Oh Boy, Jesus has his sights on you.....

[JEDIYoda]

must be a slow news day this is not even news worthy....
who the hell looks at serial ###.....rofl...sad and pitiful....

 

[Nemesis 1]

You'll win hearts and minds of all Muslims if you're running around with Jesus rifles...

Besides it likely being unconstitutional and against military code (no proselytizing), it's f'king pointless. If you have a gov't contract to make sights, leave your dogma at home.

Thats probably the Idea . Make hate grow . Make more war create more weapons need .Make more MONEY!

 

[nobodyknows]

must be a slow news day this is not even news worthy....
who the hell looks at serial ###.....rofl...sad and pitiful....

I find it to be a rather humorous. Kind of like the holy hand grenade.

 

[skyking]

I find it to be a rather humorous. Kind of like the holy hand grenade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk

 

[Moonbeam]

Link to proper story.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/19/AR2010011901812.html

And yeah I think it's horrible idea. Not because it "offends" muslims (what doesnt?) but because separation of Church and state. Soldiers have right to be free from religion and govt should not promote.

This makes no sense. What is the point of the separation of church and state if not to protect people from either the imposition of religion or the interference in it. The whole point is to protect against the government offending. That is what is implied in having soldiers free of it, free from some state religion offending them which is exactly what the Muslims deserve by extension.

 

[Moonbeam]

From now on require they not be inscribed like that. Have some grunts file it off on the in field weapons.

Well who will pay for the costs that accrue when some Muslim kid straps on a nuke and blows up New York City because some old fucker of an Alqaeda sheik convinces him that by those numbers that America is out to destroy Islam?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I think it would be great if we could put bible verses on every firearm and ordinance in the region, meaning those who we are fighting.

Maybe they'll surrender, unable to touch the "unclean" weapon

 

[kylebisme]

That is a rather absurd notion, considering the fact that Islam doesn't deem the Bible as unclean. Rather, according to Qur'an, the Gospels, along with the Torah and Psalms, are previous Divine revelations.

 

[Nemesis 1]

You do come up with some good ones. But in reality it serves no purpose but to expand a holy war . Since most here except 1 person believes any war is Holy.

 

[dammitgibs]

Do we send the message that we are fighting a war for Christianity, or for the people of Afghanistan?

What? Since when have we been in Afghanistan "for the people of Afghanistan" ?? We're there to kill and disrupt as many bad guys as possible.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Yeah, it's a big deal. Shit has no business on government equipment.

Can easily be seen as a direct provocation against non-Christians.

And sheesh!! It's not an X because a weapon is aimed in 2 planes, horizontal and vertical, therefor the + design.

 

[nobodyknows]

Yeah, it's a big deal. Shit has no business on government equipment.

Can easily be seen as a direct provocation against non-Christians.

And sheesh!! It's not an X because a weapon is aimed in 2 planes, horizontal and vertical, therefor the + design.

Rotate my good man, rotate!!

 

[Robor]

Not a big deal. Nobody really cares about it.

This was front page here

Nah, not important at all

 

[Nebor]

Well who will pay for the costs that accrue when some Muslim kid straps on a nuke and blows up New York City because some old fucker of an Alqaeda sheik convinces him that by those numbers that America is out to destroy Islam?

You can send the bill for that one to me.

 

[ericlp]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...sus-guns-inscribed-secret-Bible-messages.html

I better picture to see what they are talking about. Dunno what to think to be honest. But I feel its no worse then having a 'god we trust' printed on the money. It's just some sick joke.

Maybe the military should think twice about purchasing sights from this company in the future. If I were in the military I'd be kinda upset if I had to shoot someone with a sight that had a bunch of crap on it I didn't believe in.

 

[Craig234]

From now on require they not be inscribed like that. Have some grunts file it off on the in field weapons.

Wow, you just moved up a notch. Tell me you support that and it's not begrudging, and it's two notches.

 

[Red Dawn]

I have heard there weren't any atheists in fox holes.

And there are no real Christians in Government.

Kill a Muslim for Jesus, fuck yeah :thumbsup:

 

[gingermeggs]

Almost every scope reticle has a cross in it... Obviously NOT ROP.

and the best 2 are the german #1 and the circle dot

 

[Craig234]

There's a near universal attitude among those on the right side of these issues, who want to preserve their advantage and don't care about the equal rights or respect for others.

"Who cares?"

"Deal with it".

Those phrase make great sense to the people uttering them, and are salt on a wound to the people on the wring side.

That's really how these things work - the good principles like equality come up most when there's an empathetic situation, which happens most when there's some price for people to value it.

Our nation's great principles didn't come from an arrogent power - that was the English. THey cam from our people who had a fresh taste of being on the wrong side of power - and wrote for equality.

Those great sentiments stood the test of time well as mob after mob of Americans became the arrogant group who did what they like, and said to the left our minority 'who cares', and the courts intervened.

Even our founding fathers had no special interest in giving up any religious advantages, but when they stood to gain from a treaty with Tripoli, where reassuring that Muslim natin the US was not a 'Christian nation' like the history in Europe, and enough founding fathers were not exactly Christian (such as Jefferson's cutting all the miracles out of his bible as false), they were willing to say we're not in a treaty.

That wouldn't happen today IMO, too many to offend. ot really stand up to the value of our neutrality as a government.

Instead we just sort of keep an uneasy truce where the constitution isn't changed, but these issues come up, and Republicans get votes by siding with the poor abused Christians who are only 'equal'.

Indeed, evangelical fundraisers make fortunes with the victim industry - there's a war on Christmas!

For too many Americans, long gone is the forgotten pride in our nation of freedom, including our freedom to celebrate our own way that doesn't interfere with others, expresses no 'superiority' or favoritism.

This story is quite typical - a guy who is overzealous and fails to value the freedom of religion, who is in a position to abuse his power by putting one religion on a military product, with the sub-culture in the military who is someone fervent, if not radicalized, for a religious agenda turning a blind eye. Some know of the rabid missionary approach in the Air Force Academy in recent years.

Do we stand up and say 'this is wrong, by showing favoritism to a religioun' as some people and some military say, or do we say 'but we get to enjoy our side getting privilege, so it's ok' as others say?

 

[Red Dawn]

Indeed, evangelical fundraisers make fortunes with the victim industry - there's a war on Christmas!

Well Christian means Christ like and Christ was a Martyr so the victim mentality is part of the religion though Christ might not approve. Of course the bolded part is just speculation as I'm not Christ like and I don't consider myself a victim.

 

[silverpig]

LOL @ Jesus-rifles

 

[Craig234]

muslims are easily insulted.... a lot of muslims died just because some Danish newspaper printed a picture of mohammed. I say the company should scrape them off.

LOL, I'd like to see an athest owned company put athestic slogans on and here your post when the Christians right responds with outrage. They're not easily offended, right?

 

[Colt45]

Almost every scope reticle has a cross in it... Obviously NOT ROP.

That's why the Soviets had these:

 

[elitejp]

...Right. And if people aren't good, just shoot them with Jesus-rifles. That'll teach them!

I think any rifle would do just fine in teaching someone a lesson.

 

[judasmachine]

Thank God, these things save soldiers' lives. Oh, what? Oh, they die anyway?