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K1052

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Ah Lutnick is getting Commerce. I don't think people really any idea how fucked things are going to get economically.
 

AG907

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There is nothing to refute. A simple fact is a fact. Your inferences from it are what I take issue with. You do not understand this which is why other people are calling out your reading comprehension. With every post here you reinforce the fact that you don't even understand the conversation. Until you start showing signs of intelligence I am done with you other than maybe dunking on you from time to time.
818,000 jobs less than the initial report according to the NYT. That makes it the biggest jobs revision in 15 years.
 
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I predict his second term won't be as crazy as his third.

My guess is he'll be succeeded by Vance.

I really can't see him managing to repeal the 22nd amendment and even though the Supreme Court does seem to have somehow acquired the ability to render entire amendments unusable/meaningless, I don't see how they would destroy that one.
 

dank69

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My guess is he'll be succeeded by Vance.

I really can't see him managing to repeal the 22nd amendment and even though the Supreme Court does seem to have somehow acquired the ability to render entire amendments unusable/meaningless, I don't see how they would destroy that one.
They don't need him anymore. They could execute him on day one and slide Vance right in. Nothing anybody can do to stop the GOP now.
 

AG907

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They don't need him anymore. They could execute him on day one and slide Vance right in. Nothing anybody can do to stop the GOP now.
RINO's are the biggest threat to the MAGA movement atm and they will eventually be purged. McConnell retiring is a blessing.
 

eelw

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Lol turning on Moscow Mitch? He handled the only accomplishments during the first orange monkey term.
 

ivwshane

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There is nothing to refute. A simple fact is a fact. Your inferences from it are what I take issue with. You do not understand this which is why other people are calling out your reading comprehension. With every post here you reinforce the fact that you don't even understand the conversation. Until you start showing signs of intelligence I am done with you other than maybe dunking on you from time to time.

Is it too much to ask for to wish for people who are capable of actually debating on the merits? How hard is it to follow the conversation that job numbers are revised all the time? How hard is it to understand that under Trump there was “the biggest jobs revision” as well? Hell, What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that 15 years since an even bigger revision happened really isn’t that long ago?

It’s like trying to debate a squirrel. It’s pointless because they are all over the place.

Is there anyone on the right that isn’t an idiot? I thought maybe Ben Shapiro is that guy but then I watched him debate and it was the same shit, straw man after straw man with red herrings and non sequitur conclusions.
 
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HomerJS

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RINO's are the biggest threat to the MAGA movement atm and they will eventually be purged. McConnell retiring is a blessing.
Name one thing Trump has done to primarily benefit the working class/average joe.
 

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dank69

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Is it too much to ask for to wish for people who are capable of actually debating on the merits? How hard is it to follow the conversation that job numbers are revised all the time? How hard is it to understand that under Trump there was “the biggest jobs revision” as well? Hell, What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that 15 years since an even bigger revision happened really isn’t that long ago?

It’s like trying to debate a squirrel. It’s pointless because they are all over the place.

Is there anyone on the right that isn’t an idiot? I thought maybe Ben Shapiro is that guy but then I watched him debate and it was the same shit, straw man after straw man with red herrings and non sequitur conclusions.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you don't become conservative by using logic. It's pure feels. That's why conservatism and religion are tightly correlated.
 

AG907

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Is it too much to ask for to wish for people who are capable of actually debating on the merits? How hard is it to follow the conversation that job numbers are revised all the time? How hard is it to understand that under Trump there was “the biggest jobs revision” as well? Hell, What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that 15 years since an even bigger revision happened really isn’t that long ago?

It’s like trying to debate a squirrel. It’s pointless because they are all over the place.

Is there anyone on the right that isn’t an idiot? I thought maybe Ben Shapiro is that guy but then I watched him debate and it was the same shit, straw man after straw man with red herrings and non sequitur conclusions.
The largest jobs revision in the past fifteen years was Biden at 818,000 jobs.
 

