenas, on the other hand....

 

[BladeVenom]

Ya, we probably need signage that says 'don't run across the freeways naked' too huh.

We're not suppose to do that? Now you tell me.