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purbeast0

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If anyone is looking for a PS5, a of 5:48PM CST on August 23, 2022 Playstation Direct has both the disc console and the disc console + Horizon Forbidden West bundle in stock at MSRP.

HFW bundle still in stock.


Maybe this is a sign that these will be readily available in the not too distant future.
 

purbeast0

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You know what to expect if you have played previous Quantic Dream games.
I have no idea who Quantic Dream games is but I do like the whole underwater scuba atmosphere depicted in the trailer. However I have no clue what kind of game it is. Is it liker Abzu? Is it like Subnautica? Is it something totally different? I loved Abzu but I got bored of Subnautica very quickly.

That is why I hate trailer like that. No idea what kind of game it is. It's a very common trend too.
 

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I have no idea who Quantic Dream games is but I do like the whole underwater scuba atmosphere depicted in the trailer. However I have no clue what kind of game it is. Is it liker Abzu? Is it like Subnautica? Is it something totally different? I loved Abzu but I got bored of Subnautica very quickly.

That is why I hate trailer like that. No idea what kind of game it is. It's a very common trend too.

It's David Cage's studio. The guys that did Beyond Two Souls, Heavy Rain, Detroit Become Human, etc.
 

purbeast0

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It's David Cage's studio. The guys that did Beyond Two Souls, Heavy Rain, Detroit Become Human, etc.
No clue who David Cage is, but if it's a style like those games, then I'm out.

Which is why I hate trailers like that lol. No clue wtf the game play will be like.
 
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Aikouka

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Which is why I hate trailers like that lol. No clue wtf the game play will be like.

I absolutely agree with you there. It reminds me of the stereotypical Japanese game trailer where you see a bunch of random cuts of in-game rendered or CG scenes, but very little gameplay. So, you usually have no idea what the game actually is... unless it's part of a known franchise. (Albeit, that doesn't usually help newcomers to said franchise!)
 

purbeast0

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I absolutely agree with you there. It reminds me of the stereotypical Japanese game trailer where you see a bunch of random cuts of in-game rendered or CG scenes, but very little gameplay. So, you usually have no idea what the game actually is... unless it's part of a known franchise. (Albeit, that doesn't usually help newcomers to said franchise!)
Even for franchises I like they do nothing for me.

Any kind of CGI trailer for games like Uncharted, God of War, The Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank, etc.

I couldn't care less about those things.
 
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Those type of games may not be for everyone, the story driven movie types like the Quarry or Until Dawn, but Detroit Become Human was really good.
 
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Sony's answer to the Xbox Elite controller?
 

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Sony's answer to the Xbox Elite controller?

My biggest issue with a lot of these are that -- if I understand correctly -- they don't provide extra independent buttons. It's hard to find a good wording for it, but I mean that they're physically new buttons but they have to be mapped to an existing function. I ran into an issue when I went to play Overwatch with someone on PS4 where all of my buttons were in use, but I wanted to map push-to-talk to something. In that situation, I could've really used a new button that was independently mappable for that specific function.
 
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Sony's answer to the Xbox Elite controller?

So ~$200 for a controller that won't have hall effect sticks, thus effectively having planned obsolescence via stick drift?
 

sze5003

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Is the battery better in this newer controller? Both of mine deplete pretty quickly and i get to play playstation maybe once or twice a weekend now that I have a puppy trying to bark at the tv if I try to play Stray lol.
 
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Sony's answer to the Xbox Elite controller?
I love my Elite 2 Controller. I wish sony made something similar.
 

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RE: PS5 price hike

Ah, not too surprising, I suppose. I mean, given the past couple of years where demand has far outstripped supply (irrespective of the effect of scalpers), if I were a Sony Corp shareholder, I'd want a price increase until the market reaches supply vs demand equilibrium. Frankly, if I had been running Sony, I wouldn't have waited this long to hike prices.

Again, not too surprising they're reticent to hike prices in the US. This time around, Microsoft has actually upped their game and showed up to compete vigorously. LOL...I suspect, if Sony increases prices here in the States, this generation of XBox may potentially eat their lunch here, unlike the last time when Microsoft was just a doormat.

Competition is great, of course. Thankfully, Sony doesn't have a monopoly here.
 

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RE: PS5 price hike

Ah, not too surprising, I suppose. I mean, given the past couple of years where demand has far outstripped supply (irrespective of the effect of scalpers), if I were a Sony Corp shareholder, I'd want a price increase until the market reaches supply vs demand equilibrium. Frankly, if I had been running Sony, I wouldn't have waited this long to hike prices.

Again, not too surprising they're reticent to hike prices in the US. This time around, Microsoft has actually upped their game and showed up to compete vigorously. LOL...I suspect, if Sony increases prices here in the States, this generation of XBox may potentially eat their lunch here, unlike the last time when Microsoft was just a doormat.

Competition is great, of course. Thankfully, Sony doesn't have a monopoly here.

Meh what Microsoft has done feels more anticompetitive to me, buying up established developers to lock a lot of major franchises into the XBox platform. The Activision buyout especially sucks because it kills Sony's ability to treat the console and their great big budget first party titles as loss leaders to get people onto the platform so they buy yearly releases like COD on that system. Sony's response to the sale was to start investing in a lot of live service crap. Gross.
 

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Meh what Microsoft has done feels more anticompetitive to me, buying up established developers to lock a lot of major franchises into the XBox platform.

