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If they only spent more time making great games than trying to grab more cash from gamers...Ugh freaking Activision finding new ways to ruin gaming.
If they only spent more time making great games than trying to grab more cash from gamers...Ugh freaking Activision finding new ways to ruin gaming.
Had to know the Ubisoftization of Sony was coming once they lost COD to Microsoft, which threw out their whole strategy of making great single player loss leaders to get you to buy into the platform so you bought yearly releases like COD on Playstation also. Ugh freaking Activision finding new ways to ruin gaming.
It's coz games have become a sort of industrialized product where you can just put as many workers as your budget allows to churn out said product as quickly as possible and you don't even have to ensure that it delivers what was promised coz you can fix it in incremental updates for the next 6 months to a year all the while selling said product with even more promises and laughing all the way to the bank.
I think you need to reread the comment chain. You said this remake tells you ND isn't making anything. I called that asinine. You then complained about companies milking games and implied I like it, which is completely irrelevant.Sure it does. If their big announcement is remaking a 9 year old game and adding online stuff using the game name and game world then they have nothing else to announce hence it’s obvious to me they are not actively working on anything worth mentioning. If they were, they would have some type of other announcement for hype purposes.
I think you need to reread the comment chain. You said this remake tells you ND isn't making anything. I called that asinine. You then complained about companies milking games and implied I like it, which is completely irrelevant.
Doing a remake allows them to keep people employed that otherwise wouldn't. It also doesn't stop them from working on their next big thing, whatever that may be. Saying otherwise is and will continue to be asinine.
Starfield was announced because Todd Howard was desperate to get rid of the Fallout 76 stink. We didn't get a Fallout 4 announcement until the same year it was released. Announcing nothing says nothing.If your announcement is a remake and more stuff reusing a 9 year old property then you aren’t announcing anything new right? If they had something to announce they would right? So what this says is they aren’t really developing anything because by now they would have something to show us on ps5 without it being a remake. I mean we knew about Starfield years ago and are just now getting looks at some gameplay. They should at least tell us they are working on something.
I don’t know what you’re reading into it.
Starfield was announced because Todd Howard was desperate to get rid of the Fallout 76 stink. We didn't get a Fallout 4 announcement until the same year it was released. Announcing nothing says nothing.
Yes, they announced Fallout 76, a multiplayer game, which they knew wasn't going to go over well, since they're known for single player classics. "We better give them news of a single player game, let them know about the next one"Starfield was announced at E3 2018 right after they announced 76.
Yes, they announced Fallout 76, a multiplayer game, which they knew wasn't going to go over well, since they're known for single player classics. "We better give them news of a single player game, let them know about the next one"
I don't think ND is out of ideas, but just MAYBE they are leaning a bit too heavy on Last of Us. Probably just trying to keep hype up for the HBO series. They are kind of at an interesting crossroads though. They essentially have finished both of the main series they made. Where do they go from here? IMO, always better to try something new then to keep rehashing the same old stuff.
Uh, what are you on about? I honestly have no idea how to interpret this.Uh, OK. So we are just making up stuff now? Fine, Naughty Dog didn't announce anything because they are out of ideas.
Todd Howard very obviously announced Starfield to stem the potential backlash of Fallout 76. Their big announcement was a multiplayer, microtransaction-filled game in a beloved singleplayer franchise. He had no reason to announce Starfield (with nothing more than a title, by the way), other than because he was worried about the backlash. It was obvious in the moment, and even more so with 20/20 hindsight.It is pretty standard for companies to announce projects that are many years away at big shows like E3. They don't do it because they think another game they announced is garbage. They mainly do it to attract talent that wants to work on that stuff (and build some hype with fans).
It's definitely intentionally placed near the HBO series. I bet there's even a specific marketing term for it.I don't think ND is out of ideas, but just MAYBE they are leaning a bit too heavy on Last of Us. Probably just trying to keep hype up for the HBO series. They are kind of at an interesting crossroads though. They essentially have finished both of the main series they made. Where do they go from here? IMO, always better to try something new then to keep rehashing the same old stuff.
Todd Howard very obviously announced Starfield to stem the potential backlash of Fallout 76. Their big announcement was a multiplayer, microtransaction-filled game in a beloved singleplayer franchise. He had no reason to announce Starfield (with nothing more than a title, by the way), other than because he was worried about the backlash. It was obvious in the moment, and even more so with 20/20 hindsight.
Need I remind you of, just 6 months prior, Bethesda's ad about saving singleplayer?This is all conjecture. Cmdrdredd saying ND isn't making anything is just as valid if we go by this reasoning.
Uh, OK. So we are just making up stuff now? Fine, Naughty Dog didn't announce anything because they are out of ideas.
It is pretty standard for companies to announce projects that are many years away at big shows like E3. They don't do it because they think another game they announced is garbage. They mainly do it to attract talent that wants to work on that stuff (and build some hype with fans).
I don't think ND is out of ideas, but just MAYBE they are leaning a bit too heavy on Last of Us. Probably just trying to keep hype up for the HBO series. They are kind of at an interesting crossroads though. They essentially have finished both of the main series they made. Where do they go from here? IMO, always better to try something new then to keep rehashing the same old stuff.
Last I checked, Naughty Dog is in the business of making money and are known for having some of the best games in the industry.
They won't make money by not working on anything that haven't told us about.
I mean this has been happening for decades I don't understand why this is surprising to people that there are a lot of unknown projects being worked on all the time.
Capcom announced SF6 a few weeks ago. They have been working it since 2018 per their own words but no one knew about it until a couple weeks ago and it's coming out next year probably in Q1 - So less than a year out from it's announcement. This isn't anything new.
I disagree. They might have started with innocently fun action games (Crash Bandicoot), they've been slowly making their way over to narrative-driven games that use action as a means of progressing the story. Jak and Daxter is mostly an action game working off of a basic storyline, the Uncharted series cranks that up a notch, and TLOU is arguably mostly a story-driven game wrapped up in a horror-action wrapper. If I didn't care for the characters in the Uncharted or TLOU series, I'd have a lot less interest in playing those games. Additionally, even if ND games aren't a person's cup of tea, it's not hard to admire the level of polish they put into their games.That’s debatable. Their games are largely just set piece action games. That doesn’t go over well with everyone. I’ll admit I’m tired of that much like certain open world style games with the Assassin’s Creed style points on a map and unlocking the map by climbing a tower. Even Horizon leaned heavily on this idea and it’s getting stale.
I just hope there can be something new brought to the table.
I disagree. They might have started with innocently fun action games (Crash Bandicoot), they've been slowly making their way over to narrative-driven games that use action as a means of progressing the story. Jak and Daxter is mostly an action game working off of a basic storyline, the Uncharted series cranks that up a notch, and TLOU is arguably mostly a story-driven game wrapped up in a horror-action wrapper. If I didn't care for the characters in the Uncharted or TLOU series, I'd have a lot less interest in playing those games. Additionally, even if ND games aren't a person's cup of tea, it's not hard to admire the level of polish they put into their games.
No, I understand what a set piece action game is, but using Uncharted as an example of ND largely making set piece action games is a little unfair considering the whole game is an action movie that you get to interact with.I dont think you understand what a set piece action game is. Uncharted is the best example. Think the section where you are falling from the plane with the cargo attached and you are fighting guys on top of it all. The story derves as a means to get you to those setpieces for the avtion sequence.
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It's already been delayed a year.if this was a decision to rush it out because of lack of competition.