while researching this, I found the Bush family tree, and it can be traced all the way back to pre 1700! that's kinda cool.
OK, I give up on this thread.
Obviously it took a while for me to realize it was flamebait.
All links provided were to left-wing sources with an agenda.
My bad.
Obviously it took a while for me to realize it was flamebait.
All links provided were to left-wing sources with an agenda.
My bad.
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Gosh, this is really grasping for straws. If this is the only kinda dirt u could dig up on Bush, he's in good shape.
<< Gosh, this is really grasping for straws. If this is the only kinda dirt u could dig up on Bush, he's in good shape. >>
ROFL
WERD to that.
Ok guys, this is a democracy- obviously you all either think
A) its too old to be important B) The Bushs didnt do anything out of the ordinary.
So, in the spirit of democracy, I will yield the floor and say: I guess if you are all in agreement, I must be wrong somehow. I personally found this info kind of shocking when I read it, but maybe I am just too much of an idealist
lol... I can be reasonable.
Peace
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<< Gosh, this is really grasping for straws. If this is the only kinda dirt u could dig up on Bush, he's in good shape. >>
ROFL
WERD to that.
Ok guys, this is a democracy- obviously you all either think
A) its too old to be important B) The Bushs didnt do anything out of the ordinary.
So, in the spirit of democracy, I will yield the floor and say: I guess if you are all in agreement, I must be wrong somehow. I personally found this info kind of shocking when I read it, but maybe I am just too much of an idealist
lol... I can be reasonable.
Peace >>
WOW! Maturity and REASONABILTY on ATOT! horror of horrors!
<< WOW! Maturity and REASONABILTY on ATOT! horror of horrors! >>
HAHAH well this isnt just a normal run of the mill shout-house [ -H- ] forum (ahem) hehe
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<< WOW! Maturity and REASONABILTY on ATOT! horror of horrors! >>
HAHAH well this isnt just a normal run of the mill shout-house [ -H- ] forum (ahem) hehe >>
My coke just exited my my mouth explosively via my nostrils.
Yes, well, congratulations for just now stumbling upon historical information that has been public record and well-known for about 45 years. You forget to mention that Prescott Bush was cleared by federal investigators of any wrong-doing or knowingly associating with Nazi's, indeed the Nazi's were very good at COVERTLY infiltrating many corporations and government agencies then exerting influence on them. They performed a similar maneuver on the Paris office of Chase-Manhattan bank, just to name one of many other examples.
On Edit: I mean, I don't want to discourage you from learning about history. But, when you learn something new, before climbing to your nearest roof-top and informing the neighborhood about it, you should ask yourself one question: "Is this really news or is it just news to me?"
On Edit: I mean, I don't want to discourage you from learning about history. But, when you learn something new, before climbing to your nearest roof-top and informing the neighborhood about it, you should ask yourself one question: "Is this really news or is it just news to me?"
"Yes, well, congratulations for just now stumbling upon historical information that has been public record and well-known for about 45 years. "
Ahh dont get me started again dude, I already surrendered. This is not well known info..
Ahh dont get me started again dude, I already surrendered. This is not well known info..
If you looked back far enough on anyones family-tree, yuo would see that each family has it's share of idiots. I don't think the Bush-family is an exception.
<< If you looked back far enough on anyones family-tree, yuo would see that each family has it's share of idiots. I don't think the Bush-family is an exception. >>
Neither is LordSegan's family.
nik
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<< If you looked back far enough on anyones family-tree, yuo would see that each family has it's share of idiots. I don't think the Bush-family is an exception. >>
Neither is LordSegan's family.
nik >>
Luckily we don't have to look far on his.
really he has a dirty past? i guess the cocaine snorting and drunk driving wasn't dirty enough for you eh? here's a good way to tell if they have a dirty past: if they are a politician.
rubix
It's that type of cynical attitude against all politicians that will destroy this great experiment. Not every politician is corrupt and what mistakes a person has made in the past does not define who a person is today. I am concerned that the current generation is so jaded and cynical that they will give up hope on what is still the best system of government that has been found. This form of government takes involvement by it's citizens, not just an attitude of "they are all corrupt so who cares".
