Official Xbox 360? Thread...Part Deux

[michaels]

Call me crazy, but I would figure the biggest tech company in the world could handle putting up some servers for their flagship title..I guess I am crazy though.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

It also makes longevity issues a lot easier to deal with. If you have hosted servers...when do you pull the plug on them? With Xbox Live, as long as the matchmaking is still supported (much lower server requirements), then the game will be playable on Xbox Live for as long as wanted. In 7 years, will the PSN still have servers for you to play on? Who knows.

Ok, now that I can understand, although I think that when the game just comes out and for as long as it stays pretty popular that they should be able to offer some. I don't think there's any doubt that Halo will be popular for pretty much the life of the 360.

True...but as a general policy...wouldn't you be pissed if you had a game that you really liked and played with your friends regularly and suddenly that wasn't an option anymore...or you bought a used game only to find out that you can't play it online anymore even though some of your friends still want to play. making it a player hosted setup help immensely in this area.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: mzkhadir

probably the same reason why GOW doesn't have any servers, it costs money to maintain them. Using people to host is cheaper.

No offense but that is not any real defense for not having dedicated servers. This is Microsoft we're talking about, not some indie game developer. I'm reasonably certain they have enough money and probably know enough about servers that it wouldn't be too much of a problem for them. Yes they're trying to keep costs down, but having some dedicated servers is not a bad thing especially when it comes to offering a high quality service that people pay for. Not only that, but it would help combat exploiters and people using potentially modified stuff.

I think the real reason they don't do it is so they don't get screwed for not banning all the people swearing and throwing racial epithets all over the place.

As for Halo 3, did anyone notice the guy saying its pretty much completed they're just polishing it up and boosting the graphics? Sounds like however they worked this time, it was the right way to do things (we'll see based on the finished game). Either they had a bigger and better managed workforce, they had a lot of stuff in place from back during Halo 2, or they were just really on the ball. Maybe all of the above. Hopefully the campaign is fairly lengthy and has a proper conclusion.

Of course, something tells me that the co-op is going to be at most similar to Gears where you can play online or on the same system, but only 2 players. I really wish a company would build in the co-op aspect from the start and make it so that it can be more than just two people. To me that would be awesome.

the rumor is that it's 4 player co-op, and this rumor is from someone who's snooping around the menus in the beta.

Like how people are getting into custom games and stuff by getting into the other menus. There is a 4 player option in there for coop apparently. But this is still a beta so that doesn't mean its final.

 

[michaels]

Brothers In Arms gameplay...wow!
http://www.xboxyde.com/stream_3895_en.html

 

[Queasy]

I'm going to have to go buy that 360 controller wireless adapter for the PC now. Gametap just started offering free ad-supported games.

Panzer Dragoon, Metal Slug 2, Art of Fighting, The King of Fighters '95 and Tomb Raider: Legend among others. Sweet.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I'm going to have to go buy that 360 controller wireless adapter for the PC now. Gametap just started offering free ad-supported games.

Panzer Dragoon, Metal Slug 2, Art of Fighting, The King of Fighters '95 and Tomb Raider: Legend among others. Sweet.

Nice. The wireless adapter for the 360 controllers works great.

Any idea on whether GameTap is supported in Vista yet? Last I checked a couple of months ago, it wasn't.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

True...but as a general policy...wouldn't you be pissed if you had a game that you really liked and played with your friends regularly and suddenly that wasn't an option anymore...or you bought a used game only to find out that you can't play it online anymore even though some of your friends still want to play. making it a player hosted setup help immensely in this area.

But that's it, I'm saying that you wouldn't do away with hosting on individual systems, but there would be a number of servers for say the die-hard crowd that only plays ranked games and things like that. So you could do both, have a centralized server, but still allow people to host if they want to.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

the rumor is that it's 4 player co-op, and this rumor is from someone who's snooping around the menus in the beta.

Like how people are getting into custom games and stuff by getting into the other menus. There is a 4 player option in there for coop apparently. But this is still a beta so that doesn't mean its final.

I think it'd be great, but I just doubt its going to happen. I think Bungie has promised it several times along the way (even said they would with Halo 2 I think). I seem to remember there being some menu that people saw with the leaked version of Halo 2 that showed something like 4 player co-op. I guess we'll just have to see. I just know that co-op makes FPSes much more fun (and is a big reason I wasn't really able to get into most PC ones). I would guess it is the main reason I liked the first one so much and could stand playing through the second one.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: Queasy
I'm going to have to go buy that 360 controller wireless adapter for the PC now. Gametap just started offering free ad-supported games.

Panzer Dragoon, Metal Slug 2, Art of Fighting, The King of Fighters '95 and Tomb Raider: Legend among others. Sweet.

Nice. The wireless adapter for the 360 controllers works great.

Any idea on whether GameTap is supported in Vista yet? Last I checked a couple of months ago, it wasn't.

Reading through the support section of GameTap, it looks like it depends on what video card and drivers you have.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: michaels

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: michaels
The lag in Halo 3 is horrible on BTB among others..I wonder why MS has no dedicated servers for the big game for 360 while games like Resistance have free servers for 40 players.

Why the hell do you feel the need to bitch about everything Halo 3? The lag in BTB is only bad because of whomever is hosting it, that or you have a crappy connection. Jesus christ.