K1052

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How do you define a RINO?

It is amusing how people have deluded themselves into thinking MAGA isn't really mostly just rebranded GOP policy. Like Trump's main legislative goal for the next for years is a big tax cut for corps and high earners while slashing healthcare benefits as much as possible. The most standard Republican policy imaginable.
 

dank69

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It is amusing how people have deluded themselves into thinking MAGA isn't really mostly just rebranded GOP policy. Like Trump's main legislative goal for the next for years is a big tax cut for corps and high earners while slashing healthcare benefits as much as possible. The most standard Republican policy imaginable.
There is no thinking. It's all reactionary.
 

fskimospy

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It is amusing how people have deluded themselves into thinking MAGA isn't really mostly just rebranded GOP policy. Like Trump's main legislative goal for the next for years is a big tax cut for corps and high earners while slashing healthcare benefits as much as possible. The most standard Republican policy imaginable.
It is funny how the paleo-cons got elected and cut taxes for the rich.

Then the Tea Party tossed out all those paleo-cons and replaced them with Real Conservatives... who then cut taxes for the rich.

Then Trump came to power, MAGA sweeping away the old Republicans with Real Conservatives... who then cut taxes for the rich.

I'm sure this time will be different though!
 

SteveGrabowski

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My guess is he'll be succeeded by Vance.

I really can't see him managing to repeal the 22nd amendment and even though the Supreme Court does seem to have somehow acquired the ability to render entire amendments unusable/meaningless, I don't see how they would destroy that one.
If he wants to pretend laws matter to him any more he could just invent a new position, say prime minister with all the powers of president, and then win that.
 

pmv

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If he wants to pretend laws matter to him any more he could just invent a new position, say prime minister with all the powers of president, and then win that.

Maybe, but on the other hand, he's very old and has a terrible lifestyle, and he's in good part a puppet/figurehead for others, so why would they not be happy to swap him out for a younger/healthier/slightly-less-demented figure like Vance?

And they don't need to completely revoke democracy, they only need to continue to erode it sufficiently to ensure they continue to win in perpetuity (as with the likes of Orban - even Putin didn't come to power as an unchallengeable despot).

The capitalist/plutocrat class don't necessarily _want_ fascism. A minority of them are OK with it and probably think they can work with it, but most of them probably don't want it, they are just completely focused on their own short-term benefit. The destruction of liberal democracy will likely come about as a backlash to their self-serving behaviour as much as a direct result of it.
 

HomerJS

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Such as wages going up along with job growth ... both of which happened under Trump's tenure. Best of all it was the private sector that reaped the benefits.


Unlike Obama ....

That's not what I asked you. I can use the same logic Trump killed hundreds of thousands of people because Covid happened on his watch.

Example Biden capped insulin for Medicare patients at $35 which is an average person benefit. We know the Trump tax cuts primarily benefitted the rich but what did he do for the middle class/average person?

"Happening under you watch" is not causation. Wages/job growth were already going up when Trump took office. In fact, Obama's last term was better than Trump's first.
 

AG907

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That's not what I asked you. I can use the same logic Trump killed hundreds of thousands of people because Covid happened on his watch.

Example Biden capped insulin for Medicare patients at $35 which is an average person benefit. We know the Trump tax cuts primarily benefitted the rich but what did he do for the middle class/average person?

"Happening under you watch" is not causation. Wages/job growth were already going up when Trump took office. In fact, Obama's last term was better than Trump's first.
Next time bring your A game. I'm not part of the echo chamber.

 
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AG907

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And yet, he never actually DID it. Funny.
Again bring your A game as in do your homework first. You're obviously too used to an echo chamber by now.


President Trump capped Medicare enrollees’ out-of-pocket copays for insulin at $35/month — saving beneficiaries an average out-of-pocket savings of 66%.

President Trump signed an executive order aimed at making insulin and EpiPens more affordable — but was blocked by the Harris-Biden administration almost as soon as they took office.
 
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