In my estimation, I view this simply as Microsoft competing with not only Sony here but Nintendo and other game manufactures including the PC platform. At least here in the States, we have at least three large console makers? This makes for a relatively robust competitive market, all things considered. I merely see Microsoft's growth via acquisitions to bolster a platform that will 1) better compete against Sony, and 2) something that will be accretive to earnings per share. Let's see if the DOJ has any objections, but, in my view, it's hard to argue that *any* game maker would reach any kind of monopoly status here in the States, these acquisitions notwithstanding.

The Activision buyout especially sucks because it kills Sony's ability to treat the console and their great big budget first party titles as loss leaders to get people onto the platform so they buy yearly releases like COD on that system. Sony's response to the sale was to start investing in a lot of live service crap. Gross.

I'm not entirely without sympathy to Sony gamers (if we use the "fanboy" term loosely, I can be considered one), but my first degree of zealous fanboyism is to myself--the individual consumer. Towards that end, I just try to make whatever decisions that's best for me, and sort of relegate the macro stuff & overall scheme of things to background noise.

More simply, XBox's acquisitions have driven me, as a consumer, to recently subscribe to Game Pass Ultimate for 3 years--the XBox Gold conversion via trial is a no brainer. For any XBox Game Pass subscriber, these acquisitions offer a compelling value proposition. Why wouldn't I, as an avid gamer, look forward to playing Bethesda's, Activision's and their other portfolio of games on day one?

I'm from the school of thought that natural monopolies are incredibly difficult to maintain, and, at least in this case, these acquisitions serve to enhance both the experience and value proposition of the end user consumer. I mean, though not a hater per se, I've never been a fan of Microsoft and have always found their stuff kind of underwhelming. I've been a Sony PS guy my entire life, and I signed up for XBox for 3 years. As a consumer, I just go to where the value proposition is best for me, which at moment is XBox Game Pass.

Again, not suggesting what anyone else should or shouldn't do, but, at least here in the good ole USA, there's nothing stoping anyone from subscribing to Game Pass.
 
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I mean, though not a hater per se, I've never been a fan of Microsoft and have always found their stuff kind of underwhelming. I've been a Sony PS guy my entire life, and I signed up for XBox for 3 years.
I don't like Microsoft's storage expansion option. Sony wins in that regard. Being able to use off the shelf NVMe SSD is so much better than Microsoft's "solution" to ever increasing game sizes. Plus, Sony reduces game sizes with their special compression sauce. I've both PS4 Pro and Xbox One X but this issue makes me NOT want to get an Xbox Series X.
 

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In my estimation, I view this simply as Microsoft competing with not only Sony here but Nintendo and other game manufactures including the PC platform. At least here in the States, we have at least three large console makers? This makes for a relatively robust competitive market, all things considered. I merely see Microsoft's growth via acquisitions to bolster a platform that will 1) better compete against Sony, and 2) something that will be accretive to earnings per share. Let's see if the DOJ has any objections, but, in my view, it's hard to argue that *any* game maker would reach any kind of monopoly status here in the States, these acquisitions notwithstanding.

I can't compare Microsoft to Nintendo and Sony because the exclusives from the latter two come mostly from homegrown talent, developers they have been pouring money into for years to develop games on their platforms. They're not taking anything away from other gamers because these are franchises that wouldn't have existed without Sony and Nintendo. Whereas Microsoft just feels like the rich pricks throwing money around to make up for a lack of talent. Largely thanks to Don Mattrick screwing the XBox brand up thinking he could chase the Wii using casuals and deciding to abandon his core demographic.

I'm from the school of thought that natural monopolies are incredibly difficult to maintain, and, at least in this case, these acquisitions serve to enhance both the experience and value proposition of the end user consumer. I mean, though not a hater per se, I've never been a fan of Microsoft and have always found their stuff kind of underwhelming. I've been a Sony PS guy my entire life, and I signed up for XBox for 3 years. As a consumer, I just go to where the value proposition is best for me, which at moment is XBox Game Pass.

I mean I'll do the same because I don't have any control over the situation, but it saddens me that the logical course of action now is for Sony to start making their exclusives more Ubisoft like, with microtransactions and as live service games since that's how they'll maximize revenue since they can't make fat stacks taking a cut of yearly COD sales. Which is what their strategy was in the PS4 gen, and led to some really incredible single player games. I value the great single player exclusives like Sony made last gen, even at full price, way more than being able to get Bethesda games on Day 1 through a cheap subscription. So for my gaming tastes it's a major step down if it plays out this way.

Especially since Bethesda really hasn't developed anything amazing since Skyrim in 2011. Fallout 4 while good, was IMO a major drop in quality from Fallout 3. Fallout 76 was complete trash. And no Elder Scrolls game in 11 years. Feels like Bethesda has become a shadow of what they were two console generations ago, though I wouldn't have liked the tradeoff if we were getting prime Bethesda either.

Felt like the Sony loss leader strategy was the last bastion of hope against everything turning live service and heavily monetized.
 
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Felt like the Sony loss leader strategy was the last bastion of hope against everything turning live service and heavily monetized.

Sorry, but the industry has changed. The only thing that makes money these days are live service and mobile (especially mobile, CoD Mobile made $1B last year). Cheer up, they still have the sport gamers to sponge off of.