*** OFFICIAL *** Rose Bowl thread... Michigan vs USC

[vi edit]

The thing with sports is that there are NO ABSOLUTES. ANY team can win on any given day.

Look at Iowa. They beat Miami(OH) who was otherwise undefeated. They beat Michigan who were the Big 10 champs and went on to play in the number 2 BCS bowl. They beat Florida who in turn deafeated LSU who is contending for a national title.

So long as you have human players and human error, you will never have absolutes. Arguing otherwise is pointless.

EDIT - the only way you will EVER have a undisputed champion(and even that can be disputed depending on invites) is to have a playoff system like the NCAA basketball.

 

[prontospyder]

It would of been awesome to have the top 4 teams go at it in a playoff. 🙂

 

[NeoV]

vi, I agree with you on the playoff system......also, while USC looked very good today, anyone who says that LSU and/or Oklahoma would do just as well as Michigan did isn't being objective. The winner of the Sugar bowl is just as deserving of a national championship as USC is - both teams will have only suffered one loss, and since they can't play each other they split the crown - under the current system, its the best they can do....sure, its fun to speculate, but at least try to stay objective.

Bowl thoughts
- Iowa surprised me today, but Florida should be very good next year
- Auburn-WI game was the worst officiated game I've seen all year
- N.Illinois not being in a bowl game is a crime - they beat Maryland, Alabama and a big 12 team, only lost 2 games all year in an under-rated MAC conference...and were much more deserving of a bowl game than UCLA and a few other teams were...too bad money decides who goes where.....
- Does anyone care about the Miami-Fla St game tonight?
- Purdue/Georgia was a great finish
- Mack Brown is John Cooper all over again - great recruiter, poor big-game coach. No way Texas should lose to Wash St, not to mention the Oklahoma debacle.
- OSU - K.St should be a fun game to watch tomorrow, and the Sugar bowl should be a classic...I want LSU, but I think Oklahoma is going to win...

I'll have to change my sig now, the title has changed hands!

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

michigan is like a freighttrain.

they take a while to start up but once they get going, your not stopping them.

If you had given them 2 more quarters, maybe 😉

 

[blstriker]

Michigan got owned. USC kicked the crap out of them and would beat OU or LSU too. There is no doubt that USC is the #1 team in the country. If you're still on the fence, you gotta pull your head out...

Fight On!

🙂

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: IgorFL
Uh... no matter who wins the game, the USC band needs to give up their poor imitation of Florida A&M.

I'd much rather see the band then Jessica Simpson at a college football game.

 

[vi edit]

- N.Illinois not being in a bowl game is a crime - they beat Maryland, Alabama and a big 12 team, only lost 2 games all year in an under-rated MAC

I agree. N. Illinois deserved a bowl game SOOOOOOO much more than Northwestern or Michigan State (who did beat Iowa for the record).

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: NeoV

I'll have to change my sig now, the title has changed hands!

No, neither the BCS nor the AP nor the Coaches have named their national champions yet

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

- N.Illinois not being in a bowl game is a crime - they beat Maryland, Alabama and a big 12 team, only lost 2 games all year in an under-rated MAC

I agree. N. Illinois deserved a bowl game SOOOOOOO much more than Northwestern or Michigan State (who did beat Iowa for the record).

well sadly bowls are decided by Fans and Alumni and how much tickets they will sell more so than their record, more so since they are in smaller conference

 

[SuperCyrix]

USC deserves #1
That weak Pac-10 sh*t if bull. The pac-10 had to play more away out of conference games then anyone else.
And just because the Pac-10 teams are good at beating up each other doesn't mean they're weak.

A dominating performance by the pac-10 in the bowls proves that they are not as weak as people thought.

Keeping count, the #1 Big Ten team has now lost to both Pac-10 team they played all year.

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: NeoV

- Does anyone care about the Miami-Fla St game tonight?

