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dminimal

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Is there a good chance of getting the Thoroughbred B version from newegg these days?
any money says it will be the ONLY version you can get.
i wouldn't worry one bit about getting a TBred-B..
Ooh, okay. I must not have read far enough in the XP 1700+ thread.
 

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It seems up till about a week or two ago newegg was shipping alot of Tbred A's. I just ordered a 1700+ on monday, it arrived wednesday and was a Tbred B AXDA1700DUT3C 9486166280330 JIUHB0312VPMW. I haven't tried overclocking it yet, it's for my brother's system he's upgrading. He also snagged 512mb PC2700 Corsair memory from newegg for $50 shipped and we're gonna be trying it all out on the ECS L7S7A2 ($60 shipped).
 

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I've hit a bit of a wall with overclocking and while I probably know what's wrong I wanted to double check to see what you guys think...

I've got a SL-75FRN2-L w/ a 2100+ Tbred B 0306 @ 2.05ghz @ 10x205 @ 1.625V.

Now it runs rock stable at these settings. But trouble starts when I go above this. 2.1ghz runs Prime95 fine but 3dmark crashes after a run or two. 2.2ghz doesnt even let me get into windows half the time. And above that, windows won't boot at all. I know it's not the memory. I've got some Samsung PC3200 and i've tried the most relaxed memory timings.

Even if i up the voltage, the problems persist. Now, my theory is it's my power supply. I got an Allied 350W and my friend told me that my +12V reading is rather low. It hovers around the 11.39 to 11.49 range. Could this be why I can't overclock any higher. Suggetsions welcome. Thanks.

Cheers.
 

DAPUNISHER

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So you increse the Vcore and stability beyond 2.1ghz isn't improved correct? Have you tried upping the vDIMM along with relaxing the timings? What about raising the vdd voltage? Are you pushing higher FSB or are you using the multiplier to try beyond 2.1ghz stable? Sorry for all the questions just trying to see if there's something you can do you haven't treid yet :) Your 12v is a bit below what I'd consider exceptable so it could be the limiting factor I suppose, you are using the P4 style 4 pin connector in conjunction with the regular ATX connector right?
 

CraigRT

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MutantXP.. while you think it is not the memory, it's still possible... in my findings Samsung memory would not overclock one bit. (barely at all) so.. i wouldn't rule that out quite yet, unless you are certain the memory will go farther :p
 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
So you increse the Vcore and stability beyond 2.1ghz isn't improved correct? Have you tried upping the vDIMM along with relaxing the timings? What about raising the vdd voltage? Are you pushing higher FSB or are you using the multiplier to try beyond 2.1ghz stable? Sorry for all the questions just trying to see if there's something you can do you haven't treid yet :) Your 12v is a bit below what I'd consider exceptable so it could be the limiting factor I suppose, you are using the P4 style 4 pin connector in conjunction with the regular ATX connector right?

That's exactly the problem i'm having, Punisher. I have tried to raise the Vdimm and the Vdd and still nothing. I'm not pushing the fsb higher to try beyond 2.1ghz. I'm just raising the multplier to get beyond that. Oh yeah, and I am using the P4 style 4 pin connector. So yeah, thanks for trying to help me figure it out.

Originally posted by: CraigRT
MutantXP.. while you think it is not the memory, it's still possible... in my findings Samsung memory would not overclock one bit. (barely at all) so.. i wouldn't rule that out quite yet, unless you are certain the memory will go farther :p

The thing is, Craig, I'm not really overclocking my memory at all. I know my current fsb is 205, but the problem i've described even occurs when i'm running at just 200mhz fsb. So yeah, I doubt it's my memory since it's not what I'm overclocking. Thanks for the tip anyway.

Cheers.

 

DAPUNISHER

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Well it's down to a PSU with a stronger 12v rating or you've just hit the limit with that particular CPU.
 

MutantXP

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Let's hope it's the former. I might get one soon. I'll let you guys know what's up. Thanks.

Cheers.
 

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I think its jacked up that this thread doesn't get to be official and a sticky. Its the most posted thread of em all. Its probably their bias (only interested in ASUS/ ABIT/ EPOX boards).
 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Well it's down to a PSU with a stronger 12v rating or you've just hit the limit with that particular CPU.

Agreed, a good power supply is a must. I've even bought high dollar "good" power supplies that wouldn't handle the load (I have alot of hard drives :) )
 

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Does this board give you a full range of mutlipliers from whatever to 18? Or is there a divider at 12.5 and 13 depending on ur cpu?
 

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Originally posted by: Naruto
Does this board give you a full range of mutlipliers from whatever to 18? Or is there a divider at 12.5 and 13 depending on ur cpu?