If you think something is broke, get involved and help to change it.
It's that type of cynical attitude against all politicians that will destroy this great experiment. Not every politician is corrupt and what mistakes a person has made in the past does not define who a person is today. I am concerned that the current generation is so jaded and cynical that they will give up hope on what is still the best system of government that has been found. This form of government takes involvement by it's citizens, not just an attitude of "they are all corrupt so who cares".
If you think something is broke, get involved and help to change it.
<<
<< If you look back, most people weren't even aware of what was going on inside of Germany. >>
Yea, except Prescott Bush wasnt most people dude. He was a senior member of a bank with major holdings in Germany. He also became a US Senator. >>
How often do people complain about their representatives in Congress having no clue as to what is going on in their own backyard?
Oh the apathy.
This aside, I would think people would be more concerned with the Bush family connections to the Reverend Moon (aka Moonies) which has shown it's face time and time again on the Bush agenda. Most recently, the inaugural prayer luncheon which Bush declared shortly after entering the office last January was bought and paid for by none other than the Reverend Moon. Bush Sr. also gives talks in various countries on behalf of Moon. Moon who has been sought for various crimes around the world and is his own self-appointed "savior" for America and the world and frequently says "Americans are too focused on individualism and that system must be changed" is the one these wealthy, political elites cater to.
That's really scary. Now back to your regularly scheduled program, America.
This aside, I would think people would be more concerned with the Bush family connections to the Reverend Moon (aka Moonies) which has shown it's face time and time again on the Bush agenda. Most recently, the inaugural prayer luncheon which Bush declared shortly after entering the office last January was bought and paid for by none other than the Reverend Moon. Bush Sr. also gives talks in various countries on behalf of Moon. Moon who has been sought for various crimes around the world and is his own self-appointed "savior" for America and the world and frequently says "Americans are too focused on individualism and that system must be changed" is the one these wealthy, political elites cater to.
That's really scary. Now back to your regularly scheduled program, America.
etech, i can assure you you don't want me fixing the things that i think are broke in this country. i'm doing you all a favor (assuming i had the power to influence significant changes in the first place). see, right there that shows i wouldn't make a good politician... i actually don't want to f people over and i don't do drugs or cheat on my wife either.
Damn LordSegan, I haven't seen anyone take a beating like this since Rob Reiner's release of the movie, North
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<< Damn LordSegan, I haven't seen anyone take a beating like this since Rob Reiner's release of the movie, North >>
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Actually, this is a very, very old story that haunted Bush, Sr. for his entire political career (esp. his run for a presidential nomination that was ultimately won by Reagan)-and this was a guy who was a legit war hero in WW II. No sitting out the war in the National Guard for him.
Despite the insinuations above, Prescott Bush was not a dimwit or a monster. He was a very respectable politician whose right wing leanings unfortunately blinded him (and many others of his day) to the extremism of Nazi facism.
I have many concerns about the current Bush, but his grandfather's actions play absolutely no part in those concerns.
Despite the insinuations above, Prescott Bush was not a dimwit or a monster. He was a very respectable politician whose right wing leanings unfortunately blinded him (and many others of his day) to the extremism of Nazi facism.
I have many concerns about the current Bush, but his grandfather's actions play absolutely no part in those concerns.
<< Damn LordSegan, I haven't seen anyone take a beating like this since Rob Reiner's release of the movie, North >>
I couldnt have said it better myself
... ouch... guys..lol<< Despite the insinuations above, Prescott Bush was not a dimwit or a monster. He was a very respectable politician whose right wing leanings unfortunately blinded him (and many others of his day) to the extremism of Nazi facism. >>
I agree, you sound like you have a pretty good grasp of it all.
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