I do!! This is a huge game.. and so far it has been quite close. Second meeting of the season, in-state rivals, two top ten teams.. how much better of a game do you want? Plus the winner will get a huge in state recruiting boost.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
The thing with sports is that there are NO ABSOLUTES. ANY team can win on any given day.

Look at Iowa. They beat Miami(OH) who was otherwise undefeated. They beat Michigan who were the Big 10 champs and went on to play in the number 2 BCS bowl. They beat Florida who in turn deafeated LSU who is contending for a national title.

So long as you have human players and human error, you will never have absolutes. Arguing otherwise is pointless.

EDIT - the only way you will EVER have a undisputed champion(and even that can be disputed depending on invites) is to have a playoff system like the NCAA basketball.

Hell yes.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
USC deserves #1
That weak Pac-10 sh*t if bull. The pac-10 had to play more away out of conference games then anyone else.
And just because the Pac-10 teams are good at beating up each other doesn't mean they're weak.

A dominating performance by the pac-10 in the bowls proves that they are not as weak as people thought.

Keeping count, the #1 Big Ten team has now lost to both Pac-10 team they played all year.

It's funny, but the only conference that is continually referenced as weak is the Pac-10. You never see anyone say the SEC or BIG 12 is weak. Whys that?

I seriously doubt USC would have dominated LSU or Oklahoma.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: SuperCyrix USC deserves #1 That weak Pac-10 sh*t if bull. The pac-10 had to play more away out of conference games then anyone else. And just because the Pac-10 teams are good at beating up each other doesn't mean they're weak. A dominating performance by the pac-10 in the bowls proves that they are not as weak as people thought. Keeping count, the #1 Big Ten team has now lost to both Pac-10 team they played all year.

It's funny, but the only conference that is continually referenced as weak is the Pac-10. You never see anyone say the SEC or BIG 12 is weak. Whys that? I seriously doubt USC would have dominated LSU or Oklahoma.

well the main reason for that is for students in SEC and Big 12 schools, football is everything, in Pac 10, California/USC, therez more things to do besides football, not to mention they graduate much more students than LSU or OU does , so thatz why you dont see ppl constantly taklign about football like in Big 10, or sec or big 12

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: SuperCyrix USC deserves #1 That weak Pac-10 sh*t if bull. The pac-10 had to play more away out of conference games then anyone else. And just because the Pac-10 teams are good at beating up each other doesn't mean they're weak. A dominating performance by the pac-10 in the bowls proves that they are not as weak as people thought. Keeping count, the #1 Big Ten team has now lost to both Pac-10 team they played all year.

It's funny, but the only conference that is continually referenced as weak is the Pac-10. You never see anyone say the SEC or BIG 12 is weak. Whys that? I seriously doubt USC would have dominated LSU or Oklahoma.

well the main reason for that is for students in SEC and Big 12 schools, football is everything, in Pac 10, California/USC, therez more things to do besides football, not to mention they graduate much more students than LSU or OU does , so thatz why you dont see ppl constantly taklign about football like in Big 10, or sec or big 12

There is no doubt that the UC system and USC have higher academic standards than most SEC or Big12 schools. However, the argument is about the Pac-10 being weak in football and they are.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: SuperCyrix USC deserves #1 That weak Pac-10 sh*t if bull. The pac-10 had to play more away out of conference games then anyone else. And just because the Pac-10 teams are good at beating up each other doesn't mean they're weak. A dominating performance by the pac-10 in the bowls proves that they are not as weak as people thought. Keeping count, the #1 Big Ten team has now lost to both Pac-10 team they played all year.