Why do feel the need to cheerlead everything halo 3? Unbunch your panties..the name fits. And nice way to dodge my question/point.

Since you think I dodged your question/point, here's my response: I don't get any lag in BTB.

 

[michaels]

That's nice, but still doesn't address the issue.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: michaels
That's nice, but still doesn't address the issue.

Actually all your questions were answered. Just because you don't like the answers or agree with the decisions.

1. The lag isn't horrible for everybody. It was a result of the connection between you and the person hosting.

2. MS doesn't have dedicated servers because it saves them money, and so they don't have to support the servers forever. This system works well most of the time, and people will always be able to play each other long after MS loses interest.

 

[ivol07]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: michaels
That's nice, but still doesn't address the issue.

Actually all your questions were answered. Just because you don't like the answers or agree with the decisions.

1. The lag isn't horrible for everybody. It was a result of the connection between you and the person hosting.

2. MS doesn't have dedicated servers because it saves them money, and so they don't have to support the servers forever. This system works well most of the time, and people will always be able to play each other long after MS loses interest.

Yup, MS will not spend the money to make a small percentage of people happy. I would be willing to bet that at least half of the people who play on xbox live will not even know what a dedicated server is. Maybe when the subscriber numbers start falling they'll consider it, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Especially with Halo 3 hitting in a few months. BTW, I played 5 games of BTB last night and had lag in one.

 

[Cabages]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: Queasy
I'm going to have to go buy that 360 controller wireless adapter for the PC now. Gametap just started offering free ad-supported games.

Panzer Dragoon, Metal Slug 2, Art of Fighting, The King of Fighters '95 and Tomb Raider: Legend among others. Sweet.

Nice. The wireless adapter for the 360 controllers works great.

Any idea on whether GameTap is supported in Vista yet? Last I checked a couple of months ago, it wasn't.

Wow, cool thanks for the heads up. I'll be able to use it for my wheel and my controller.

Im becoming more and more convinced that Forza 2 is an exceptional game. It just feels right, especially with the wheel.

BTW, Tomb Raider: Legend is the good one, right?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Cabages
BTW, Tomb Raider: Legend is the good one, right?

Yep. I rented it for the 360 and it is easily the best Tomb Raider since the original.

 

[RagingBITCH]

I'm quite impressed by DIRT...much moreso than the Forza 2 demo...looks like a definite buy when it comes out! :thumbsup:

 

[michaels]

yeah DIRT rocks but it's lame as hell that there isn't head to head multiplayer on the modes ingame that are head to head..wth?

 

[effowe]

Don't know if it's been posted in this thread, but this peripheral is a must for any PC FPS gamer coming over to the 360.

XFPS 360 Pro

New video showing it in action.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: effowe
Don't know if it's been posted in this thread, but this peripheral is a must for any PC FPS gamer coming over to the 360.

XFPS 360 Pro

New video showing it in action.

Wow, that video doesn't really do anything for the product. For one, the guy playing looks like he sucks. Too much standing and not enough strafing. Two, that looks like an awful long reach to zoom. Three, the sensitivity looked like it was way off on the mouse. It appeared as if he had to move the mouse 2 or 3 inches to turn 20 degrees on the screen.

If you can adjust the sensitivity and somehow map buttons, then it would probably be a good device. I didn't both to read the link to see if these two things could be done .

As long as my console is in my living room, I will continue to enjoy using a controller on console FPS's.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: michaels
yeah DIRT rocks but it's lame as hell that there isn't head to head multiplayer on the modes ingame that are head to head..wth?

Maybe it's just a demo thing?

Sorry for being bitchy earlier, we're all 360 fans here

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: michaels
yeah DIRT rocks but it's lame as hell that there isn't head to head multiplayer on the modes ingame that are head to head..wth?

Maybe it's just a demo thing?

Sorry for being bitchy earlier, we're all 360 fans here

Awwwwwwwww!! :heart:

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Cabages
Wow, cool thanks for the heads up. I'll be able to use it for my wheel and my controller.

Im becoming more and more convinced that Forza 2 is an exceptional game. It just feels right, especially with the wheel.

BTW, Tomb Raider: Legend is the good one, right?

You found the wheel controls good? You didn't find them oversensitive or did you alter them a bit?

Like I've mentioned before I found PGR3's wheel control pretty decent, but the rest were bleh.

 

[Queasy]

Damn, I love the customization options in Forza - South Park Car

 

[Queasy]

Man, if it isn't one thing it is another.

The PS in my file server died so I took the one out of my work PC and put it in there and put a new PS in my work PC. At some point, this killed the power connector or motor in my boot drive on my work PC. So, I get a new drive and load up Windows Media Center XP only to discover that now any videos that I transcoded from Xvid to WMV won't work. They show up in the media center on the 360 just fine. But when you try to open them, they just hang at the loading circle thing. Videos ripped from DVD or videos from my DV camera work fine. It is only the ones I've transcoded.

Grrrrr

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Cabages
BTW, Tomb Raider: Legend is the good one, right?

Yep. I rented it for the 360 and it is easily the best Tomb Raider since the original.

Agreed. I had my doubts, but my wife bought the game for me for my birthday a year ago and it was a lot of fun. Not the best graphics, but more than sufficient and the gameplay is fun. Great animations.