Stores November 5th. Reviews likely a few days before that.Excuse me if it has been mentioned before, because I am sure it has, but when on earth are the actual reviews going to hit and when do they hit the stores? hmmm
Stores November 5th. Reviews likely a few days before that.Excuse me if it has been mentioned before, because I am sure it has, but when on earth are the actual reviews going to hit and when do they hit the stores? hmmm
I don't think there is another NDA date for reviews except 5 November. So, most probably, except additional info given at the Radeon launch event, we should expect reviews coming online in 05.11
I'm curious why all the "leaked" Ryzen 5000 GB5 results in multi-core mode have been quite ... abysmal, i.e. there's zero increase over the Ryzen 3000 series:
One explanation is that the multi-core test is memory speed/timings sensitive and these results are from motherboards vendors which often use the cheapest RAM available.
It's GeekBench? I'm not worried about it. We'll see the real numbers soon enough.
It's just 10 days until NDA is lifted, no stress.There's a direct correlation between GB5 and SPEC results and GB5 is a good indicator of overall performance.
There's a direct correlation between GB5 and SPEC results and GB5 is a good indicator of overall performance.
I got a feeling from the presentation that a 5000 series CPUs are for enthusiasts and gamers, other people can live with the last year CPUs.
Zen 3 will most likely make a appearance during the Big Navi announcement event. It won't show a lot, but it'll probably at least show it flexing it's gaming muscles.
AMD still wants to sell them CPUs, there is not a substantial amount of stock of last year's CPUs, and the manufacturing resources used to make last year's CPUs are exactly the same as the modern ones, so AMD will just make lower-end models of 5000 series.
Here's what optimized memory (and good cooling) can do on a 3950X:
Geekbench ST: 1700 MT: 14018
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Benchmark results for a System manufacturer System Product Name with an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X processor.browser.geekbench.com
I don't think it's overclocked as MT score would be much better then (this is below average).
It might me, but unless they've significantly changed the way PBO works, it should also have much higher MT scores (but these are equal to others or even lower)It shows it reaching over 5 GHz single core. Maybe PBO is on and works better now with Zen3?
Better to under promise and over deliver.It might me, but unless they've significantly changed the way PBO works, it should also have much higher MT scores (but these are equal to others or even lower)
IMO it's more likely it just boosts over spec (just as Renoir does as well as 3000 series XT chips). If that's the case AMDs confidence really surprises me. They possibly have a chip that does 5 Ghz about as reliably as 3950x did 4.7 (for very brief moments in some workloads) but they chose no to market it as a 5 Ghz chip (due to 3xxx series frequency backlash).
It might me, but unless they've significantly changed the way PBO works, it should also have much higher MT scores (but these are equal to others or even lower)
IMO it's more likely it just boosts over spec (just as Renoir does as well as 3000 series XT chips). If that's the case AMDs confidence really surprises me. They possibly have a chip that does 5 Ghz about as reliably as 3950x did 4.7 (for very brief moments in some workloads) but they chose no to market it as a 5 Ghz chip (due to 3xxx series frequency backlash).
its well documented on RenoirI didn't realize the XT and Renoir chips boosted over spec without PBO. Did any reviews document this?
Great find Hans!PassMark Results for the Ryzen 9 5950X
Single Threaded:
Ryzen 9 5950x: 3693 ---> 134%
Ryzen 9 3950x: 2747 ---> 100%
Multi Threaded
Ryzen 9 5950x: 45564 ---> 116%
Ryzen 9 3950x: 39279 ---> 100%
Yean, Zen 2 had an IPC advantage over Skylake refresh of about 6%, there is also a leaked bench where it shows that the 5600X is within 6%(short) of the 10900K and people were saying that it's Impossible, because the 10900K has a 40% core advantage. But it is very possible if we take into account the 26% IPC advantage + 8-10% SMT(when compared to Hyperthreading) and most likely was a Stock vs Stock comparisonGreat find Hans!
Looking at ST scores, 5950X @ 4.9Ghz Vs 10900K @ 5.3Ghz, it verifies that average IPC advantage Zen3 has over Skylake is ~26%.
its well documented on Renoir
While our Ryzen 7 3800XT showed around 50MHz higher boost behaviour than our 3900XT sample in our Cinebench 1T test run, we spoke to AMD and there should be no particular reason why the eight-core chip is pushing higher than the twelve core. Both CPUs have the same maximum frequency rating, so this could be related to individual processor variance (which was also highlighted as unlikely by AMD), operating temperatures, or the way in which each CPU interacts with our monitoring software.
Thanks to TUM_APISAK:
CPU-Z benchmark:
Single Threaded:
Ryzen 9 5800X: 650 ---> 125%
Ryzen 9 3800X: 519 ---> 100%
MultiThreaded:
Ryzen 9 5800X: 6593 ---> 116%
Ryzen 9 3800X: 5665 ---> 100%
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Of course: remember how the CPU-Z score was adapted when Ryzen came out:
BONUS via HXL from Chiphell: https://twitter.com/9550pro/status/1320949122728296449?s=20
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Single Threaded:
Ryzen 9 5950x: 690.2 ---> 132%
Ryzen 9 3950x: 524.0 ---> 100%
Multi Threaded
Ryzen 9 5950x: 13306.5 ---> 122%
Ryzen 9 3950x: 10867.0 ---> 100%