It's funny, but the only conference that is continually referenced as weak is the Pac-10. You never see anyone say the SEC or BIG 12 is weak. Whys that? I seriously doubt USC would have dominated LSU or Oklahoma.

well the main reason for that is for students in SEC and Big 12 schools, football is everything, in Pac 10, California/USC, therez more things to do besides football, not to mention they graduate much more students than LSU or OU does , so thatz why you dont see ppl constantly taklign about football like in Big 10, or sec or big 12

There is no doubt that the UC system and USC have higher academic standards than most SEC or Big12 schools. However, the argument is about the Pac-10 being weak in football and they are.

pac 10 put up a pretty good show during bowl games this year though

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: SuperCyrix USC deserves #1 That weak Pac-10 sh*t if bull. The pac-10 had to play more away out of conference games then anyone else. And just because the Pac-10 teams are good at beating up each other doesn't mean they're weak. A dominating performance by the pac-10 in the bowls proves that they are not as weak as people thought. Keeping count, the #1 Big Ten team has now lost to both Pac-10 team they played all year.

It's funny, but the only conference that is continually referenced as weak is the Pac-10. You never see anyone say the SEC or BIG 12 is weak. Whys that? I seriously doubt USC would have dominated LSU or Oklahoma.

well the main reason for that is for students in SEC and Big 12 schools, football is everything, in Pac 10, California/USC, therez more things to do besides football, not to mention they graduate much more students than LSU or OU does , so thatz why you dont see ppl constantly taklign about football like in Big 10, or sec or big 12

There is no doubt that the UC system and USC have higher academic standards than most SEC or Big12 schools. However, the argument is about the Pac-10 being weak in football and they are.

thatz not what i am saying

"It's funny, but the only conference that is continually referenced as weak is the Pac-10. "

the ppl who normally say this are fans from BIG 12, SEC, Big 10 schools coz football is much bigger in these schools and talked about more ( as u can see on this board too, no of fans from Big 10, Big 12, SEC schools is way more those from pac 10 schools)

 

[Zebo]

The final score did'nt begin to describe SC's dominance. And you saw the next Joe Montana today his accuracy, poise, positive attitude reminded me of a clone.

 

[EvilYoda]

just got back from a Rosebowl party, and man did we suck...it was so pathetic, we just started playing Mario Kart DD and Settlers by the 4th quarter.

 

[johnjbruin]

Even though I am a bruin fan, I gotta say it this time: "great job SC"

 

[Nitemare]

Wanted Michigan to win, but with USC winning at least it gives the BCS another black eye...that's like every single year they have been running the show except one.

 

[Balt]

I honestly can't believe that USC beat Michigan as handily as they did. Michigan obviously didn't prepare itself for USC's pass-heavy offense. Has Michigan ever heard of a free safety?

Yikes.


Anyway, credit to USC for giving Michigan a well-deserved stomping.

 

[Mani]

My thoughts on the game:

-First off, there was no doubt this was a home game for USC. I was at the game, and us Michigan fans occupied maybe a 1/4 of the bowl there - the rest was a sea of red.

-Michigan was flatfooted all day. Navarre was off ever since Edwards dropped the first long ball thrown to him, and the d-line did not help out the DBs as much as they should have. The ultimate lynchpin was the # of sacks. Going into the game, my greatest concern was USC's front 4 pressuring Navarre, and sure enough, they were what stopped our big drives.

-Michigan's coaching was not up to snuff. Not enough adjustments were made and we had the same problems the second half that we did in the first.

-All this said though, USC's defense is fantastic. Their front 4 may be the best in football and their pass coverage was excellent.

-USC's offense is even better. I don't think there's a defensive scheme that can contain Chow's offense combined with USC's incredible talent. Leinart is the best QB in football, and it's amazing that he's only a sophmore. He is unquestionably a future heisman winner.

-All in all, while Michigan did not play its best game, I do not think there's a team in the nation that can beat USC at this point.

 

[gistech1978]

in another thread i said that michigan would beat USC.
i also said i would eat crow if i was wrong.

/me eats a big heaping helping of crow pie.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: gistech1978
in another thread i said that michigan would beat USC.
i also said i would eat crow if i was wrong.

/me eats a big heaping helping of crow pie.

I'm still trying to remove my foot from my mouth.