**OFFICIAL WAR THREAD** 7th Calvary fights off Iraqi attack; Bush seeks 75 billion for war

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Alistar7

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Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf
Originally posted by: Morph
Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf
FYI - MSNBC has confirmed the uprising in Basra

If you want your post to be taken seriously, please provide a link. Don't expect people here to just take your word for it.

BTW, I just checked the MSNBC site and this story is nowhere to be found. Personally, I'm very skeptical of this story as the Fox report was very vague and just sounds like more propaganda.

If you want your posts to not sound like you're a complete idiot, try opening yer eyes. It's all over every news channel now. moron...

Its the anti-saddam group revolting against the Iraqi troops right?

Yes, also Saddam's Feddayen (sp?) are dressing as US soldiers, accepting the surrender of regular Iraqi military and then executing them (real nice). I wonder if that will end up on al jazeera?

as long as they still have their fatigues on.....still better than having to waste a "civilian" who is firing at you, fully dressed but without shoes.....
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MoobyTheGoldenCalf

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Originally posted by: Staley8
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: PG
huge battle, 150 to 500 Iraqis killed
see cnn or msnbc

edit: no report yet of US casualties so it could be bad

All indications none lost so far, the third did most of that fighting, the 7th is moppping up while the 3rd carries out it's personal mission to conquer the entire middle east.....

Ok, if I'm an Iraqi fighter and I see 150-500 of my fellow soldiers get killed and we don't kill even 10 of theirs (much less 1) I think I'd realize we were overmatched and probably retreat or give up....that's just suicide. Luckily for me, I'm not an Iraqi fighter.....go US and coalition forces!!!!


Looks like the iraqis thought they could use the sandstorm as cover for this attack. NOT!!! :D
 

Krugger

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Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Krugger
Awesome, hit them with an experiment EMP weapon, knocked them off the air.
-Krugger

Is that really how they did it? Anybody have confirmation?

Sorry, forgot to mention where i heard it, it was from NBC news, reporter sounded pretty certain about it. The exact quote was what i posted "hit them with an experiment EMP weapon, knocking them off the air. " no independant confirm. yet tho.
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf
Originally posted by: Staley8
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: PG
huge battle, 150 to 500 Iraqis killed
see cnn or msnbc

edit: no report yet of US casualties so it could be bad

All indications none lost so far, the third did most of that fighting, the 7th is moppping up while the 3rd carries out it's personal mission to conquer the entire middle east.....

Ok, if I'm an Iraqi fighter and I see 150-500 of my fellow soldiers get killed and we don't kill even 10 of theirs (much less 1) I think I'd realize we were overmatched and probably retreat or give up....that's just suicide. Luckily for me, I'm not an Iraqi fighter.....go US and coalition forces!!!!


Looks like the iraqis thought they could use the sandstorm as cover for this attack. NOT!!! :D

no but WE did use it to flank them.......:Q

 

AU Tiger

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Wolf Blitzer is reporting that Marines have taken a hospital in Nasiriya, found munitions as well as 3000 chemical suits and masks.
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: AU Tiger
Wolf Blizter is reporting that Marines have taken a hospital in Nasiriya, found munitions as well as 3000 chemical suits and masks.

now why would they need chemical protection and pills in case of anthrax exposure??????
 

Krk3561

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
what if the 3rd won't stop after Bagdad, defies orders and captures Iran as well?

ummm that wont happen, our military isn't full of rouges
 

Morph

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Alistar, answer my question in the other thread. Where are all the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??

I'm asking you since you seem to have all this inside information about what's going on over there.
 

no0b

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
what if the 3rd won't stop after Bagdad, defies orders and captures Iran as well?

We will make Iraq and Iran one big country then call it New America ;)
 

MoobyTheGoldenCalf

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Originally posted by: Morph
Alistar, answer my question in the other thread. Where are all the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??

I'm asking you since you seem to have all this inside information about what's going on over there.

Why don't you try asking the iraqis who were guarding the 3,000 chem suits and 1,000's of doses of cipiro?
 

Morph

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Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf
Originally posted by: Morph
Alistar, answer my question in the other thread. Where are all the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??

I'm asking you since you seem to have all this inside information about what's going on over there.

Why don't you try asking the iraqis who were guarding the 3,000 chem suits and 1,000's of doses of cipiro?

How many chem suits, gas masks and cipiro doses do you think the US military has? Does that incriminate them as well? The US certainly has the capability to conduct chem/bio warfare. Whether Iraq does has yet to be proven by anyone.

Vincent, this belongs in the "Merits of the War" thread stickied at the top of the Forum
 

everman

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Hm hearing about some of these friendly fire incidents are puzzling. American F-16 destroys a U.S. patriot missile battery(no death/injury). And a british tank firing upon another british tank (killing 2). It's difficult to think of how that could happen.
 

BaDaBooM

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Originally posted by: Krugger
Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Krugger
Awesome, hit them with an experiment EMP weapon, knocked them off the air.
-Krugger

Is that really how they did it? Anybody have confirmation?

Sorry, forgot to mention where i heard it, it was from NBC news, reporter sounded pretty certain about it. The exact quote was what i posted "hit them with an experiment EMP weapon, knocking them off the air. " no independant confirm. yet tho.

Cool, haven't seen it on Fox or CNN, but since I missed the NBC I hope they cover it.
 

MoobyTheGoldenCalf

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Originally posted by: Morph
Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf
Originally posted by: Morph
Alistar, answer my question in the other thread. Where are all the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??