It gives me the full range of multis with my 2100+ tbred b 5.5 all the way up to 18.
 

CraigRT

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I need some help from you fellow Soltek owners.... I swapped my mobo/CPU and everything works perfect (no format) and i am very happy! games are mint and everything.. but when I try to start Nero it locks my computer... (hard reboot) without fail... i've re-installed nero and all the NForce2 drivers... I am kinda getting pissed cause I can't burn any CD's and I don't want to format being as this is my ONLY problem... has anyone heard of this? newer version needed?

any help would be great...... I am running Win2K and using Nero 5.5.7.2

thanks if anyone can help i am really getting anxious....
 

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That's a tough one Craig, a lot of people have that problem with NF2 boards but I've only seen a hotfix for XP so far. I'll go look around and see what I can dig up for w2k. Did you install the Nvidia SW IDE drivers? If so you need to use the windows defaults.
 

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Give this advice a try for the CD-RW problem

In Device Mangler - select each optical drive, then click remove. Then click Search for New Hardware. If that doesn't fix it, do the same...only instead of searching for new hardware, reboot the PC. Drives will be found during start-up.

In Device Mangler - select IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Under it, you should see Primary and Secondary IDE Controllers. Select each one, then Properties>Advanced Settings. In drop-down list, select DMA If Available for each channel. Then reboot. Now any DMA devices will use DMA. this fix worked for a bunch of people so maybe try it first
 

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heh this morning my computer didn't start.....well i think that my motherboard is dead or something but then i thougt that i have to go through all connections and then i found it. My asus ti4400 was a little bit loose from the agp-slot and i pressed it back...and my computer works perfectly...:D.....it's a shame that this board doesn't include the little "thing" on the agp-slot that holds the card in the slot.....:(...
 

DAPUNISHER

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That's cool you sorted it out quickly but I H8 those damned retention clips! :evil: I've used a 8500LE and GF3 ti200 in mine now and the slot is very tight and holds the cards in place well.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Give this advice a try for the CD-RW problem

In Device Mangler - select each optical drive, then click remove. Then click Search for New Hardware. If that doesn't fix it, do the same...only instead of searching for new hardware, reboot the PC. Drives will be found during start-up.

In Device Mangler - select IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Under it, you should see Primary and Secondary IDE Controllers. Select each one, then Properties>Advanced Settings. In drop-down list, select DMA If Available for each channel. Then reboot. Now any DMA devices will use DMA. this fix worked for a bunch of people so maybe try it first

I tried DMA, I always enable it by default. (one of the first things I do :p)
I also am using the microsoft IDE drivers.. I actually tried using the NVIdia drivers but i can't figure out how to install them cause every-time i point to the NVidia IDE directory it says the drivers are Microsoft still... so I have no idea what the hell is going on... heh
but I want to use my CD-RW dammit!
EDIT: so without a word of a lie this is the most problems I've ever had with a mainboard (2nd most = none)
 

DAPUNISHER

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Unfortunately it's a problem between NF2 and W2K so it's a tough one but did you try the uninstalling trick? You can try these tweaked drivers Tweaked XP drivers for W2K peeps claim they work pretty darned good. In the end I don't think the lack of a frsh install is to blame but it may come down to that.
 

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I just wonder....soltek motherboard monitor says that my cpu-temperature is 36C idle and 38-39C after my gamesessions....but where the temperature is measured??.I think that it's not measured on the core because it's so low.....well nice to see how cpu-temperature changes when i put thermalright slk-800 on....i hope it's not rising...:D
 

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Darn i hate this overclocking with these nforce2-motherboards!!.With Epox VIA 333 it was so easy to change FSB with setfsp-program when the windows was on but now i have to make the changes in bios....:(.....well now i'm getting use to it but....
 

DAPUNISHER

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HeyDaysleeper your right about that SLK-800 being an awesome cooler, I used to have one and it was sweet! To see the ABSII temp which is the core temp you need Soltek Hardware Monitor 2.05

As to the windows overclocking vs bios I would much rather have the AGP/PCI lock of the NF2 boards because the idea is you can go as far as the chipset and memory will allow now ;)

BTW, Thanx for the sticky mods! :beer:
 

Daysleeper

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jep i upgrated the soltek HM to ver. 2.05 right after i had the board....i guess the core temperature is ABS II and it's IDLE 35C and after runnig pifast 3.3 3 times in a row it raises to 45C....my adjustable fan is at minimum speed so i guess this system is OK now but i just paid the 49? (including posting 7?) so i guess i have a new heatsink tomorrow or the day after....:)...my case