I'm asking you since you seem to have all this inside information about what's going on over there.

Why don't you try asking the iraqis who were guarding the 3,000 chem suits and 1,000's of doses of cipiro?

How many chem suits, gas masks and cipiro doses do you think the US military has? Does that incriminate them as well? The US certainly has the capability to conduct chem/bio warfare. Whether Iraq does has yet to be proven by anyone.


Ahhhhh, OK. I see now... I thought we were having an INTELLIGENT conversation. Where's a good ignore list when you need one.........
 

Morph

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Originally posted by: everman
Hm hearing about some of these friendly fire incidents are puzzling. American F-16 destroys a U.S. patriot missile battery(no death/injury). And a british tank firing upon another british tank (killing 2). It's difficult to think of how that could happen.

Why does that surprise you? In the Gulf War, 25% of deaths were from friendly fire. So far in this war, more that 1/3 of the deaths have been caused by friendly fire or accidents/mishaps. Our equipment may be top-notch, but it's only as good as the humans who are operating it. And our military doesn't get much chance to use this stuff in real-world situations.
 

MoobyTheGoldenCalf

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Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Krugger
Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Krugger
Awesome, hit them with an experiment EMP weapon, knocked them off the air.
-Krugger

Is that really how they did it? Anybody have confirmation?

Sorry, forgot to mention where i heard it, it was from NBC news, reporter sounded pretty certain about it. The exact quote was what i posted "hit them with an experiment EMP weapon, knocking them off the air. " no independant confirm. yet tho.

Cool, haven't seen it on Fox or CNN, but since I missed the NBC I hope they cover it.

I wonder how much permanent damage those things will do? Hopefully it's not something that will 'wear off' or can be repaired soon.
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Morph
Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf
Originally posted by: Morph
Alistar, answer my question in the other thread. Where are all the WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??

I'm asking you since you seem to have all this inside information about what's going on over there.

Why don't you try asking the iraqis who were guarding the 3,000 chem suits and 1,000's of doses of cipiro?

How many chem suits, gas masks and cipiro doses do you think the US military has? Does that incriminate them as well? The US certainly has the capability to conduct chem/bio warfare. Whether Iraq does has yet to be proven by anyone.


I think the Kurds have been convinced. I remember you from that thread, apparently you havent learned a thing. Saddam is the one who the burden of proof falls upon. ONCE AGAIN he accepted this responsibility, the privelage of shifting that burden to me is hardly your perogative. There are 10,000 liters of Anthrax and tons of VX nerve agents YET ACCOUNTED FOR, meaning their existence is not disputed, but their LOCATION is, if you question this your problem lies with THE UN not me. The difference between Saddam and the US is WE WOULDNT USE our WMD without fantastic probable cause, unlike he, who uses them in attacks on innocent civilians within his own country for no legitimate (if there ever could be one) reason....

now go ask the UN why they were so intent of Saddam proving he DID NOT have these ANYMORE...

Please take this discussion over to the "Merits of the Iraqi Conflict " thread
 

everman

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Originally posted by: Morph
Originally posted by: everman
Hm hearing about some of these friendly fire incidents are puzzling. American F-16 destroys a U.S. patriot missile battery(no death/injury). And a british tank firing upon another british tank (killing 2). It's difficult to think of how that could happen.

Why does that surprise you? In the Gulf War, 25% of deaths were from friendly fire. So far in this war, more that 1/3 of the deaths have been caused by friendly fire or accidents/mishaps. Our equipment may be top-notch, but it's only as good as the humans who are operating it. And our military doesn't get much chance to use this stuff in real-world situations.

Just being that a Brit fired on another Brit tank, it would seem pretty hard to confuse that with the junkers the Iraqis are using.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Kntx
wtf, republican guards dressing and mingling with civilians then attacking or soldiers from witihin the crowd.
My solution Tear gas the whole fvcking lot, tie up up and interview with interpreter and find out who is who.
Apologize to the real civilians give em some MRE and water and send them on their merry way. No hard feelings



So what you're saying is... the US should use chemical weapons?

I think you using the term chemical weapons as meaning the same thing as WMD. Is tear gas considered WMD? I don't think so unless the police is guilty of using WMD.... I think tear gas would be valid and even more humain as it is non-lethal.
Unfortunately, tear gas is considered a chemical weapon. They tried to use it in Bosnia (I thnk) and got shot down.

 

BaDaBooM

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Originally posted by: Kntx
wtf, republican guards dressing and mingling with civilians then attacking or soldiers from witihin the crowd.
My solution Tear gas the whole fvcking lot, tie up up and interview with interpreter and find out who is who.
Apologize to the real civilians give em some MRE and water and send them on their merry way. No hard feelings



So what you're saying is... the US should use chemical weapons?

I think you using the term chemical weapons as meaning the same thing as WMD. Is tear gas considered WMD? I don't think so unless the police is guilty of using WMD.... I think tear gas would be valid and even more humain as it is non-lethal.
Unfortunately, tear gas is considered a chemical weapon. They tried to use it in Bosnia (I thnk) and got shot down.

well, yea.. it's chemical but does that mean that people don't like it when it is used like WMD? Seems strange that that would be the case. Especially since it is non-lethal without permanent effects (as far as I know) and police use it to control crowds all the time.
 

rudeguy

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dang..did you see that thermal image when we blew up that tank...that iraqi was trying to run before the bomb hit...you saw him running...you saw the explosion...then he wasnt running